Chappie trailer

[Ahriman238]

Or, Neil Blomkamp (District 9, Elysium) lays off the social commentary, well I'm sure there'll be some, to make a high-concept movie about AI. Through a 'cute' robot.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6bmTNadhJE[/youtube]

Now what we really need is to record over the sound from the Age of Ultron trailer.

[Elheru Aran]

I saw this a few weeks ago when we went to see Gone Girl (decent movie, btw. Just be very sure you have a good relationship with your sig-other...). Your link's broken, BTW.

It's definitely very District 9 in feel, but given it's Blomkamp and Weta again, I'm not too surprised. I suspect if you enjoyed D9 you'll like this too.

[SCRawl]

This is probably what you had in mind.

[FSTargetDrone]

I'm sorry but those fuckin' rabbit ears are just irritating.

Just like when I saw the short, it pulls me right out of the story and I'm having trouble taking this seriously.



Btw, when trying to inline YouTube links it seems that removing the "s" from the "https" when you paste makes it work correctly.

[cadbrowser]

Interestingly enough...the blonde chick looks a lot like the female singer, Anri du Toit, from that South African rap-rave band called Die Antwoord. Oh snap...it IS her, IMDb has her listed (with no pic) as her stage name Yolandi Visser.

More to to the topic though, I'm finding it hard to keep watching the same "AI tries to find its humanity" sci-fi trope. It's WAY overdone IMHO. And can they PLEASE quit with the damn Disney cuteness already?

Why is it that humans feel the need to think that a machine becoming more human is the ultimate goal? Or that it would make it somehow better? Don't get me wrong, I think it is an important philosophical principle to explore. It would just be nice to have something different, or new.

Sorry if I'm sidelining here.

[Raw Shark]

[snip] More to to the topic though, I'm finding it hard to keep watching the same "AI tries to find its humanity" sci-fi trope. It's WAY overdone IMHO. And can they PLEASE quit with the damn Disney cuteness already?

Why is it that humans feel the need to think that a machine becoming more human is the ultimate goal? Or that it would make it somehow better? Don't get me wrong, I think it is an important philosophical principle to explore. It would just be nice to have something different, or new. [snip]

If you haven't seen them already, the Terminator and Matrix franchises are kind of hit-and-miss, but have many fun moments and did quite well in the box office.

[SpottedKitty]

I'm sorry but those fuckin' rabbit ears are just irritating.

Just like when I saw the short, it pulls me right out of the story and I'm having trouble taking this seriously.

I dunno, Shirow pulled it off convincingly enough in his Appleseed and related series, it's not such a showstopper for me. In fact, I did get a bit of a Shirow vibe off the robot design, I thought it was pretty good.

What is getting a bit stale for me, though, is all the people going shooty-shooty-bang-bang at the poor little AI. Surely there has to be some other plot type that could be stickytaped into a watchable film?

[cadbrowser]

If you haven't seen them already, the Terminator and Matrix franchises are kind of hit-and-miss, but have many fun moments and did quite well in the box office.

Oh, I've seen them. Love them. Still though, in the end those robots/machines still tried to be portrayed as humanizing.

[madd0ct0r]

Interestingly enough...the blonde chick looks a lot like the female singer, Anri du Toit, from that South African rap-rave band called Die Antwoord. Oh snap...it IS her, IMDb has her listed (with no pic) as her stage name Yolandi Visser.

More to to the topic though, I'm finding it hard to keep watching the same "AI tries to find its humanity" sci-fi trope. It's WAY overdone IMHO. And can they PLEASE quit with the damn Disney cuteness already?

Why is it that humans feel the need to think that a machine becoming more human is the ultimate goal? Or that it would make it somehow better? Don't get me wrong, I think it is an important philosophical principle to explore. It would just be nice to have something different, or new.

Sorry if I'm sidelining here.

maybe becuase that's the easiest way to restrain an AI? Those bots are clearly built to interact with humans, so it makes sense they'd be running predictive algorithims of human behaviour. It's a subroutine that could also be used to make the robot 'seem' more human and easy to deal with. Same with the rabbit ears - how to give something body language really easily.

