Hentai and Pedophilia
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Hentai and Pedophilia
Is it logical for the same people who loathe pedophilia in all its forms to be attracted to animated representations of, erm, decidely "youthful" figures?
I assume this has something to do with the Japanese age of consent being 12 or some crazy thing hence. I'm wondering if I'm being hypocritical and damnable or if I have a point here. Anyone care to discuss this?
I assume this has something to do with the Japanese age of consent being 12 or some crazy thing hence. I'm wondering if I'm being hypocritical and damnable or if I have a point here. Anyone care to discuss this?
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Trust me, women's groups in japan have been complaining about this for <years>. There being large amounts of highly accessible porn in Japan, a lot of it really dirty hentai with tentacle demon snuff rape. Myself, I look at those and shake my head for a long moment. Bondage, yes that's fun to watch. It's even fun to watch the really dysfunctional screaming fits of orgasms that you see in most Japanese porn.
But at some point even a craven grown adolescent like me has to draw the line. Usually anything _outside_ of the standard age, standard male-female or female-female tends to make me retch. People who can't get enjoyment from that to me not only are sick in my eyes, they lack creativity.
Oh, and on a side note, mister Ultra-Violence... something you really ought to watch. A bit of a horror-slasher anime, entitled Kite. Kind of the opposing theme of A Clockwork Orange, but still along the lines of beleivable human vileness.
But at some point even a craven grown adolescent like me has to draw the line. Usually anything _outside_ of the standard age, standard male-female or female-female tends to make me retch. People who can't get enjoyment from that to me not only are sick in my eyes, they lack creativity.
Oh, and on a side note, mister Ultra-Violence... something you really ought to watch. A bit of a horror-slasher anime, entitled Kite. Kind of the opposing theme of A Clockwork Orange, but still along the lines of beleivable human vileness.
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Re: Hentai and Pedophilia
The age of consent is 18 years old over there, please do some research before posting out of date information.Bob McDob wrote:I assume this has something to do with the Japanese age of consent being 12 or some crazy thing hence.
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I thought it was 13.The age of consent is 18 years old over there, please do some research before posting out of date information.
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It's the same sort of perverts with a fancy for young girls and or sick shit. It lets them get their rocks off without actually getting them into legal trouble.Darth Utsanomiko wrote:Well, don't look at me; I avoid that stuff. It sells like hotcakes in the US, even when compared to most hentai that gets easilly brought over here, strangely.

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To cite an example http://www.megatokyo.com =)Rubberanvil wrote:You just perfectly described(sp) 90% of heterosexual male otakus.Stormbringer wrote:It's the same sort of perverts with a fancy for young girls and or sick shit. It lets them get their rocks off without actually getting them into legal trouble.
The reason I like Hentai is because I find some of it more, erm, "romantic" than normal porn. There's some crazy, crazy stuff, but most of it is easily distinguishable. Mainstream porno has scarred me for life, unfortunately.
I once saw a scene that looked perfect, and then the guy said "Oh yes. Yes." in what was presumably an orgasm but sounded like a bored monotone. That's one of many times porn has made me break out laughing. I avoid most of it.
I once saw a scene that looked perfect, and then the guy said "Oh yes. Yes." in what was presumably an orgasm but sounded like a bored monotone. That's one of many times porn has made me break out laughing. I avoid most of it.
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It is a product with extremely poor quality control, too much product proliferation, and not enough critical review. It would be a lot simpler if the industry consolidated into a few major players with distinctive styles so you don't have to sift through mountains of shit in order to find a decent porno.Bob McDob wrote:The reason I like Hentai is because I find some of it more, erm, "romantic" than normal porn. There's some crazy, crazy stuff, but most of it is easily distinguishable. Mainstream porno has scarred me for life, unfortunately.

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Good point; in the pictures I've seen, they're dressed like schoolgirls but they have the "development" of women. Let's face it; young teenaged girls just aren't sexy. The more voluptuous build of a fully matured woman is much, much sexier.The Yosemite Bear wrote:I would like to know how it is that they are allegedly that young, and still have the secondary sex characteristics of a much older person?
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Age in anime and by extension hentai is a strange thing. Character can be 15 and look twenty. Or be 35 and look like they shouldn't even be in high school.The Yosemite Bear wrote:I would like to know how it is that they are allegedly that young, and still have the secondary sex characteristics of a much older person?

