Optimus Prime goes to war!

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-03-20 06:10pm

Remind me again why the Decepticons are pillars of moral standards...

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2003-03-20 09:42pm

Crayz9000 wrote:Remind me again why the Decepticons are pillars of moral standards...

Singular Quartet · Post by **Singular Quartet** » 2003-03-20 09:54pm

Personally, I think Bush should be renamed Ultra Magnus, but that's just me...

In other news, massive firefights have broken out as the Dinobots engaged Devastator, destroying Kirkut in the massive battle. While the Dinobots have been beaten back, Autobot reinforcements have arrived and have begun to engage the Decepticon menace.

Also in other news, a massive object has recently devoured Mars, and has set course for Earth. NASA is rather alarmed, while SETI officials have made the following comment: "Oh, shit."

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-03-20 10:07pm

I suppose our illustrious leader, AdmiralKanos, was feeling a bit famished?

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2003-03-20 11:42pm

Singular Quartet wrote:Personally, I think Bush should be renamed Ultra Magnus, but that's just me...

Personally, I think Bush is more like Grimlock...

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-03-20 11:59pm

No, more like Slag. Grimlok had class.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-03-21 01:20am

Xisiqomelir wrote:
Crayz9000 wrote:Remind me again why the Decepticons are pillars of moral standards...
Sure thing

I see... basically, the same argument used in favor of the Galactic Empire.

Not that there's any problem with that.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2003-03-21 06:39am

Crayz9000 wrote:

Not that there's any problem with that.

Raksha ignores all evidence from the comics and any other evidence that contridicts her own view. I can't believe that she only uses seasons one and two of the cartoon to justify her position since your IQ drops ten points every time you go through those damned episodes.

Singular Quartet · Post by **Singular Quartet** » 2003-03-21 11:25am

phongn wrote:I suppose our illustrious leader, AdmiralKanos, was feeling a bit famished?

Just a mite.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-03-21 03:17pm

VF5SS wrote:Raksha ignores all evidence from the comics and any other evidence that contridicts her own view. I can't believe that she only uses seasons one and two of the cartoon to justify her position since your IQ drops ten points every time you go through those damned episodes.

Well, you can make a case for almost any villain. That doesn't mean that the case is completely accurate, nor does it mean that the case is completely inaccurate.

The Autobots can be extremely annoying at times, usually when they make decisions that have bases on shaky morals. Take G1 comic #53; the two Autobots refuse to take the microchips that can repair their companions, and tell the Mechannibals, who have proved untrustworthy in the past to rebuild the robots they've taken the chips from. Nevermind that the scavengers are more likely to sell the chips to the next bidder, and that the chips would be of more use to the galaxy's inhabitants if the Autobots were able to repair themselves.

Of course, the Decepticons aren't exactly brilliant themselves. Rather than simply going to the Moon and building a solar energy converter--certainly not out of the reach of their technology--they engage in foolhardy schemes to take the energy resources of Earth. And when they are given the chance to get an operational nuclear reactor, which could supply them with plenty of energy, they don't bother learning how it works and instead build a castle out of it.

Posbi · Post by **Posbi** » 2003-03-21 03:37pm

Montcalm wrote:I wonder if this Optimus Prime can fold into a truck

Well, he damn sure can be folded by a truck...

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2003-03-22 06:30am

VF5SS wrote: Raksha ignores all evidence from the comics and any other evidence that contridicts her own view. I can't believe that she only uses seasons one and two of the cartoon to justify her position since your IQ drops ten points every time you go through those damned episodes.

Mmm? G1 Transformers is the REAL Transformers, and Beast Wars/Robots in Disguise etc are not. Raksha is admittedly pro-Con, but criticizing her for ignoring those terrible other series perpetrated under the name of Transformers isn't right.

Note that this isn't at all like the Star Wars EU, apart from G1 Transformers, everything else is a different story about different characters set in a different place.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-03-22 06:54am

Errr ... people actually take sides in Transformers? Good God.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-03-22 08:39am

Crayz9000 wrote:Remind me again why the Decepticons are pillars of moral standards...

If they where, I wouldn't be rooting for them

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-03-22 08:41am

Vympel wrote:Errr ... people actually take sides in Transformers? Good God.

God is dead.
And why not it's whats it's all about, just like how people take sides in Star Wars, Empire or Rebels, or trek or wars.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-03-22 09:37am

His Divine Shadow wrote:
God is dead.
And why not it's whats it's all about, just like how people take sides in Star Wars, Empire or Rebels, or trek or wars.

To be honest I always thought pro-bad guyism was a uniquely SW phenonmenon- at least in comparison to Transformers- like come on, how much room for interpretation could there be, especially as this person is basing it off *cartoons*?

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-03-22 09:48am

I don't see the difference, it's a series, it's not real, it's the same thing in other words, please don't look down on others given that stuff happens regularly here thats far beyond that article.

DarthBlight · Post by **DarthBlight** » 2003-03-22 09:58am

Vympel wrote: To be honest I always thought pro-bad guyism was a uniquely SW phenonmenon- at least in comparison to Transformers- like come on, how much room for interpretation could there be, especially as this person is basing it off *cartoons*?

Actually, I was a big fan of the bad guys in some of my old cartoons. Namely in He-Man, Transformers, and G.I. Joe. The bad guys were just so much cooler. A little more I.Q. definitely, but the concepts were sweet.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2003-03-22 10:00am

Xisiqomelir wrote:Mmm? G1 Transformers is the REAL Transformers, and Beast Wars/Robots in Disguise etc are not.

The real Transformers? The real Transformers are Diaclone and Microchange

Everything under the TF brand name is a Transformer. Deal with it.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2003-03-22 10:34am

VF5SS wrote:
Xisiqomelir wrote:Mmm? G1 Transformers is the REAL Transformers, and Beast Wars/Robots in Disguise etc are not.
The real Transformers? The real Transformers are Diaclone and Microchange Everything under the TF brand name is a Transformer. Deal with it.

Infinities is "Star Wars Infinities" but how many people consider that the real Star Wars? Raksha writes about what people commonly accept as the real Transformers, the G1 television series. Even if Hasbro had some continuity policy which gave Beast Wars equal canonicity as G1, I'd anashamedly ignore such a policy.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2003-03-22 11:21am

We're not talking about Star Wars. Lucas can do his own shit, but as far as Hasbro and Takara are concerned, anything they promote as Transformers are the real Transformers. The G1 cartoon isn't any more real than any other part of the franchise.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-03-23 03:38am

Megatron Rules!!!!!

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-03-23 04:06am

Darth Wong wrote:Megatron Rules!!!!!

Size twenty text and five exclamation points: When logic just won't cut it.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-03-23 04:17am

Well He's in good company, the Lucasfilm Insider has already pointed out that there is a Navy pilot who changed his name to "Wedge Antilles" and his call sign to Wedge's.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-03-23 05:53pm

Darth Wong wrote:Megatron Rules!!!!!

This is a good place for this pic too: