Crashing into star destroyers

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-03-17 02:43pm

is this a viable tactic for attacking SD's?i haven't seen the films in aaaages, and have no idea if shields or whatever where up when fighters crash into SDs. Someone PLEASE refresh my memory, cos i really can't remember crap.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-03-17 04:11pm

Rye wrote:is this a viable tactic for attacking SD's?i haven't seen the films in aaaages, and have no idea if shields or whatever where up when fighters crash into SDs. Someone PLEASE refresh my memory, cos i really can't remember crap.

Watch TESB again. Huge asteroids are effortlessly disentigrated on ISD's shields. In ROTJ, there is a scene where a Y-Wing crashes into an ISD, and is destroyed on its shields. Another incident would be when a TIE smashes itself into a Mon Cal cruiser at high speeds, and is desroyed, causing no damage to the Mon Cal. When the A-Wing crashes through the Executor's window, the shields were down.

SoX · Post by **SoX** » 2003-03-18 02:22pm

X-wing PC game. in the X-Wing PC Game you could take out an ISD with just a Y-Wing, 2 proton torps for each shield generator (shields down) and then your favourite flavour of cannon, be it Ion or otherwise to take it down. And arent all Lucasarts games approved by Mr Lucas beforehand?

-- In Later games Tie Fighter and Xwing vs Tie Fighter it was a little harder but you could still take one out with a squadron of X-Wings\B-Wings.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-03-18 02:26pm

yeh, my brother says something similar about x wing versus tie fighter, but that one apparently had more input from george lucas.
BTW i found the shields section on this page, heroes i say.
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/index.html

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-03-18 02:30pm

SoX wrote:X-wing PC game. in the X-Wing PC Game you could take out an ISD with just a Y-Wing, 2 proton torps for each shield generator (shields down) and then your favourite flavour of cannon, be it Ion or otherwise to take it down. And arent all Lucasarts games approved by Mr Lucas beforehand?

-- In Later games Tie Fighter and Xwing vs Tie Fighter it was a little harder but you could still take one out with a squadron of X-Wings\B-Wings.

Listen moron GAME MECHANICS ARE NOT CANON READ THE FUCKING ANNOUNCEMENTS BOARD BEFORE YOU MAKE HALF-ASSED REMARKS

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-03-18 02:31pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:
Rye wrote:is this a viable tactic for attacking SD's?i haven't seen the films in aaaages, and have no idea if shields or whatever where up when fighters crash into SDs. Someone PLEASE refresh my memory, cos i really can't remember crap.
Watch TESB again. Huge asteroids are effortlessly disentigrated on ISD's shields.

Not to mention the two ISDs that collide before they enter the asteroid field and have no visible damage.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-03-18 02:44pm

Darth Pounder wrote:
SoX wrote:X-wing PC game. in the X-Wing PC Game you could take out an ISD with just a Y-Wing, 2 proton torps for each shield generator (shields down) and then your favourite flavour of cannon, be it Ion or otherwise to take it down. And arent all Lucasarts games approved by Mr Lucas beforehand?

-- In Later games Tie Fighter and Xwing vs Tie Fighter it was a little harder but you could still take one out with a squadron of X-Wings\B-Wings.
Listen moron GAME MECHANICS ARE NOT CANON READ THE FUCKING ANNOUNCEMENTS BOARD BEFORE YOU MAKE HALF-ASSED REMARKS

Well, one must wonder, why lucasarts made it that way then...does anyone know? Cos they must have had a debate over it and decided it was the best way...?

SoX · Post by **SoX** » 2003-03-18 02:48pm

Well if it says it in the film then it must be true... sorry for introducing a new slant on things.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-03-18 02:49pm

Rye wrote:
Darth Pounder wrote:
SoX wrote:X-wing PC game. in the X-Wing PC Game you could take out an ISD with just a Y-Wing, 2 proton torps for each shield generator (shields down) and then your favourite flavour of cannon, be it Ion or otherwise to take it down. And arent all Lucasarts games approved by Mr Lucas beforehand?

-- In Later games Tie Fighter and Xwing vs Tie Fighter it was a little harder but you could still take one out with a squadron of X-Wings\B-Wings.
Listen moron GAME MECHANICS ARE NOT CANON READ THE FUCKING ANNOUNCEMENTS BOARD BEFORE YOU MAKE HALF-ASSED REMARKS
Well, one must wonder, why lucasarts made it that way then...does anyone know? Cos they must have had a debate over it and decided it was the best way...?

Because games are fucked up things, In Starcraft one marine with a machine gun can kill a fucking battlecruiser. If the game was made as things are suposed to be no one would play because it'd be too fucking hard. I know you dumb but try and use that wee lump of lard between your ears. Also read the fucking announcement board where it says game story lines are the lowest form of canon and game mechanics don't even get mentioned. Serriously read the site before making stupid fucking comments.

