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ORLANDO, Fla. (Reuters) - Climate change activists blasted Florida Governor Rick Scott on Monday for leading an "Orwellian" campaign to ban employees of the state's lead environmental agency from using such terms as “global warming” and “climate change.”

Despite coastal Florida's vulnerability to storm surges and rising sea levels, the state’s Department of Environmental Protection was directed in 2011 not to use the phrases in official communications, according to a report by the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting.

“This is embarrassing, but worse than that, it’s very worrying,” said David Hastings, a marine science professor from Eckerd College in St. Petersburg, on Florida's west coast.

“To have this authoritarian word control is very Orwellian, a page right out of 'Nineteen Eighty-Four,'” he said, referring to George Orwell's dystopian novel about widespread government surveillance.

The governor's office and the Department of Environmental Protection denied there was a policy banning the terms. "There is no policy and it simply is not true," said Scott's deputy communications director, John Tupps.

Former employees of the department detailed the unwritten policy in interviews with the non-profit news agency, which reported the ban on Sunday.

Employees were told not to use the phrases ‘climate change,’ ‘global warming,’ 'sea level rise,' or ‘sustainability,’ attorney Christopher Byrd, who worked with the department's Office of General Counsel from 2008 to 2013, confirmed to Reuters.

"Nobody questioned it. There was just a lot of snickers and internal chuckling," Byrd said.

The euphemism suggested to employees for “sea level rise” was “coastal resiliency,” he said.

The prohibition began after the election of Scott, who had disputed the human impact on climate change during his 2010 campaign, according to the report.

Concerns about climate change are widely voiced by research scientists, but questioned by conservative Republicans who oppose controls on carbon emissions blamed for causing environmental damage.

Hastings was one of five climate scientists who were granted a half-hour meeting with Scott in August 2014 in which they warned him of the threat posed by a steadily rising ocean.

Harvey Ruvin, who chaired a sea level rise task force in Miami that delivered its findings last year, told Reuters it was important for Florida, with about 1,000 miles (1,600 km) of coastline, to put politics aside on the climate change issue.

“It would be very nice if we could resolve problems simply by eliminating their titles from the dictionary,” he said.

(Additional reporting by David Adams and Zachary Fagenson in Miami; Writing by Letitia Stein; Editing by Doina Chiacu, Bernadette Baum and Mohammad Zargham)
So nothing new here, apparently this has been going on since 2011, but only now someones started talking about.
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So the state most likely to be under water in 30-50 years has taken an official position of Climate Change denialism. Beautiful.
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I am gonna miss the Florida Keys; they really are beautiful. I suppose I should visit them at least one more time before they vanish, or at least, until they severely shrink.
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On the upside, the rising ocean levels will eventually take care of the "Florida" problem, if not entirely then certainly to a substantial degree.

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This seems relevant...



Usually, the ones actually endangered by global warming are the ones frantically trying to get the other to listen. Strange to have it happen the other way 'round.
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North Carolina did something similar. Aside from the general Republican Party hostility towards the issue of climate change, I assume the Florida state government is also in deep denial and afraid that any news of climate change will discourage outside investments in the tourism and coastal real estate businesses.
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Broomstick wrote:On the upside, the rising ocean levels will eventually take care of the "Florida" problem, if not entirely then certainly to a substantial degree.

The spirit of "Baghdad Bob" lives on....
No, it'll make the Florida problem much worse! The things that live down there will move to other states where us actual humans live!
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Broomstick wrote:On the upside, the rising ocean levels will eventually take care of the "Florida" problem, if not entirely then certainly to a substantial degree.

The spirit of "Baghdad Bob" lives on....
No, it'll make the Florida problem much worse! The things that live down there will move to other states where us actual humans live!
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Pardon my being serious, but...

Are you familiar with the (lack of) internal migration restrictions that are found in a civilized country?
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Simon_Jester wrote:Pardon my being serious, but...
I wasn't. So you'll pardon me if I don't take replying to you too seriously either.
Are you familiar with the (lack of) internal migration restrictions that are found in a civilized country?
Extraordinary times require extraordinary measures and all that. :P
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You know what? I think every state that passes laws like this (I believe FL is the third, the other 2 being NC and LO) should be denied federal disaster assistance. I'm not saying that the citizens aren't helped by FEMA right after the storm with no conditions, but to receive money to rebuild they should have to do so in a place over sea level currently and that will not be threatened by coastal flooding for roughly 100 years. And give them a 10% bonus if they move out of state. Then send the ruined state a bill.
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Damnit Flordia, stop giving Stephen Harper ideas!
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Though maybe after southern Florida secede.
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It's too bad they are the ones who are going to be underwater, because the south and I-4 corridor are the most liberal parts of the state. Unfortunately all the rednecks and deep southern "5 cars on lawn with 8 shoeless kids running around half naked" deliverance types up in north Florida will all be nice and dry. May not have any fresh water to drink when the springs start shitting out salt water, though. :twisted:

Still, a FL civil war would be pretty funny... "I was there, Billy. Through the whole thing... We knew we were finished when the tanks came through Space Mountain. On that day, after 3 months of fighting the battle of the Magic Kingdom was over, and that's how granddad lost his legs..."
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Perhaps you've been following all of the insane tornado of coverage about Gov. Rick Scott's climate-change denial, or maybe you're just too busy drowning in Miami. The gist is that Scott has told various employees of various state agencies that "climate change" is not a thing, nor is "sustainability," nor is "sea-level rise," though "climate variability" might be, he guesses. Of course he's no scientist, as he's admitted to nobody's surprise. He's just a simple businessman with the largest Medicare fraud case on record.

While it seemed that at first the administration was interested in some damage control, the damage only continues to get worse. A report from yesterday's Palm Beach Post describes the depth of this conservative paranoia machine. Things have gone from Bloggytown to Crazytown. Scott reportedly ordered longtime employee of the Florida Department of Environmental Protection to take time off and seek professional mental treatment for using the term "climate change" in reference to the failed Keystone XL Pipeline project, according to the group Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility.

"The complaint says that on March 9, Barton Bibler, a longtime worker for the Florida Department of Environmental Protection, got a letter of reprimand, was ordered to take two days leave and then was told not to return until he had medical clearance of his fitness for duty," the Post reports.

What the fuck?

PEER responded to Scott's actions thusly, says the Post:

“If anyone needs mental health screening it is Governor Rick Scott and other officials telling state workers to pretend that climate change and sea-level rise do not exist.”

We wish we could say that this would tarnish Scott's alleged plan for a U.S. Senate run, but who are we kidding? In Florida, he's just adding some more idiocy seasoning to the suffrage pot. Gotta boil that base!
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I'd feel bad for the taxpayers of FL for the millions they will be forced to pay this (former?) employee when he sues the everloving shit out of the state, but frankly, they keep electing the motherfucker so fuck them. The new Slogan for Florida should be "Welcome to the Sunshi- glug glug glug..." Or: "We Used to Be Mostly Above Water!" :lol:
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Wired really drives it home...

FLORIDA AND THE SCIENCE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED
THE OCEANS ARE slowly overtaking Florida. Ancient reefs of mollusk and coral off the present-day coasts are dying. Annual extremes in hot and cold, wet and dry, are becoming more pronounced. Women and men of science have investigated, and a great majority agree upon a culprit. In the outside world, this culprit has a name, but within the borders of Florida, it does not. According to a Miami Herald investigation, the state Department of Environmental Protection has since 2010 had an unwritten policy prohibiting the use of some well-understood phrases for the meteorological phenomena slowly drowning America’s weirdest-shaped state. It’s … that thing where burning too much fossil fuel puts certain molecules into a certain atmosphere, disrupting a certain planetary ecosystem. You know what we’re talking about. We know you know. They know we know you know. But are we allowed to talk about … you know? No. Not in Florida. It must not be spoken of. Ever.

Unless … you could, maybe, type around it? It’s worth a shot.

The cyclone slowdown
It has been nine years since Florida was hit by a proper hurricane. Could that be a coincidence? Sure. Or it could be because of … something. A nameless, voiceless something. A feeling, like a pricking-of-thumbs, this confluence-of-chemistry-and-atmospheric-energy-over-time. If so, this anonymous dreadfulness would, scientists say, lead to a drier middle layer of atmosphere over the ocean. Because water vapor stores energy, this dry air will suffocate all but the most energetic baby storms. “So the general thinking, is that that as [redacted] levels increase, it ultimately won’t have an effect on the number of storms,” says Jim Kossin, a scientist who studies, oh, how about “things-that-happen-in-the-atmosphere-over-long-time-periods” at the National Centers for Environmental Information. “However, there is a lot of evidence that if a storm does form, it has a chance of getting very strong.”

