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Losonti Tokash wrote:Man, if anyone wasn't sure this board has a problem with women, I bet this thread would have a solid chance of convincing them. Just look at how invested people are in making rape jokes and that we've even got a mod just throwing around stereotypes to explain why the board drives women away.
Oh, christ, just noticed this bleeding pile of stupid...

Show where I'm defending rape or rape jokes, jackass. I'm making fun of a specific person who I personally think of as the worst kind of whore (she's a politician, for fuck's sake. I've got more respect for actual prostitutes, since in their case at least someone might actually be getting enjoyment out of being fucked out of their money). Also, I never hear you whining if we use male stereotypes to make fun of men, so check your goddamn privilege already, you fucking hypocrite.
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Mr. Coffee wrote:Wait, are you seriously fucking suggesting that my joke was directed at all women and not at Sarah Palin speciffically?
Given that you're a self-professed creeper who admitted to hatching an elaborate scheme to spy on a female employee to see her breasts, I don't see why we can't assume you think this way about women. Your comments about Palin are more of the same, so it really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that you see women solely as sex objects. Remember that time you saw shitty movies? They were good because you got to put your dick to use.
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Mr. Coffee wrote:Wait, are you seriously fucking suggesting that my joke was directed at all women and not at Sarah Palin speciffically?
Given that you're a self-professed creeper who admitted to hatching an elaborate scheme to spy on a female employee to see her breasts, I don't see why we can't assume you think this way about women.
What in the utter hell are you talking about?

JLTucker wrote:Your comments about Palin are more of the same, so it really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that you see women solely as sex objects. Remember that time you saw shitty movies? They were good because you got to put your dick to use.
Again, what in the utter fuck are you talking about? Are you drunk?
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Gotcha confused with someone lese. Deepest apologies. Backs away with head bowed in shame.
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Mr. Coffee wrote:Wait, are you seriously fucking suggesting that my joke was directed at all women and not at Sarah Palin speciffically?
The idea is more that it's a way that women in particular are insulted because they are women, regardless of the fact that this time it's being aimed at Sarah Palin in specifically.

I mean I get that you would be totally okay with a male porn star following John McCain or Rick Santorum around to shove his dick into their mouths too, but it's not just you who says that sort of thing and some particular insults make people think of the same insults that are used an awful lot by people who do have a problem with women. It all adds up to people who keep hearing it, you know?
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Ralin wrote:The idea is more that it's a way that women in particular are insulted because they are women, regardless of the fact that this time it's being aimed at Sarah Palin in specifically.
Well, saying she's a short dicked, delusional asshole that couldn't get laid if you tossed her in a whorehouse with a fist full of Franklins wouldn't work. I suppose I could have suggested a ball gag, but I'm not into S&M. But I understand blowjobs. Gotta go with the kink you understand.
Ralin wrote:I mean I get that you would be totally okay with a male porn star following John McCain
Or a female porn star. Although barring an overdose of viagra I don't think McCain has much use for either sex.

Ralin wrote:or Rick Santorum around to shove his dick into their mouths too
Even pornstars have standards, man.

Ralin wrote:but it's not just you who says that sort of thing and some particular insults make people think of the same insults that are used an awful lot by people who do have a problem with women. It all adds up to people who keep hearing it, you know?
The last several times the topic of what is and isn't funny was covered (seriously, this board has no memory), we've always come to the consensus that humor is subjective as fuck and what is funny to some isn't funny to others. How about we all just skip another six or seven pages of bitchy whiningdrama and just arrive at the same fucking conclusion we always do?
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Mr. Coffee wrote:The last several times the topic of what is and isn't funny was covered (seriously, this board has no memory), we've always come to the consensus that humor is subjective as fuck and what is funny to some isn't funny to others. How about we all just skip another six or seven pages of bitchy whiningdrama and just arrive at the same fucking conclusion we always do?
We should, but it also bears mentioning that just because someone finds it funny (or it was intended as a joke) doesn't mean that it's not reinforcing bigotry. Honestly though, if it had been anything other than this joke I don't think anyone would have bothered to get all upset, Rape Culture seems to be the flavor of the month (or few months) when it comes to social awareness. Not that I think that's bad, but it always ends up being an angry hornet's nest when someone triggers the reaction, while other things are allowed to slide by.
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Saying that a female politician needs to be sexually assaulted every time she says something is of course furthering rape culture. And if you say, "well, dear, those same jokes are made against males all the time" I have to remind you of the thing called power differential as well as historical reality: women were and are still not only disproportionally more likely to be victims of rape they're also more likely to be blamed for it with the perpetrator going off lightly or even scot-free. Jokes about molesting women sexually contribute to the continuation of this state of affairs.

It's the same reason making lynching jokes about african-americans is still in bad taste and why "cracker" carries nowhere near the weight that "nigger" does. White, able-bodied and heteronormative males are privileged. This should never bee overlooked or forgotten.
Covenant wrote: Rape Culture seems to be the flavor of the month (or few months) when it comes to social awareness.
No, it's more that society has changed enough in a progressive direction that these things can now be openly questioned and challenged. Due to the pervasive nature of misogyny, it's still a long way to go, however.

Brushing it off as a momentary fad is doing it a grave injustice in my opinion.
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Covenant wrote:
Mr. Coffee wrote:The last several times the topic of what is and isn't funny was covered (seriously, this board has no memory), we've always come to the consensus that humor is subjective as fuck and what is funny to some isn't funny to others. How about we all just skip another six or seven pages of bitchy whiningdrama and just arrive at the same fucking conclusion we always do?
We should, but it also bears mentioning that just because someone finds it funny (or it was intended as a joke) doesn't mean that it's not reinforcing bigotry.
By that fucked up logic we should just go ahead and ban Comedy all forms of comedy period.
Covenant wrote:Honestly though, if it had been anything other than this joke I don't think anyone would have bothered to get all upset, Rape Culture seems to be the flavor of the month (or few months) when it comes to social awareness. Not that I think that's bad, but it always ends up being an angry hornet's nest when someone triggers the reaction, while other things are allowed to slide by.
And I'll tell those people the same thing I said last time. A joke's a joke, comedy is subjective, and where I'm from you do not have the right to not be offended.
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Metahive wrote:Saying that a female politician needs to be sexually assaulted every time she says something is of course furthering rape culture.
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/sa ... 8/21/47079

I'm a bit lost. Who is furthering rape culture, Coffee, who doesn't discriminate and earnestly thinks they all deserve to be fucked, male or female, or people who actually want rape victims to suffer horribly by denying them abortion rights and introducing concepts like 'legitimate rape'? :?

'Female politician' is not a shield. Especially in case of vicious gender traitors like Palin.
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I'm curious, does anyone actually think the wannabe-macho passive-aggressive chest beating and faux outrage whenever someone perceives a slight against women is actually helping improve anything?
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