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Counting only original hentai anime you're correct for the 12 years old and under people.Darth Utsanomiko wrote:So which exact titles are we talking about here, anyway? Maybe I just do a good job of avoiding the stuff to not see them or hear about them, but I was under the impression that hentai with girls under 18 were rare, at least out of anime as a whole.
Know anyone know what the the phile term for 14-17 old years, as pedophilia is for pre-adolescent children 0-13 yrs olds.
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I'd imagine that the line can get pretty fuzzy with the strange way anime characters how age. Some can be 12 and look 20. Others could be 20 and look 12.Darth Utsanomiko wrote:So which exact titles are we talking about here, anyway? Maybe I just do a good job of avoiding the stuff to not see them or hear about them, but I was under the impression that hentai with girls under 18 were rare, at least out of anime as a whole.

I agree. In my opinion, a girl doesn't start becoming "sexy" until around 16 (give or take a year... nowadays girls can start maturing at REALLY young ages, frighteningly enough), and even then it's a few years until they reach real physical maturity.Let's face it; young teenaged girls just aren't sexy. The more voluptuous build of a fully matured woman is much, much sexier.
'Course, I know a fair share of ladies that are in their '40s and still EXTREMELY sexy.
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All I know is there is such a term... I bet a NAMBLA website would mention it somewhere. If it actually meant that much to you.Rubberanvil wrote:Counting only original hentai anime you're correct for the 12 years old and under people.Darth Utsanomiko wrote:So which exact titles are we talking about here, anyway? Maybe I just do a good job of avoiding the stuff to not see them or hear about them, but I was under the impression that hentai with girls under 18 were rare, at least out of anime as a whole.
Know anyone know what the the phile term for 14-17 old years, as pedophilia is for pre-adolescent children 0-13 yrs olds.
As you posted most ANIMATED hentai features women of moderate age, but fan produced doujinshi has some really young girls sometimes, like...well, no graphic examples, but Card Captor Sakura, Misty (from Pokemon), that young sailor scout, Princess Sammy from Tenchi Muyo, etc.
Again from Tenchi we have Washuu Chan, the science goddess who's 5,000 or something and looks...yea, 12. (though she does it on purpose...) There's something about the stylization of some anime characters that makes them look really young in any case.Stormbringer wrote:I'd imagine that the line can get pretty fuzzy with the strange way anime characters how age. Some can be 12 and look 20. Others could be 20 and look 12.Darth Utsanomiko wrote:So which exact titles are we talking about here, anyway? Maybe I just do a good job of avoiding the stuff to not see them or hear about them, but I was under the impression that hentai with girls under 18 were rare, at least out of anime as a whole.
Sriad wrote:As you posted most ANIMATED hentai features women of moderate age, but fan produced doujinshi has some really young girls sometimes, like...well, no graphic examples, but Card Captor Sakura, Misty (from Pokemon), that young sailor scout, Princess Sammy from Tenchi Muyo, etc.

Sakura? Misty? Chibi-Usa? Sasami???
WTF?
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One of the contacts I have in another forum keeps around Card Captor Sakura snuff porn in his directory, of all things. And I seriously doubt that's the worst of it.Sriad wrote:As you posted most ANIMATED hentai features women of moderate age, but fan produced doujinshi has some really young girls sometimes, like...well, no graphic examples, but Card Captor Sakura, Misty (from Pokemon), that young sailor scout, Princess Sammy from Tenchi Muyo, etc.
Needless to say, I always have to be extremely careful to guess the content of what he's trying to post before I look at it.
Right, but the Supreme Court seems to be on their side (though I bet the Court doesn't know it). I guess it's an artifact of never getting lucky when they thought they should have in the sixth grade. Or more likely it's just typical power issues.phongn wrote:Sriad wrote:As you posted most ANIMATED hentai features women of moderate age, but fan produced doujinshi has some really young girls sometimes, like...well, no graphic examples, but Card Captor Sakura, Misty (from Pokemon), that young sailor scout, Princess Sammy from Tenchi Muyo, etc.![]()
Sakura? Misty? Chibi-Usa? Sasami???
WTF?