Storms darken the sky
Hurricanes are powered by energy in the sea. And as cold and warm currents thread around the globe, storms go through natural, decades-long cycles of high-to-low intensity. “There is a natural 40-to-60-year oscillation in what sea surface temperatures are doing, and this is driven by ocean-wide currents that move on very slow time scales,” says Kossin, who has authored reports for the Intergovernmental Panel on, well, let’s just call it Chemical-and-Thermodynamic-Alterations-to-Long-Term-Atmospheric-Conditions. But in recent years, storms have become stronger than that natural cycle would otherwise predict. Kossin says that many in his field agree that while the natural churning of the ocean is behind this increasing intensity, other forces are at work. Darker, more sinister forces, like thermodynamics. Possibly even chemistry. No one knows for sure. Anyway, storms are getting less frequent, but stronger. It’s an eldritch tale of unspeakable horror, maybe.

The oceans rise against the land
If you look close enough, and long enough, at any of Florida’s beaches, you’re going to see the same peculiar pattern. At Fernandina Beach, on the Atlantic coast just south of the Georgia state line, high tides have lapped an average of 9 inches higher since 1897. In Pensacola, the Gulf Coast city bordering Alabama, they’ve risen 7 inches since 1923. And all the way south, at the tip of Key West, high tides since 1913 have crept up 8 inches.

In low, flat Florida, those added few inches can stretch for miles. Almost 2.5 million people in the state live within four feet of current high tide marks. And as the density of atomic-scale-phenomena-capable-of-storing-and-redistributing-thermal-energy increases, glaciers and ice sheets in the high latitudes will continue to deliquesce. And trickling meltwater is only half the problem. Molecules imbued with thermal energy take up more space, and oceans swell when their thermal profile is raised by an in-cycling of … um … wait a second … oh! Got it: anthropogenically-released-molecules-composed-of-two-oxygen-atoms-double-covalently-bonded-to-an-atom-of-the-element-with-atomic-number-six.

Water seeps into the ground
The ocean isn’t just creeping on shore, it’s seeping in underground. “Southern Florida is built on bedrock that’s porous, like a hard sponge,” says Ben Strauss, a senior scientist with Climate Central (Disclosure: I interned with Climate Central). As the accumulation-of-bonded-chemical-particles-that-absorb-energy-with-wavelengths-greater-than-four-thousand-nanometers increases the ocean’s volume, more water will seep into Florida’s underground aquifers. Eventually, they’ll become undrinkable. Many southern Florida towns are already eying well sites further inland.

But before the wells turn salty, the state’s southern coastal cities will get drowned. Florida uses a complicated system of gravity-drained pipes to flush rain water out to sea. But with the sea level rise, there’s not enough difference in elevation to empty them. In heavy storms, this backflow leads to flooding. Last year, Miami Beach’s storm water system got backed up and flooded. Since then, the city has spent millions of dollars installing pumps to make up for the loss of gravity-powered drainage. A recent study showed that half of southern Florida’s drainage capacity would be disabled if further concentrations of the-gaseous-agent-known-to-store-energy-and-slowly-release-it-over-time were to cause just 6 more inches of sea level rise, even though this is an almost certain outcome of science published in publicly funded, well respected, peer-reviewed journals found in universities and libraries all over the planet. Also on the Internet, which will likely have to route around Florida in coming years.

Acidification
Florida is losing its coral and shellfish reefs. Now, to be completely fair, not all of Florida’s problems are directly related to the elevated levels of … oh, hell. A-gas-formed-from-one-molecule-with-atomic-weight-of-twelve-point-zero-one-one-bonded-with-two-molecules-of-atomic-weight-fifteen-point-nine-nine-nine in the atmosphere1. Some of the trouble comes directly from the land. “In places like Florida you have high runoff pollution levels, and that changes the waters much more quickly than global acidification models would suggest,” says Lisa Suatori, a senior scientist with the National Resources Defense Council. This starts with nitrogen-rich drainage coming off farms, sewage, and acres of over-fertilized golf courses. This massive outflow of nitrogen feeds algae, which breed and eventually die. Bacteria gobble up their carcasses, breed, and exhale massive concentrations of an unrecovered-gaseous-byproduct-of-metabolic-activity. This gas dissolves in the water, turning it acidic and inhospitable to coral.

Madness across the state
Matricide, cannibalism, and man-eating wildlife are rampant in Florida, but none of that stuff is caused by the Science which Dare Not Speak Its Name. A lot of other weird stuff happens in Florida, too. But at least they’re allowed to talk about it.

1. Correction 3:58 EST 03/17/2015 The original text described C2O, an uninteresting molecule not likely to end up on anyone’s no-talk list.
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