Neo Nazi party severs ties with porn star member after...

[mr friendly guy]

They did some research and found that in her latest movie she um, starred opposite a black man.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/g ... -1.1739041

German porn star dropped by Neo-Nazi party for having sex with black male
Ina Groll, 28, who was a spokeswoman for the National Democratic Party of Germany and anti-immigration policies, was dropped by the party following the release of her film ‘Kitty Discovers Sperm.’ She is now facing a boycott by her country’s porn industry for her political views.

A Nazi porn star is in trouble with her racist party for filming a sex scene with a black man.
A German porn star has been dropped by the national neo-Nazi party after her latest film features her having sex with a black man.
The National Democratic Party of Germany had no problem making Ina Groll, 28, the face of its right leaning party, until her latest movie unveiled her in a multi-racial tryst.
The blond tattooed Nazi spokeswoman, who encouraged men to join the cause by wearing seductive outfits outside of polling places, was deemed a poor representation of its organization due to her latest film "Kitty Discovers Sperm," according to Capitalism Is Freedom.

The controversy over the film caused the launch of an online Facebook campaign to kick her out of the party and shortly later the party's members agreed, the website reported.
"Those who sell their body for money and disgrace their race have no place in our party," as one poster said.
A description of the film on the website Buy Euro Porn states Groll's character "knows what true men want."

Groll does not address the recent news on her Facebook page but her latest post on Thursday shows her feelings have not changed.
"We want to preserve Germany as a land of Germans, want to retain our identity and fight against mass immigration. It is enough! Criminal aliens and social parasites out of our country and back to their homes!" reads a translation of the post.
It appears Groll, whose porn name is "Kitty Blair," is not only unwelcome at Nazi functions but also faces a boycott by German pornographers.

"The popular view is that she needs to be locked up, no one needs someone like her with her perverted view of the world," Axel Schaffrath, a German porn insider who is the former partner of top German porn star Gina Wild, told Central European News. "She certainly has no chance of filming any more porn movies after her Nazi links were revealed. I personally advised the producers to keep her as far away as possible, people like her need to be ignored by everyone."
John Thompson, head of the Berlin porn film company "GGG," told the news agency there had been a unanimous decision to boycott the blond actress.
"In the porn film industry, we welcome participants with all skin colours, and all nationalities, but we don't welcome Nazis," he said. "If we had known about her political activities, we would have sent her home straight away."

I wonder at the cognitive dissonance involved within Groll's head. Surely she must have realised that a Neo Nazi party might frown on interracial sex.

[Iroscato]

I probably shouldn't laugh, but...fuck me, this gets funnier the more times I read it.

[Zaune]

I wonder at the cognitive dissonance involved within Groll's head. Surely she must have realised that a Neo Nazi party might frown on interracial sex.

Well, if they kicked out everyone who had to deal professionally with a black person in the course of their day-job they'd be pretty short of members, I guess.

[Raw Shark]

I wonder at the cognitive dissonance involved within Groll's head. Surely she must have realised that a Neo Nazi party might frown on interracial sex.

Yeah, I really can't imagine a more elegant and thorough simultaneous self-destruct of one's professional and social lives than this. Your two personas are completely incompatible? That's cool, as long as nothing happens that throws media attention on.... oh shit...

Well, if they kicked out everyone who had to deal professionally with a black person in the course of their day-job they'd be pretty short of members, I guess.

Sure, but a day job that involves having sex with that black person pushes all kinds of white-hot miscegenation buttons for militant racists that eg: sharing a cubicle row with that black person probably doesn't push.

[Zaune]

Point. Eh, they're neo-Nazis, logic and internal consistency in your ideological beliefs is probably grounds for expulsion anyway.

[Scrib]

Point. Eh, they're neo-Nazis, logic and internal consistency in your ideological beliefs is probably grounds for expulsion anyway.

I don't see the inconsistency?

[Thanas]

I probably shouldn't laugh, but...fuck me, this gets funnier the more times I read it.

First time I can ever state that the NPD has brightened my day.

[Ralin]

I thought neo-Nazi parties were banned in Germany?

[mr friendly guy]

Apparently they just skirt the line. There are however plans to try banning them again (after it failed the first time).