SoX · Post by **SoX** » 2003-03-18 02:53pm

I think someone needs a hug.

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2003-03-18 02:55pm

SoX wrote:Well if it says it in the film then it must be true... sorry for introducing a new slant on things.

It was neither new nor a 'slant', I'm afraid to inform you. It's a tired, old arguement that depends on ignorance of Canon policy. Game mechanics are to make the game fun, not realistic. If players want to fight against SDs without being totally anhilated, they'll fudge all the numbers they want to make it possible. Therefore, it's never considered an accurate depiction of how Star Wars works, so don't use it again.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-03-18 03:01pm

Darth Utsanomiko wrote:
SoX wrote:Well if it says it in the film then it must be true... sorry for introducing a new slant on things.
It was neither new nor a 'slant', I'm afraid to inform you. It's a tired, old arguement that depends on ignorance of Canon policy. Game mechanics are to make the game fun, not realistic. If players want to fight against SDs without being totally anhilated, they'll fudge all the numbers they want to make it possible. Therefore, it's never considered an accurate depiction of how Star Wars works, so don't use it again.

well, that said, star destroyers are generally crap at shooting down fighters to my recollection.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-03-18 03:03pm

which is why they carry ties ^_^

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-03-18 03:05pm

Rye wrote:
Darth Utsanomiko wrote:
SoX wrote:Well if it says it in the film then it must be true... sorry for introducing a new slant on things.
It was neither new nor a 'slant', I'm afraid to inform you. It's a tired, old arguement that depends on ignorance of Canon policy. Game mechanics are to make the game fun, not realistic. If players want to fight against SDs without being totally anhilated, they'll fudge all the numbers they want to make it possible. Therefore, it's never considered an accurate depiction of how Star Wars works, so don't use it again.
well, that said, star destroyers are generally crap at shooting down fighters to my recollection.

ISD's are built to kill Cap ships. Using a ship that costs as much resources to build as a ISD is kinda over kill thats why ISD's carry fighters and are often accompanyed by anti-starfighter cap-ships.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-03-18 04:34pm

Rye wrote:well, that said, star destroyers are generally crap at shooting down fighters to my recollection.

Really. Only one of two fighters trying to ram the Executor's bridge makes it all the way, and was still damaged in the attempt. Thats a minimum of 50% chance to kill the fighter. You call that crap?

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-03-18 04:37pm

Darth Servo wrote:
Rye wrote:well, that said, star destroyers are generally crap at shooting down fighters to my recollection.
Really. Only one of two fighters trying to ram the Executor's bridge makes it all the way, and was still damaged in the attempt. Thats a minimum of 50% chance to kill the fighter. You call that crap?

yes. yes i do.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-03-18 04:49pm

Rye wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:
Rye wrote:well, that said, star destroyers are generally crap at shooting down fighters to my recollection.
Really. Only one of two fighters trying to ram the Executor's bridge makes it all the way, and was still damaged in the attempt. Thats a minimum of 50% chance to kill the fighter. You call that crap?
yes. yes i do.

I suppose next you'll say they can't hit YT's, because they only nailed the Falcon two dozen times...

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-03-18 04:52pm

Rye wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:
Rye wrote:well, that said, star destroyers are generally crap at shooting down fighters to my recollection.
Really. Only one of two fighters trying to ram the Executor's bridge makes it all the way, and was still damaged in the attempt. Thats a minimum of 50% chance to kill the fighter. You call that crap?
yes. yes i do.

*smack* So what do you want? 100%?

Perfection is impossible.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-03-18 04:54pm

Rye wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:
Rye wrote:well, that said, star destroyers are generally crap at shooting down fighters to my recollection.
Really. Only one of two fighters trying to ram the Executor's bridge makes it all the way, and was still damaged in the attempt. Thats a minimum of 50% chance to kill the fighter. You call that crap?
yes. yes i do.

I would assume that that is because you are a moron.

In real life, accuracy using guns (not missiles) agaisnt planes is pretty poor, hence the reason they use flak instead of straight shells.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-03-18 05:08pm

lol, i was being pedantic. i didnt mean it. heheheh

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2003-03-18 05:17pm

Rye wrote:lol, i was being pedantic. i didnt mean it. heheheh

*smack*

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-03-19 12:51am

Rye wrote:lol, i was being pedantic. i didnt mean it. heheheh

I see no one laughing.

Darth Balls · Post by **Darth Balls** » 2003-03-19 12:55am

One thing everyone should remember is that games are made for GAMEPLAY, not authenticity.

Jordie · Post by **Jordie** » 2003-03-19 01:13am

The most "realistic" starfighter games that are out is Starfighter and Jedi Starfighter, in those 2 you need capships to take out other capships, the biggest thing you can take out with a starfigter would be the Trade Federation troop dropships.

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2003-03-19 04:42am

Something else to remeber in ANH TIE fighters account for most of the rebel kills over the Death Star and only Vaders Wing was launched.

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