Shooting in Denmark (possibly Islamic terrorism again...)

[TimothyC]

Reports are that they have the guy after he tried to go home following the second shooting.

[Lord Revan]

He's not saying that European countries will officially embrace Sharia law, but that insular Muslim communities in Europe institute de facto Sharia law (or at least perhaps a less strict form of it), and that this problem is growing.

Although the general phenomenon of cultural enclaves instituting their own de facto laws/norms within the confines of a larger society is hardly unique to Muslims, it's just that Sharia law in particular is so vehemently antithetical to general Western values.

Then he should bloody well word it in such a way that it doesn't sound like the ignorant rantings of the the american right wing about how "the muslims are gonna take over Europe!"

there's problems with muslim communities having customs that don't mesh with local laws here sure but it's a far cry from them having any real power outside of those communities.

[Channel72]

So the police killed the suspected shooter.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31475803

Police in Copenhagen say they have shot dead a man they believe was behind two deadly attacks in the Danish capital hours earlier.

Police say they killed the man in the Norrebro district after he opened fire on them.

It came after one person was killed and three police officers injured at a free speech debate in a cafe on Saturday.

In the second attack, a Jewish man was killed and two police officers wounded near the city's main synagogue.

Police say video surveillance suggested the same man carried out both attacks. They do not believe any other people were involved.

The head of Danish intelligence said investigators were working on the theory that the gunman could have been inspired by the shootings in Paris last month.

Jens Madsen told reporters the man had been identified and had been on the agency's radar for some time.

Police were working to determine whether the man had travelled to Syria or Iraq, he said.

Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt said it was "a very sad morning" and described the shootings as "a cynical act of terror against Denmark".

"We do not know the motive for the alleged perpetrator's actions, but we know that there are forces that want to hurt Denmark. They want to rebuke our freedom of speech,'' she said, according to the Associated Press.

Ms Thorning-Schmidt later visited the synagogue and said Denmark would do everything to protect its Jewish community.

On Saturday a gunman attacked a free-speech debate hosted by controversial Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks.

One man - identified by Danish media as film director Finn Norgaard, 55 - was killed and and three police officers wounded.

Officials said the gunman fled by car. A black Volkswagen Polo was found abandoned a short distance away.

Police said the gunman then called a taxi to take him home.

They used information from the taxi driver to identify the address, near the railway station in Norrebro. They released photos showing the alleged attacker wearing a purple balaclava and thick puffer jacket.

Hours later, a gunman opened fire outside a synagogue in Krystalgade street, about 5km from the scene of the first attack, killing a Jewish man and wounding two police officers.

The victim was named as Dan Uzan, 37. He had been on security duty while a bat mitzvah ceremony was taking place inside the synagogue.

Early on Sunday, police said they had been keeping the Norrebro address under observation, waiting for the occupant to return.

When the man appeared, he saw the officers, pulled out a gun and opened fire, police said. They returned fire and shot him dead.

There doesn't seem to be much more information forthcoming regarding the shooter's motivations or identity. Let's assume generic pissed-off Jihadist #354372.

Then again, given the recent wave of anti-Semitism in parts of Denmark/Sweden, who knows.

[Edi]

He was born in Denmark, his parents were immigrants. Numerous run-ins with the law previously, including jail time for various crimes. Had become radicalized sometime in the past year or two. The shooter had expressed a desire to go to Syria to fight in the ISIS ranks, but there was no actual affiliation yet (as in, he had not joined the group).

So, a lone wolf in terms of MO.

The Danish police did arrest two people suspected of being accomplices (help in preparing the attacks, obtaining a firearm etc.). No doubt there will be more news later today. There wil probably be a delay of one or two days for the news to hit the English language media unless there are English versions of local Danish media.

[cosmicalstorm]

The lone wolf was given a hero's farewell at a local mosque with thousands attendig the friday prayer and hundreds attending the funeral shouting Allah Akbar.

http://politiken.dk/indland/fokus_danma ... entatmand/

[Eleas]

"Flere til stede ved moskeen pegede på, at Omar Abdel Hamid el-Hussein havde en stor bekendtskabskreds. De gav udtryk for, at uanset hvad man har gjort, så fortjener man en muslimsk begravelse, hvis det er familiens ønske."

