THE OotS Thread, Part IV.

[Irbis]

Not sure how much a chaotic weapon is gonna be of use. Rather, the chaos enchantment itself.

The only villain I can think it working on is Redcloak (and going into melee range of Cleric that powerful isn't a good idea). It would be doubly useless on Xykon. Ironically, it would be excellent weapon against only ally OotS have, Sapphire Paladins.

[Imperial Overlord]

The chaos saber would be effective against the goblins and hobgoblins (some of which had a lot of character levels) and Team Tarquin as well.

[Irbis]

The chaos saber would be effective against the goblins and hobgoblins (some of which had a lot of character levels) and Team Tarquin as well.

Wouldn't it be much less effective on anyone Chaotic Evil/Neutral? Which to be honest I'd expect to be majority of the above groups.

[Ralin]

Assuming "Chaos Saber" means the Anarchic enchantment it deals an extra 2d6 damage to lawful enemies and bypasses DR/lawful.

But off the top of my head I don't think there is a "Chaos" enchantment, so odds are pretty good that it has whatever the hell powers Burlew thought would be appropriate for a high-level Chaotic Good swashbuckler like Julio.

[Simon_Jester]

Link to the new comic.

Not sure how much a chaotic weapon is gonna be of use. Rather, the chaos enchantment itself.

It beats using your bare hands.

[Napoleon the Clown]

I used "chaos enchantment" because it's shorter than saying anarchic enchantment.

Anyway. Yeah, it beats the hell out of bare hands. But from a narrative standpoint, why a Chaos Saber? Though I guess there is a possibility it's a houseruled enchantment that does something interesting.

[Imperial Overlord]

The chaos saber would be effective against the goblins and hobgoblins (some of which had a lot of character levels) and Team Tarquin as well.

Wouldn't it be much less effective on anyone Chaotic Evil/Neutral? Which to be honest I'd expect to be majority of the above groups.

They're lawful evil. Hobgoblins are wonderfully fascist.

[Irbis]

It beats using your bare hands.

It doesn't beat weapon with straight +2 bonus instead on everyone non-lawful. Elan already has +3 keen rapier, this chaos sabre would need to be epic level weapon to be better.

They're lawful evil. Hobgoblins are wonderfully fascist.

But Xykon very specifically didn't take any of them on a trip?

[Simon_Jester]

Didn't Elan's rapier get broken in the fight with Tarquin?

[Crazedwraith]

It did. So any sword is better than no sword. Definitely looks more deadly and solid than a rapier if nothing else.

Is a Chaos Saber a real D&D item then? I couldn't find anything about it by googling.

[Imperial Overlord]

Sabers are in D&D and "chaos" was what they called anarchic weapons in the earlier parts of 3.0. I wouldn't sweat it.

[PainRack]

Errr...... I don't get it. why leave now?

[FaxModem1]

Better to retire in comfort after doing something legendary than tempting fate twice and being killed by the Order's main villain to show how high the stakes are.

[Imperial Overlord]

Errr...... I don't get it. why leave now?

The same reason he didn't want to see Elan again: to avoid being killed to supply Elan with motivation to kill the big bad.

[Simon_Jester]

Sabers are in D&D and "chaos" was what they called anarchic weapons in the earlier parts of 3.0. I wouldn't sweat it.

Yeah. Holdover name; Julio's old enough that he's surely had all his equipment since 3.0, probably since 1st or 2nd edition except for any sweet loot he picked up once 3rd edition made it possible.

[PainRack]

Better to retire in comfort after doing something legendary than tempting fate twice and being killed by the Order's main villain to show how high the stakes are.

Maybe this is something from Asian wuxia flicks, but an isolated 'master' leaving the party opens himself up to being ambushed and attacked by the villians, so as to draw the hero to rescue the master.

[Ralin]

Maybe this is something from Asian wuxia flicks, but an isolated 'master' leaving the party opens himself up to being ambushed and attacked by the villians, so as to draw the hero to rescue the master.

Doubt it. Off the top of my head the only villain in a position to do something like that at the moment would be Sabine, and she can't be anywhere near Julio's weight class.

[Grumman]

Doubt it. Off the top of my head the only villain in a position to do something like that at the moment would be Sabine, and she can't be anywhere near Julio's weight class.

Those who could don't want to, and those who want to can't. Xykon wouldn't bother. Sabine could by guile, but wouldn't because Tarquin's the one she wants dead. And Tarquin would want to, but has wanted to for decades and hasn't succeeded to date.

[Napoleon the Clown]

It would be dramatically appropriate (in Tarquin's eyes) to pull it off this time, though. Given the way things went for him, I don't think the narrative would allow that to happen for him.

[Lord of the Abyss]

#944 up!
Spoiler

So, V successfully came clean about everything. Now to see how the Fiends work around that...

[Crazedwraith]

Oh wow.
Spoiler

Roy's rarely referenced younger brother comes to play. This really was some good writing and I think it's rare we see Roy and V interact quite like this. I enjoyed it. Even with the slightly forced joke panel at the end.

[Irbis]

Spoiler

Good?

He spent like 200 strips on Tarquin dragging himself on the plot, then can't spare 1 strip on reveal so it's done off screen. With lame justification, too - when Belkar changed his ways after "talk" with Shojo, Roy shrugs, says he lied, and is glad Belkar dies soon (no attempts at 'wanting to make it right' whatsoever). When he learns V killed more people than B. ever did (in a way that should touch him personally) all he cares about are immediate tactical changes. Plus, a bit of Durkon mixed in - but even on this Belkar was right, he should have killed the vampire and resurrected him later, not keep Durkula around as if he was still Durkon if he really wanted to set it right.

I don't know, last 5 strips just feels like Roy making worse and worse decisions that undermine his chances at success, all in the name of making the party superficially stay the same.

[Sharp-kun]

Cut him a bit of slack. Its been a long day in which he's lost a friend, been trapped in an illusion, almost blown up, fought an army, and would have died had Elan not had a plan that saved the day. Then he finds out that one of the party who he had least concerns about has actually committed a worse act than anyone else.

Its a lot to take in so I wouldn't blame him for not reacting as best he could. Comparisons with Belkar aren't really fair since Belkar has been an evil bastard the entire time he's been with Roy. Roy and V have always had some level of trust and Roy never saw what V got up to (killing Kabuta etc) while he was dead to tarnish that relationship.

I'm curious if Roy or V will tell the rest of the order about this.

[Irbis]

Comparisons with Belkar aren't really fair since Belkar has been an evil bastard the entire time he's been with Roy. Roy and V have always had some level of trust and Roy never saw what V got up to (killing Kabuta etc) while he was dead to tarnish that relationship.

Wasn't he observing V from above, like in comic I linked? Was my impression at least.

I don't know, Belkar is petty little bastard, but that's precisely the word - petty. He doesn't kill innocent kids with gross magic misuse, something Roy easily glosses over despite it being his supposed defining event.

[Sharp-kun]

IIRC Roy was over in Azure City when the fleet stuff was happening.