French railway operator SNCF orders hundreds of new trains that are too big
SNCF's failure to verify measurements results in cost of €50m to modify 1,300 platforms in one in six regional stations
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Kim Willsher in Paris
theguardian.com, Wednesday 21 May 2014 07.03 EDT
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SNCF's new wider trains have resulted in the need to narrow 1,300 platforms throughout France at a cost of €50m. Photograph: Francois Guillot/AFP/Getty
The train due on platform one will not be arriving for the foreseeable future – because it is too big.
France's national railway operator SNCF has ordered 2,000 new trains that are too large for many of the stations they are due to serve.
The train operator has admitted failing to verify measurements it was given by the rail operator before ordering its new rolling stock.
The costly mistake has sparked an urgent €50m operation to modify 1,300 platforms on the regional network. SNCF has admitted that one in six regional train stations is affected. In the worst cases it has discovered two trains can no longer pass each other on adjacent lines.
The new regional trains, known as TERs (trains express regionaux), are intended to upgrade the network and were based on measurements provided by national rail operator RFF. However, RFF sent SNCF the dimensions of stations built less than 30 years ago. It was then discovered – after it was too late – that the trains, due to go into service from now until 2016, were too big by several centimetres for stations built more than 50 years ago.
SNCF said only 341 trains – 182 from Alstom and 159 from Bombardier – were affected.
However, satirical news magazine Le Canard Enchainé insisted 1,000 of the trains had been ordered from Alstom and 860 from Bombardier, making a total of 1,860 trains that were too wide for many of the stations they are to service.
The French minister of transport described the situation as absurd and a "comic drama". He blamed the previous centre-right administration's decision to separate the rail network from the train network.
The rail farce was revealed in Le Canard Enchaîné, which said: "The clever engineers at SNCF forgot to verify the facts on the ground."
Christophe Piednoël, spokesman for RFF, told France Info radio: "It's as if you have bought a Ferrari that you want to park in your garage, and you realise that your garage isn't exactly the right size to fit a Ferrari because you didn't have a Ferrari before. We discovered the problem a little late … we are making our mea culpa."
SNCF and RFF said in a joint statement on Wednesday: "Putting this network of new generation and larger trains in order to satisfy public demand will require the modernisation of 1,300 platforms out of the 8,700 in the French rail network."
The economic newspaper Les Echos said: "It could have been an arithmetic exercise from the old days."
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See, folks, shit like this is why my Pop always said "son, measure twice, cut once." Devil's in the details.
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Words of wisdom. It's terrifying how few people actually take that advice these days, and wonder why their projects come out looking like shit.measure twice, cut once
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Actually this sounds nice. It seems like they just got funded to do much needed modernisation of the 1300 platforms which where over 50 years old and more...
Well if you are being nice that is.
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According to their official website, the revenue for the company taking care of French railways was €7.9 billion during the first quarter of 2014, so while this is embarrassing, the sum does not seem to be that large in relation to their revenue.
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I saw one article say in fact its 50 million Euros they already spent to modify 300 platforms, and the other 1,000 still have to be shaved down. So the real cost might be rather higher.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they saved 50 million euro quickly by introducing new trains as soon as possible. Efficiency and all that.
And anyway, dumb as the above sounds, it's got nothing on US-copied stupidity that was Polish train policy in last 12 years
And anyway, dumb as the above sounds, it's got nothing on US-copied stupidity that was Polish train policy in last 12 years
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Can't be anyworse than the unholy trinity of Network Rail, the Department for Transport and whichever train company has a franchise at the time.
Although saying that, NR are adapting platforms down here for trains being cascaded down in the next five years....what could possibly go wrong.
Although saying that, NR are adapting platforms down here for trains being cascaded down in the next five years....what could possibly go wrong.
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Oh, it will be better in the end. Hopefully. Maybe.Dartzap wrote:Can't be anyworse than the unholy trinity of Network Rail, the Department for Transport and whichever train company has a franchise at the time.
As it is today, it sucks more. Much more
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