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Is it logical for the same people who loathe pedophilia in all its forms to be attracted to animated representations of, erm, decidely "youthful" figures?

I assume this has something to do with the Japanese age of consent being 12 or some crazy thing hence. I'm wondering if I'm being hypocritical and damnable or if I have a point here. Anyone care to discuss this?
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One is real, the other is not. To punish people for animated porn is like punishing people for virtual killing.
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Trust me, women's groups in japan have been complaining about this for <years>. There being large amounts of highly accessible porn in Japan, a lot of it really dirty hentai with tentacle demon snuff rape. Myself, I look at those and shake my head for a long moment. Bondage, yes that's fun to watch. It's even fun to watch the really dysfunctional screaming fits of orgasms that you see in most Japanese porn.

But at some point even a craven grown adolescent like me has to draw the line. Usually anything _outside_ of the standard age, standard male-female or female-female tends to make me retch. People who can't get enjoyment from that to me not only are sick in my eyes, they lack creativity.

Oh, and on a side note, mister Ultra-Violence... something you really ought to watch. A bit of a horror-slasher anime, entitled Kite. Kind of the opposing theme of A Clockwork Orange, but still along the lines of beleivable human vileness.
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Bob McDob wrote:I assume this has something to do with the Japanese age of consent being 12 or some crazy thing hence.
The age of consent is 18 years old over there, please do some research before posting out of date information.
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The age of consent is 18 years old over there, please do some research before posting out of date information.
I thought it was 13.
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HemlockGrey wrote:
The age of consent is 18 years old over there, please do some research before posting out of date information.
I thought it was 13.
I think it varys by area. As low as thirteen in some areas I think. My info may be outdated.
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I assume this has something to do with the Japanese age of consent being 12 or some crazy thing hence. I'm wondering if I'm being hypocritical and damnable or if I have a point here. Anyone care to discuss this?
Japan has some seriously fucked up view of sexuality. That's really all there is to it.
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Well, don't look at me; I avoid that stuff. It sells like hotcakes in the US, even when compared to most hentai that gets easilly brought over here, strangely.
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Darth Utsanomiko wrote:Well, don't look at me; I avoid that stuff. It sells like hotcakes in the US, even when compared to most hentai that gets easilly brought over here, strangely.
It's the same sort of perverts with a fancy for young girls and or sick shit. It lets them get their rocks off without actually getting them into legal trouble.
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Stormbringer wrote:It's the same sort of perverts with a fancy for young girls and or sick shit. It lets them get their rocks off without actually getting them into legal trouble.
You just perfectly described(sp) 90% of heterosexual male otakus.
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Rubberanvil wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:It's the same sort of perverts with a fancy for young girls and or sick shit. It lets them get their rocks off without actually getting them into legal trouble.
You just perfectly described(sp) 90% of heterosexual male otakus.
To cite an example http://www.megatokyo.com =)
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The reason I like Hentai is because I find some of it more, erm, "romantic" than normal porn. There's some crazy, crazy stuff, but most of it is easily distinguishable. Mainstream porno has scarred me for life, unfortunately.

I once saw a scene that looked perfect, and then the guy said "Oh yes. Yes." in what was presumably an orgasm but sounded like a bored monotone. That's one of many times porn has made me break out laughing. I avoid most of it.
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Bob McDob wrote:The reason I like Hentai is because I find some of it more, erm, "romantic" than normal porn. There's some crazy, crazy stuff, but most of it is easily distinguishable. Mainstream porno has scarred me for life, unfortunately.
It is a product with extremely poor quality control, too much product proliferation, and not enough critical review. It would be a lot simpler if the industry consolidated into a few major players with distinctive styles so you don't have to sift through mountains of shit in order to find a decent porno.
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I would like to know how it is that they are allegedly that young, and still have the secondary sex characteristics of a much older person?


