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phongn wrote:
RedImperator wrote:Bush is a criminal for going to war with Iraq. Stalin isn't a criminal even though he murdered 20 million people. It's an unjustified generalization to say the left is morally bankrupt, but these guys aren't helping the peace movement's image.
Most people don't know much about ANSWER other than that they're an anti-war group. Plus, their name has an automatic self-defense: "so, you're against ANSWER, eh? So you support racism?"
Just to piss them off, I would say yes.
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Anyone notice how this always happens in either the L.A. area, San Fran area, or NYC area?

Kinda makes you wonder...
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Nathan F wrote:Anyone notice how this always happens in either the L.A. area, San Fran area, or NYC area?

Kinda makes you wonder...
It doesn't really make me wonder. Those areas have higher numbers of left-wingers than other places. It's not exactly a mystery.

Oh, and it's not "San Fran".
And you may ask yourself, 'Where does that highway go to?'

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Nathan F wrote:Anyone notice how this always happens in either the L.A. area, San Fran area, or NYC area?

Kinda makes you wonder...

Becareful, the protests are in SF proper, not in other parts of the Bay Area. There are over 6 million people living here. The protesters causing trouble are few in number. However, for some reason the city of SF attracts these types. They congregate there from other parts. I think part of the reason is that SF tends to have a counter culture atmosphere.
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Ah, peaceniks. Yet another of the branches of humanity that couldn't outsmart a block of granite...
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TrailerParkJawa wrote:
Nathan F wrote:Anyone notice how this always happens in either the L.A. area, San Fran area, or NYC area?

Kinda makes you wonder...

Becareful, the protests are in SF proper, not in other parts of the Bay Area. There are over 6 million people living here. The protesters causing trouble are few in number. However, for some reason the city of SF attracts these types. They congregate there from other parts. I think part of the reason is that SF tends to have a counter culture atmosphere.
Actually, the US Census Bureau considers the San Francisco metropolitan area to consist of over 7 million. But yeah, the majority of the protests occur in SF proper. The protestors are only a fraction of the Bay Area population.

So don't anybody make any hasty generalizations.
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Robert Treder wrote:
Nathan F wrote:Anyone notice how this always happens in either the L.A. area, San Fran area, or NYC area?

Kinda makes you wonder...
It doesn't really make me wonder. Those areas have higher numbers of left-wingers than other places. It's not exactly a mystery.

Oh, and it's not "San Fran".
:p

I am just a lazy SOB who didn't feel like typing Franc... Francis.... Fran... ah, who cares...

<edit: And yes, I was only referring to SF proper, not the surrounding areas. Seems as though large metro areas always give the surrounding area a bad rap...>
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Robert Treder wrote:<snip>But yeah, the majority of the protests occur in SF proper. The protestors are only a fraction of the Bay Area population.

So don't anybody make any hasty generalizations.
Seems as though the popular argument of anti-war people is 'Listen to the people! Nobody wants a war!'. I have heard numerous European people use that statement about Americans. Just goes to show the media bias towards giving the tiny minority of anti-war protestors news time, but never even hinting at the hundreds of pro-war and military support rallys that take place around the country every day, usually with a bigger turnout than the anti-war protests/mobs/riots.

And the media has a right wing bias, ey? Bull...
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What's stupid about the SF protests is that a good number of the protesters aren't even from Frisco. People who purposely block off the streets deserve to get run over.
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Nathan F wrote:Seems as though the popular argument of anti-war people is 'Listen to the people! Nobody wants a war!'.
Both sides have extremists. The peaceniks look at the potential downsides of war (dead Iraqi civilians, increased Middle East strife, possible increase in terrorism, potential loss of American soldiers' lives, very high fiscal penalties, possibility of extended urban combat and lengthy occupation) and not the potential upside. The warmongers look at the potential upsides of war (getting rid of that asshole Hussein, fixing Iraq, and in wet dreams, starting a domino effect that will transform the entire Middle East into a group of secular democracies which respect human rights) and not the potential downsides. People just this side of the extremes look at the other side's points and acknowledge their existence but downplay them to nothing.

And the moderates try to look at both, aren't sure how it will turn out, and end up confused :)
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In Madison Wisconsin the local Republican Party HQ office was attacked and vandalized during the night last night. I actually drove by the place, and the place looked like it was gutted. Damage estimates looked like they would easily run into the thousands of dollars.

here's the local news link, but I've got to add that the damage appeared to be more substancial than what this article described. I could see the paint and everything, but alot of equipment appeared to be damaged as well. Personally, it's pretty hard for me to believe that it wasn't anti-war protesters.

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My brother goes to Wallenberg High, so he has to go through the business district to get to school. He left the house at about 7:30 this morning and got to school around 8:30. Fuckers. Go do something productive! And it's not like all of them are actually San Franciscans. Those bastards should clog up their own streets.
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This might be odd, but does anyone else think of the Blues Brothers when you hear about the protestors. No really. Think about it. You know the part where they roll up on the Nazi people. Then they just drive right through.

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Is there anyone else who goes or went to SJSU besides me and TrailerParkJawa? But anyways, just to let you guys know, one of the campus buildings ( Duncan Hall) recieved a bomb threat earlier today. First it was anthrax, now its bombs. They could of at least done it while i had my calc and physics midterms yesterday.
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Darth Yoshi wrote:My brother goes to Wallenberg High, so he has to go through the business district to get to school. He left the house at about 7:30 this morning and got to school around 8:30. Fuckers. Go do something productive! And it's not like all of them are actually San Franciscans. Those bastards should clog up their own streets.
You see, if all the protestors with no choice but ot actually work after the war is over doesn't start an economic boom, then the people who will actually be able ot get to work on time now that they aren't being blocked by peacenikes will.
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You have my condolences as a former resident of: Taft, Oakland, Berkley, Stockton, Pomona, Eureka, & Mendicino California. I grew up moving around with SDSers and Panthers. Remind me why is it that I still like the dead?
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Oh it's a Grand Thing I live in Queens *not LONG ISLAND QUEENS!!!*. I here shit nothing about those protesters.

At my school, there were talks of the students making an anti-war protest but...only because they want to cut school. :evil: Lazy DUMBFUCKS!!! Luckily it never happened.

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TrailerParkJawa wrote:When I got off work today, I heard about the troubles in San Francisco. A bunch of fucking morons actually took dumps and puked in front of companies in the finance district.
Makes me wish I was a Cop in San Fran so I could do this to
those damn protesters;

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Trying to find an article, but I heard on the TV this morning that one of the protestors in SF fell/jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge last night.
They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong

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They just found a 12 MOLOTOV cocktails in a protester's
backpack....
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MKSheppard wrote:They just found a 12 MOLOTOV cocktails in a protester's
backpack....
For peaceful protesting i assume :lol:
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No, Molotov cocktails are for the low paid service employee's to UNWIND with after a high day of stress.
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Are they the same as the energy drink they sell :lol:
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MKSheppard wrote:They just found a 12 MOLOTOV cocktails in a protester's
backpack....
Yeah. Is it just me, or have the protestors gotten even crazier now that the war has started? Either they all changed, or the smarter ones that nobody has ever stopped a war by waving a sign around.
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