Doctor Who S34E5: "Time Heist" Spoilers

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Re: Doctor Who S34E5: "Time Heist" Spoilers

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I think the Teller is trained to react on thoughts that contain guilt against the bank not just guilt in general or else the Teller would have immediately have gone towards the Doctor instead. He's got to have plenty of guilt piled up over his lifetimes.
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jwl wrote:What makes you think they have a choice, considering what being "fired" means?
Agreed.

The only way I can see that bank having customers is if those customers don't have a choice. We are talking about a bank who, when they find someone guilty, can imprison their next of kin for being the next of kin. When the next of kin is likely off planet.
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They probably deal almost exclusively with rich, paranoid sociopaths/psychopaths. Most other people wouldn't think the risk would be worth the hassle. I'd say the other end of the spectrum would be businessmen who are being told to go retrieve something from the company account.
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InsaneTD wrote:They probably deal almost exclusively with rich, paranoid sociopaths/psychopaths.
<nod> Remember what was said in the "advert" right at the beginning; something like "if you're rich enough to own your own planet, this is where you keep it." Normal rules of paranoia need not apply. :roll:
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Perhaps not for the owners, but who in his (or her, or its) right mind would actually work for them? You feel guilty about anything, you die, your family goes to jail regardless of whether or not you actually had any plans to harm the bank. That's got to be a pretty desperate job market.
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That's not how it worked. Guilt is enough to get the Teller to investigate. It only destroyed the brain after detecting something more. We went over this already.
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I think by "guilt" they mean criminal intent, not regretting something. Like guilty/not guilty in a court.
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But that would return false positives as well. What if someone went to retrieve a weapon so they could kill someone? Up side, they wouldn't then be able to commit the crime, but they still aren't doing anything against the bank.
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The Teller is an intelligent being, no doubt it can use a bit of nous when doing its job, it's a slave to the bank, not a slave to semantics.
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I gave it a 5... and it seems I'm the only one to do so.
This is the first episode of the season where I have enjoyed every moment of it. There was no eye rolling or disbelief. I guess some of the plot but it had enough surprises in it to keep me hooked. I'm liking capaldi more and more as the season goes on. He has just enough barmy hand waving to balance out the eyebrows seriousness. I think I like him a lot better than Smith, though perhaps that's not saying a whole lot...
Was it flawless? Maybe not. It was very good though.

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