[Thanas]

Yeah, they are pretty smart at pushing the envelope. And we try to ban them but the problem will be the same as last time - our internal secret service got so many informers in them that it is hard to distinguish between Nazis and state-sponsored informants. Reportedly last time about a third of the party leadership council was composed of informants. Banning them is kinda hard because that time it was impossible to distinguish who did what with that many informants.

[Ralin]

Yeah, they are pretty smart at pushing the envelope. And we try to ban them but the problem will be the same as last time - our internal secret service got so many informers in them that it is hard to distinguish between Nazis and state-sponsored informants. Reportedly last time about a third of the party leadership council was composed of informants. Banning them is kinda hard because that time it was impossible to distinguish who did what with that many informants.

Maybe this is just me being an American, but that seems like a mark in favor of the US way of handling extremist groups. Whatever political problems the US may have one thing we don't have to worry about is the Klan. They've been totally marginalized and made irrelevant by a combination of law enforcement infiltration and civil suits. We don't have to ban neo-Nazi or KKK parties because if one ran they wouldn't get enough votes to matter worth a damn. Our Republicans, while often racist, bigoted and thoroughly reprehensible, do not openly advocate racism even though they’re legally free to do so because they know they could expect to be punished by the electorate and their own party if they did

And Germany's had the benefit of just short of seventy years of the German people having their collective faces shoved into how evil and wrong the Nazis were. Why is it that there are still enough people who would vote for a neo-Nazi party that banning them is necessary?

[Thanas]

Yeah, they are pretty smart at pushing the envelope. And we try to ban them but the problem will be the same as last time - our internal secret service got so many informers in them that it is hard to distinguish between Nazis and state-sponsored informants. Reportedly last time about a third of the party leadership council was composed of informants. Banning them is kinda hard because that time it was impossible to distinguish who did what with that many informants.

Maybe this is just me being an American, but that seems like a mark in favor of the US way of handling extremist groups. Whatever political problems the US may have one thing we don't have to worry about is the Klan. They've been totally marginalized and made irrelevant by a combination of law enforcement infiltration and civil suits. We don't have to ban neo-Nazi or KKK parties because if one ran they wouldn't get enough votes to matter worth a damn. Our Republicans, while often racist, bigoted and thoroughly reprehensible, do not openly advocate racism even though they’re legally free to do so because they know they could expect to be punished by the electorate and their own party if they did

And Germany's had the benefit of just short of seventy years of the German people having their collective faces shoved into how evil and wrong the Nazis were. Why is it that there are still enough people who would vote for a neo-Nazi party that banning them is necessary?

Dude, the GOP is pretty much the NPD if we are comparing political platforms (their rhetoric on immigrants is very similar except that so far the NPD have not formed armed patrols of assholes at the borders). So that should tell you how far the political spectrum is shifted to the left compared to the USA. Heck, our right-wing god-pushing conservatives are more left leaning than the Democrats. Don't believe me? Our two parties who even have the word "christian" as their first adjectives are in favor of socialist healthcare, a huge welfare net, nuclear disarmament, against interventions in the rest of the world etc. So you can't compare the German to the American spectrum without that filter.

So with that caveat, here is what is really going on with the NPD: They are utterly irrelevant. Scroll down, look at the percentage of the electorate vote they are getting. With the exception of four impoverished states they poll in the 1-2% margins. Those impoverished states are also all former communist dictatorship states, which means there is a larger number of people predisposed to simple authoritarian nationalist messages.

So why do people see them as a threat? Well, simply because they are the only coordinated revanchists who have a presence on the national level out there (though how coordinated is another matter, to anybody fanmiliar with german politics they probably look more like an alliance of several distinct groupings). They are also the only nationalists being represented in two state governments, though all they have accomplished so far is making huge fools out of themselves. Nothing cures the electorate more than seeing the idiots trying to actually agree on a policy or even trying to push it through. I shall also note that overall representation of them is down, in the seventies they were present in seven state parliaments (all in the west). Now they are active only in two, all of them east.