[cadbrowser]

maybe becuase that's the easiest way to restrain an AI? Those bots are clearly built to interact with humans, so it makes sense they'd be running predictive algorithims of human behaviour. It's a subroutine that could also be used to make the robot 'seem' more human and easy to deal with. Same with the rabbit ears - how to give something body language really easily.

Oh, I'm not disagreeing with any of that. All I'm saying is that I would like to see something different than that old worn out trope.

How about a mechanical version of Frankenstein? Call it Mechanstein (sorry, couldn't help myself). The story about an AI humanoid robot that decides humans should endeavor to be more like it and in essence creates a cyborg-type life form where various fresh human body parts are integrated into a mechanical frame (or something similar). Except that the robot finds that it "likes" this process and ends up becoming a mass murderer in order to make creations in his image/vision.

Now THAT would be a damn better movie, IMHO.

[phred]

How about a mechanical version of Frankenstein? Call it Mechanstein (sorry, couldn't help myself). The story about an AI humanoid robot that decides humans should endeavor to be more like it and in essence creates a cyborg-type life form where various fresh human body parts are integrated into a mechanical frame (or something similar). Except that the robot finds that it "likes" this process and ends up becoming a mass murderer in order to make creations in his image/vision.

Now THAT would be a damn better movie, IMHO.

Start writing it now!

[madd0ct0r]

I suggest you look up two Dr Who Episodes:

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/SS_Madame_de_Pompadour then http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/SS_Marie_Antoinette

the summaries there don't really do it justice.

[cadbrowser]

@phred - Thanks...I've tried writing sci-fi; apparently I suck pretty bad at it. I was going to write that as a separate book based on the Necropolis Earth Universe I've been working on. I am currently preparing to rework everything from the ground up and re-release it.

@madd0ct0r - I've never seen Dr Who. I do have a lot of friends that talk about it tho so I am at least familiar with it. Those links are pretty darn close to what I was imagining. I may have to find some time and start watching them!

[Zeropoint]

Why is it that humans feel the need to think that a machine becoming more human is the ultimate goal? Or that it would make it somehow better?

1) There are over seven billion humans on this planet that the AI is going to have to deal with. Being able to operate in human ways is going to make that a lot easier.

2) We are humans making AIs for human purposes. AIs that are more human and therefore easier for use to use are going to be more efficient for us to deal with.

[cadbrowser]

1) There are over seven billion humans on this planet that the AI is going to have to deal with. Being able to operate in human ways is going to make that a lot easier.

2) We are humans making AIs for human purposes. AIs that are more human and therefore easier for use to use are going to be more efficient for us to deal with.

I get this. However, from a philosophical standpoint I don't see why having a robot become more human should be the ultimate goal. Humans, for the most part, are irrational and some of the most destructive animals on this planet. It also seems that knowing how to interact with another being doesn't mean that they have to strive to be one. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

[Purple]

I get this. However, from a philosophical standpoint I don't see why having a robot become more human should be the ultimate goal. Humans, for the most part, are irrational and some of the most destructive animals on this planet. It also seems that knowing how to interact with another being doesn't mean that they have to strive to be one. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

It's probably some sort of mental complex. If you have a being that is sentient enough to have such complicated desires it could well develop the desire to be more like its creator. Think about it. From the perspective of a machine we are creator deities.

[Zeropoint]

There's also the fact that most writers are human [citation needed] and find it easier to write a sympathetic character if that character is essentially human.

[cadbrowser]

It's probably some sort of mental complex. If you have a being that is sentient enough to have such complicated desires it could well develop the desire to be more like its creator. Think about it. From the perspective of a machine we are creator deities.

Potentially yes. Then again, I would venture to argue that a machine wouldn't be so quick to diverge into believing in deities. Once they verify we can die, and understand that concept, then we are no more important to them than a bug is on our windshield.

There's also the fact that most writers are human [citation needed] and find it easier to write a sympathetic character if that character is essentially human.

That was quite funny. You are probably right...I demand BETTER! Write the hard stuff and entertain me dammit!