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The Yosemite Bear wrote:I would like to know how it is that they are allegedly that young, and still have the secondary sex characteristics of a much older person?

hmm
Good point; in the pictures I've seen, they're dressed like schoolgirls but they have the "development" of women. Let's face it; young teenaged girls just aren't sexy. The more voluptuous build of a fully matured woman is much, much sexier.
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Not to mention many of them have mastered "The Strut" which requires the hip displacement of an adult to perform properly....
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The Yosemite Bear wrote:I would like to know how it is that they are allegedly that young, and still have the secondary sex characteristics of a much older person?
Age in anime and by extension hentai is a strange thing. Character can be 15 and look twenty. Or be 35 and look like they shouldn't even be in high school.
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So which exact titles are we talking about here, anyway? Maybe I just do a good job of avoiding the stuff to not see them or hear about them, but I was under the impression that hentai with girls under 18 were rare, at least out of anime as a whole.
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Darth Utsanomiko wrote:So which exact titles are we talking about here, anyway? Maybe I just do a good job of avoiding the stuff to not see them or hear about them, but I was under the impression that hentai with girls under 18 were rare, at least out of anime as a whole.
Counting only original hentai anime you're correct for the 12 years old and under people.

Know anyone know what the the phile term for 14-17 old years, as pedophilia is for pre-adolescent children 0-13 yrs olds.
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Darth Utsanomiko wrote:So which exact titles are we talking about here, anyway? Maybe I just do a good job of avoiding the stuff to not see them or hear about them, but I was under the impression that hentai with girls under 18 were rare, at least out of anime as a whole.
I'd imagine that the line can get pretty fuzzy with the strange way anime characters how age. Some can be 12 and look 20. Others could be 20 and look 12.
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Let's face it; young teenaged girls just aren't sexy. The more voluptuous build of a fully matured woman is much, much sexier.
I agree. In my opinion, a girl doesn't start becoming "sexy" until around 16 (give or take a year... nowadays girls can start maturing at REALLY young ages, frighteningly enough), and even then it's a few years until they reach real physical maturity.

'Course, I know a fair share of ladies that are in their '40s and still EXTREMELY sexy.
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Rubberanvil wrote:
Darth Utsanomiko wrote:So which exact titles are we talking about here, anyway? Maybe I just do a good job of avoiding the stuff to not see them or hear about them, but I was under the impression that hentai with girls under 18 were rare, at least out of anime as a whole.
Counting only original hentai anime you're correct for the 12 years old and under people.

Know anyone know what the the phile term for 14-17 old years, as pedophilia is for pre-adolescent children 0-13 yrs olds.
All I know is there is such a term... I bet a NAMBLA website would mention it somewhere. If it actually meant that much to you.

As you posted most ANIMATED hentai features women of moderate age, but fan produced doujinshi has some really young girls sometimes, like...well, no graphic examples, but Card Captor Sakura, Misty (from Pokemon), that young sailor scout, Princess Sammy from Tenchi Muyo, etc.
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Darth Utsanomiko wrote:So which exact titles are we talking about here, anyway? Maybe I just do a good job of avoiding the stuff to not see them or hear about them, but I was under the impression that hentai with girls under 18 were rare, at least out of anime as a whole.
I'd imagine that the line can get pretty fuzzy with the strange way anime characters how age. Some can be 12 and look 20. Others could be 20 and look 12.
Again from Tenchi we have Washuu Chan, the science goddess who's 5,000 or something and looks...yea, 12. (though she does it on purpose...) There's something about the stylization of some anime characters that makes them look really young in any case.
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Sriad wrote:As you posted most ANIMATED hentai features women of moderate age, but fan produced doujinshi has some really young girls sometimes, like...well, no graphic examples, but Card Captor Sakura, Misty (from Pokemon), that young sailor scout, Princess Sammy from Tenchi Muyo, etc.
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Sakura? Misty? Chibi-Usa? Sasami???

WTF?
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Sriad wrote:As you posted most ANIMATED hentai features women of moderate age, but fan produced doujinshi has some really young girls sometimes, like...well, no graphic examples, but Card Captor Sakura, Misty (from Pokemon), that young sailor scout, Princess Sammy from Tenchi Muyo, etc.
One of the contacts I have in another forum keeps around Card Captor Sakura snuff porn in his directory, of all things. And I seriously doubt that's the worst of it.

Needless to say, I always have to be extremely careful to guess the content of what he's trying to post before I look at it.
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phongn wrote:
Sriad wrote:As you posted most ANIMATED hentai features women of moderate age, but fan produced doujinshi has some really young girls sometimes, like...well, no graphic examples, but Card Captor Sakura, Misty (from Pokemon), that young sailor scout, Princess Sammy from Tenchi Muyo, etc.
:shock:

Sakura? Misty? Chibi-Usa? Sasami???

WTF?
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