More importantly, there is a huge pool of resources focused on them because:
a) People do not want Nazis getting elected so they try to ban them
b) They are a quick way to score points. Failed in your policy? Well, at least we are not the NPD. Got nothing done in the fight against real extremism? Quick, mention that you tried to ban the NPD. The NPD is a convenient bogeyman if you try to get more funding for the security apparatus or look tough on crime. In fact, last time the NPD ban was brought up it was during the time when the Social Democrats were getting hammered for having abandoned their leftist ideals. Quick, ban the Nazis to show we are still leftists (or at least that is my cynical interpretation of it).
c) They want the attention. Their whole strategy is to paint themselves as fighting for the common men who is getting held down by the oppressive state. That is why they do their whole song and dance number. They know they will get into clashes with left-wing extremists, but march nonetheless. When the police stop their march they can then go "bad state cracks down on freedoms". The state so far has not come up with an effective counterstrategy mainly because they continue to get media attention.

Are they a situational threat due to their ties with extremists? Yes. Are they a threat to turn Germany Nazi again? No way in hell. Why are they not banned yet? Incompetence, but it is not as if there are no more pressing issues.

But then again, even the NPD is not as stupid as to openly argue that being raped does not result in negative consequences unless the women deserved it God wanted it.

[Kitsune]

Looking at her. . . .Damn she has a lot of tattoos

[SAMAS]

I can understand why they cut her off. After all, once you go Black...

Sorry, but the setup is right there! Somebody had to say it!

[xerex]

Now I want to find that movie.

[Marko Dash]

it's not that hard to find clips of it, she goes by the name 'Kitty Blair'.

[mr friendly guy]

Here is a funny "news" video of the story. Warning contains expletives so might be a problem at work.

[Metahive]

*snip*

Back in the early nineties, I used to say and think that our german republican party is to the far right and therefore nothing like the american republican party which is moderate and reasonable. Isn't it sad that both NPD and REP seem to be either on par or even slightly to the left of the GOP nowadays?

[Borgholio]

*snip*

Back in the early nineties, I used to say and think that our german republican party is to the far right and therefore nothing like the american republican party which is moderate and reasonable. Isn't it sad that both NPD and REP seem to be either on par or even slightly to the left of the GOP nowadays?

Our left is in many ways what a moderate is to Europe. Our right is...well...batshit fucking crazy.

When people accuse Obama of being Socialist or Communist, I can practically hear people in Poland laughing their asses off.

[Metahive]

If with your left you mean the Democratic Party then, weeeeell, I would still say they're to the right of most mainstream european rightwing parties (as Thanas explained), with the exception of crazies like the hungarian Fidesz. Could you imagine someone like Merkel with her current platform running a successful primary in the Democratic Party? I just can't.

[Welf]

If with your left you mean the Democratic Party then, weeeeell, I would still say they're to the right of most mainstream european rightwing parties (as Thanas explained), with the exception of crazies like the hungarian Fidesz. Could you imagine someone like Merkel with her current platform running a successful primary in the Democratic Party? I just can't.

Merkel has a platform aside from "vote Merkel"? Although I'm curious if an american Merkel could become the presidential candidate for the GOP. She seems smarter than the current field but lacks the aura of revolutionary zeal.

[Thanas]

Sure Merkel has a platform. Pretty median and bland but it is there. And yes, no way in hell would she win a US primary with that one. The environmental aspects alone would put her out of it.

[Metahive]

Merkel has a platform aside from "vote Merkel"? Although I'm curious if an american Merkel could become the presidential candidate for the GOP. She seems smarter than the current field but lacks the aura of revolutionary zeal.

I'm pretty sure a GOP primary would throw out Merkel at the first possible moment and not for a lack of revolutionary zeal. Romney had none of that and only became candidate because he was the only one who could at least partially appeal to the mainstream and yet I'm sure that if he were in Germany he would be unelectable for the established conservative parties. That's how far right the GOP has drifted.

[Welf]

Don't you remember the 2005 platform? The one with the flat-tax professor? Where she tried to be New Thatcher? That she killed after it almost ruined her election? Ideological flexibility has never been her problem.

[Irbis]

Don't you remember the 2005 platform? The one with the flat-tax professor? Where she tried to be New Thatcher? That she killed after it almost ruined her election? Ideological flexibility has never been her problem.

Yeah. Also, remember Merkel boldly reviving nuclear power until absurd knee-jerk fear of Baltic (and especially Alpine) tsunamis caused her to do 180° turn and go all 'burn baby burn' on Russian gas?