I too am very interested in precisely where, when and how it became a crime to photograph federal agents or buildings. Withholding the footage does not make the border patrol look particularly good in this.Foxnews wrote:A Boy Scout troop from the nation’s heartland is demanding answers and a U.S. senator is expressing outrage after a group of scouts was detained by federal agents and one child allegedly was held at gunpoint.
Jim Fox, the leader of the Mid-Iowa Boy Scout Troop 111, said the incident occurred earlier this month at a checkpoint along the Alaska – Canada border. The scouts and their leaders were on a 21-day trek from Iowa to Alaska – a trip that had been three years in the planning.
As their vans were moving through a checkpoint into the United States, one of the scouts snapped a photograph. Agents stopped the van and ordered all the passengers to get out. They told the underage photographer that he had committed a federal crime.
“The agent immediately confiscated his camera, informed him he would be arrested, fined possibly $10,000 and ten years in prison,” Fox told Des Moines television station KCCI.
During the search, one of the scouts tried to retrieve a bag from the roof carrier. When he turned around, Fox said an agent had a loaded pistol pointed at the child.
“He heard a snap of the holster, turns around, and here’s this agent, both hands on a loaded pistol, pointing at the young man’s head,” Fox told the television station.
The scoutmaster wrote a detailed account of the incident on his Facebook page. He said he tried to watch the agents search the van but was ordered to return to his vehicle. An agent followed him and told the youngsters “that the next one to leave the van would be handcuffed and detained.”
“The agent in charge informed me of the potential charges against (the) scout and informed me it is a violation of federal law for any American to take a picture of a federal agent or any federal building,” Fox wrote.
Fox said he and another member of the troop were interrogated by agents – forced to answer questions about their background.
They also wanted to know why the Boy Scouts were hauling “excessive amounts of lighters, matches and knives.”
Oh, for goodness sake, people. (Sorry, I’ll try to refrain from further editorializing.)
After a lengthy delay, the scouts were released without any charges being filed.
“The boys were unnecessarily frightened and intimidated,” Fox wrote. “When do we Americans decide enough is enough? The TSA and border guards are a valuable asset to the safety of this country, but to have such Gestapo tactics against a teenage scout is uncalled for.”
Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, agrees.
“It’s outrageous that a border patrol agent would point a gun at a boy scout just for taking a picture,” he told the television station. “It just doesn’t make sense.”
The senator’s office said they are looking into the matter.
Robert Hooper, the scout executive for the Mid-Iowa Council of the BSA, told me they, too, are upset and disturbed by the allegations.
“The guys were in scout uniforms,” he said. “I would like to know what caused this to happen. It does sound pretty extreme.”
Indeed, it does. It’s not like they were attempting to cross into the United States illegally.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection said they’ve had a chance to investigate – and they can’t find anything out of the ordinary.
“CBP takes any allegations of wrongdoing very seriously,” read their official statement. “CBP’s review of this group’s inspection, including video footage review indicates that our officer did not un-holster or handle his weapon as stated in the allegation. The review revealed nothing out of the ordinary. We have reached out to the Boy Scout troop for additional information in reference to the allegation. The video footage has been referred to CBP Internal Affairs for further review.”
So, what we have here is an old-fashioned case of he said, he said – or to be more accurate – the Boys Scouts said, the feds said.
In cases like this, the quickest way to determine who is being truthful is to look at the video. So I emailed U.S. Customs and Border Protection and officially requested a copy of the video.
My request was denied.
I also asked for a copy of the statute that criminalizes Photography 101. I’ve yet to receive a reply.
Fox is still fired up over how his scouts were treated – and I can’t say I blame him.
“This was an illegal search and intimidation of Americans returning to their home country,” he said.
So let’s review, good readers.
While hordes of illegals are stampeding across our southern border unimpeded, federal agents along our northern border detained and harassed a group of law-abiding American Boy Scouts.
I wonder what kind of merit badge they’ll get for that?
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Strangest to me is that Fox news is the one reporting it, even with the little bent at the end. Weren't they all "we need to make sacrifices for security" a few years back? Linky.
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"The government is oppressing us" sells copy with Fox News viewers at least as well as with anyone else.
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Exactly , you can bet this will be advertised as "evil Obama is now detaining Boy Scouts!!!!"
As opposed to some lone random border post being an asshole...
As opposed to some lone random border post being an asshole...
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Even as a liberal, I have to say that I agree with a good portion of the article. First, they're fucking boy scouts. Of course they're going to have knives and camping gear. Second, if it's a crime to photograph a federal agent or building, then anybody who has ever taken a picture of the White House or the president's motorcade would be arrested. Third, if the border agents on the southern border were as "thorough" as the ones in the article, we would have less of an immigration problem.
Now as for the evidence, I think it all hinges on this mystery video. If it does exist, it will be the only real way to determine which side is telling the truth.
Now as for the evidence, I think it all hinges on this mystery video. If it does exist, it will be the only real way to determine which side is telling the truth.
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This sort of shit happens all the time but I guess it's not newsworthy unless it's a Boyscout troop? At least it's finally getting some attention I guess.
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It's a lot easier to catch criminals when they aren't breaking the law.Borgholio wrote:Third, if the border agents on the southern border were as "thorough" as the ones in the article, we would have less of an immigration problem.
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Indeed. I'm willing to bet that this border agent was so overcome with the boredom of the hostile Canadian border that he decided to make some excitement for himself.TheFeniX wrote:It's a lot easier to catch criminals when they aren't breaking the law.Borgholio wrote:Third, if the border agents on the southern border were as "thorough" as the ones in the article, we would have less of an immigration problem.
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Maybe one of the scouts had skin that was less than pasty white and the agent got confused.Borgholio wrote:Indeed. I'm willing to bet that this border agent was so overcome with the boredom of the hostile Canadian border that he decided to make some excitement for himself.TheFeniX wrote:It's a lot easier to catch criminals when they aren't breaking the law.Borgholio wrote:Third, if the border agents on the southern border were as "thorough" as the ones in the article, we would have less of an immigration problem.
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