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Captain Jack · Post by **Captain Jack** » 2003-03-11 08:24pm

Bullshit.
Banning toy rockets does not stop or hinder terrorists, simple "innocent" chemicals can be used in making explosives. Various groups is Palestine have been doing this for years.
The ban on toy rockets will only punish the innocent.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-03-11 08:37pm

Doing stuff like banning rockets won't help stop terrorism.

And to Axis Kat: Model rockets are like cartooning and fictional literature. We can do without them, but we don't want the right to do those things taken away from us.

And before you say cartooning and fiction are not as dangerous as rockets, cartoons and fictional works can be used as political weapons.

Axis Kast · Post by **Axis Kast** » 2003-03-11 08:41pm

As far as I can tell, the law calls for permits. Through those, the transport and use of model rockets will be retarded but not necessary prevented entirely. It is hardly a death sentence for those who enjoy the hobby - merely an added precaution.

Captain Jack · Post by **Captain Jack** » 2003-03-11 08:42pm

Good point Shinova.
Axis Kast, the fuel in model rockets is not intended to explode but produce a large volume of gas at high presure over a period of time.

Captain Jack · Post by **Captain Jack** » 2003-03-11 08:46pm

Axis Kast wrote:As far as I can tell, the law calls for permits. Through those, the transport and use of model rockets will be retarded but not necessary prevented entirely. It is hardly a death sentence for those who enjoy the hobby - merely an added precaution.

*sigh*
It adds cost and can make it too expensive for blokes like me.

Shaka[Zulu] · Post by **Shaka[Zulu]** » 2003-03-12 02:26am

not to mention Axis, that 'retarding' these hobby activities in this fashion is potentially far more damaging, as we are talking about the effective destruction of an entire industry that supplies these items -- the economy is bad enough as it is.

come to think of it there are a number of other activities that could be used for terrorist purposes -- private airplanes, ultralights, hang gliders, paragliders... what about those industries? you might as well say that if it flies (by whatever means/for whatever purpose) and is not owned and operated by/for either corporate or governmental interests, that it is 'something we can do without' and regulate it out of existence. might as well extend that to privately owned boats too, cause they can be used to smuggle terrorists and their gear.

think about it... the airlines would just LOVE regs that got rid of all those pesky private planes clogging THEIR airspace... the military/govt would love it too -- no more having to worry about private citizens overflying restricted airspace, anybody who wants to go anywhere outside the country (or is coming back in from outside) can be easily bottlenecked within a few portal facilities, becuase they can only use airliners/cruiseliners to go by sea... things only get worse from here. you can say goodbye to a number of industries... no more burt rutans, no more goddards... no more teslas.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2003-03-19 01:09am

If I was a terrorist I would be laughing my arse off at how many freedoms I've managed to erode.

Think about it, if you were a terrorist would you bemoan the lack of bottle rockets or would you run off and wire someone important's car to explode?

Dodge · Post by **Dodge** » 2003-03-21 02:37am

They'll be banning kitchen knives next...