Allow me to apply Google Translate.

"Several present at the mosque indicated that Omar Abdel Hamid el - Hussein had a large circle of acquaintances. They feel that no matter what you've done, you deserve a Muslim funeral, if the family wishes."

So no, neither that nor the expression "Allah Akbar" means approval of his actions. Your claim of "a hero's farewell" is thus misleading.

[cosmicalstorm]

Of course, they were simply old friends who mourned his tragic passing. It's not like their presence indicate approval of what he did or anything like that.

If a neo nazi went on a killing spree in a suburb and hundreds of right wingish people, many in actual nazi garments, showed up chanting on his funeral that would also not indicate support or anything like that. Suuuuure

[Alyrium Denryle]

Of course, they were simply old friends who mourned his tragic passing. It's not like their presence indicate approval of what he did or anything like that.

If a neo nazi went on a killing spree in a suburb and hundreds of right wingish people, many in actual nazi garments, showed up chanting on his funeral that would also not indicate support or anything like that. Suuuuure

If garments appropriate to a muslim funeral means the same thing as Nazi Garments (and since when are street clothes the equivalent of Nazi uniforms?), and praying in Arabic is the same as singing the Horst-Wessel-Lied. You bigoted shitbrick.

Allah Akbar is the central component of muslim prayers. It gets chanted 5 times a day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe8qRj12OhY

[cosmicalstorm]

Yeah I guess I'm just being a paranoid racist here speculating about the opinions of those who came to pay the martyr their respects.

Op mod halvdelen af de omtrent 500 deltagere, der alle er mænd, har maskeret deres ansigter med jakker eller tørklæder.

Many masked their faces, everyone were men.

Flere retter deres pegefingre mod himlen, mens andre slår sig for brystet med en knyttet næve. De fleste er tavse.

Some held their fingers to the sky, other banged their chest with their fists.

- Det, som mange ikke forstår, er, at man elsker profeten Muhammed højere end sin familie. Derfor er det så provokerende, når han bliver tegnet, siger den anden unge mand.

One man expressed understanding for the murders, clearly anyone who insults the prophet is performing a very provocative act.

Some men who clearly do not agree with the killing of infidels:





http://jyllands-posten.dk/indland/ECE74 ... -tilgives/

Meanwhile this is a statement from after the Sydney attacks

SYDNEY’S chief Islamic *funeral director yesterday declared no Muslim funeral home would accept the body of terrorist Man Haron Monis and authorities should just dump his corpse at sea or “chuck him in the bloody shithouse”.

[cosmicalstorm]

Anyone wanna take bets that someone attending that funeral will not show up in another "lone wolf" attack the next year?

[Alyrium Denryle]

Yeah I guess I'm just being a paranoid racist here speculating about the opinions of those who came to pay the martyr their respects.

If it were just this thread? I would not conclude that.

But given your track record. Yes. Yes you are.

[madd0ct0r]

I'll take that bet.

Many masked their faces, everyone were men.
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- in feburary no less! even the photographers from the media were wearing scarves, it's all a conspiracy!

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Flere retter deres pegefingre mod himlen, mens andre slår sig for brystet med en knyttet næve. De fleste er tavse.
Some held their fingers to the sky, other banged their chest with their fists.

Dude, try going to an irish funeral. Also, why did you leave that 2nd sentance out of your translation? Did it not fit your narrative? (it says 'Most were silent')

- Det, som mange ikke forstår, er, at man elsker profeten Muhammed højere end sin familie. Derfor er det så provokerende, når han bliver tegnet, siger den anden unge mand.


One man expressed understanding for the murders, clearly anyone who insults the prophet is performing a very provocative act.

Would you like a list of newspaper articles in the west expressing understanding for the Charlie Hebdo attacks? How many? six enough?
understanding =/= condoning or agreeing, but it's a marvellous weasel word to twist things to whichever view you wish. It's also a subtle enough phrase I'd hesitate to trust google translate with it.