China's carbon emissions DECREASED in 2014

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China's carbon emissions DECREASED in 2014

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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-31689722
China eyes fundamental shift in energy policy
John Sudworth
By John Sudworth
BBC News, Shanghai

In 1983, the year before the coal miners' strike - one of the most bitter industrial disputes in British history - the UK produced 119 million tonnes of coal.

Production would never reach that level again, with the strike heralding the long slow decline of an industry they once called King Coal.

Thirty years later, China's growth in coal consumption - just its growth - was not far off the UK's 1983 total output.

In 2013, China consumed an extra 93 million tonnes of the stuff.

That amount - a mountain of the black fuel that would at one time have kept the best part of a quarter of a million British miners in work - represented only a 2.6% increase in China's seemingly insatiable appetite for coal.

Like Britain, China's industrial revolution has been coal-powered, but it has been on a scale and speed like nothing else in world history, bringing with it serious environmental implications.

China surpassed the United States to become the biggest emitter of greenhouse gases in 2007 and, if that trajectory is followed, it is well on track to double US emission levels within the next few years.

For anyone, anywhere worried about climate change, China has become the problem, and with the country opening a new coal-fired power station on average every week, it is a problem that has looked likely to simply grow and grow.

'Peak coal'
Except that the recently released figures for 2014 suggest that something very interesting may now be happening.

Rather than another giant increase in coal consumption, for the first time in 15 years, government data shows that China's annual coal consumption declined by 2.9%, with an accompanying 1% fall in carbon dioxide emissions.

Rather than never-ending growth, all the talk now is of "peak coal", the moment when China begins to wean itself off fossil fuels.

And some analysts believe, on the basis of that 2014 figure, the moment may well have already arrived.

"It's quite possible," says Wang Tao, an expert on climate and energy policy at the Carnegie-Tsinghua Centre for Global Policy in Beijing.

"I wouldn't say 100% sure, but given what we're seeing in the heavy industries and the direction that China is trying to drive its economy, I don't think we're going to see a dramatic change and coal consumption back up again."

Other analysts are a little more cautious, but almost all agree that peak coal, if it hasn't yet arrived, is closer than anyone previously thought.

And while some of it may be down to simple economic factors - the now well-documented slowdown in Chinese growth in recent years - there is wide recognition that a significant shift in Chinese environmental policy is also playing a part.

According to Wang Tao, one in every four units of power generated now comes from wind, solar or hydro plants, and a new debate has begun, focusing not on the need to build more renewable energy plants, but on how to best utilise this new and still rapidly growing resource.

"We have to make sure that people have the incentives to continue to invest in these renewables, and also that consumers will be able to know and to choose wisely in terms of what kind of electricity they consume, and also change their behaviour," he says.

And where once everyone spoke about the huge vested interests in China's fossil fuel-powered sectors, many believe the government is starting to take them on.

"In Hubei Province," Li Yan says, "we are observing very bold and firm action to close down the dirtiest fleet of the iron, steel and cement sector, even at the cost of temporary job losses.

"I think that's a painful process, but it's also a demonstration of how important the air pollution agenda is in this region."

Greenpeace's great fear had once been that China was preparing for a huge shift towards coal gasification projects - rather than using coal directly to fuel power plants, using it to produce natural gas.

While the end product may be cleaner, critics argue that the industrial processes involved in the conversion emit more greenhouse gases and have other serious environmental impacts, like the huge amount of water consumed.

But even here, there appear to be signs of a bit of a rethink going on.

China's state-run media has cited an unnamed policymaker as saying that while the country will complete the construction of already approved coal-to-natural-gas plants, it will not approve new ones, at least until 2020.

New direction
It is of course much too early to suggest that China is turning its back on King Coal.

The fuel will make up the majority of its energy sector well into the next decade, a period over which it will continue to burn well over 3 billion tonnes of it every year.

But even as new power plants come on stream, it seems likely that - if it hasn't already happened - very soon the overall reliance on coal will begin to decrease and more and more of those new plants will be forced to operate below capacity.

If the slowdown in economic growth becomes more serious and sustained, then some environmentalists believe we could yet see the Chinese government lurch for another bout of stimulus spending, pouring money into the big energy-intensive industries and sparking another coal boom.

But for now, there are signs that China's unbearable air has become the catalyst for at least the beginnings of a fundamental change in direction.
And in further news carbon emissions in 2014 have flatlined while at the same time world economic growth was still at 3%.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomzeller/2 ... omy-grows/
The IEA pegged carbon dioxide emissions for 2014 at 32.3 billion metric tons — essentially the same volume as 2013, even as the global economy grew at a rate of about 3 percent.
This is quite promising stuff. Of course the whiners in Australia will find some other excuse. To recap it was

1. China, India, Europe and US aren't taxing carbon emissions, why are we?
Except China, India and Europe do in one form or another, either as a direct tax or emissions trading scheme and they did it BEFORE we did.

2. China and the US aren't pledging to cut down carbon emissions, why should we?
Except both countries did, last year.

3. Doesn't matter, because China won't start cutting down until years later?
Except it reduced by 1% in 2014.

I wonder what their next excuse would be? Why don't they just come out and say they don't believe in climate change because they are too god damn stupid to understand empiricism and science.
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Because they clearly do believe in climate change, or they would just say they don't. What they are saying is that they don't care about climate change, they see the need for cheap energy and fuel-consuming processes as more important.
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jwl wrote:Because they clearly do believe in climate change, or they would just say they don't.
Or they don't, but realise its harder for them to debate the science because they don't understand it. Its easier to say "ah, but they aren't doing it." The Liberal party is a case in point where members admit "the science isn't settled," and simultaneously point to others not doing it. However they now tend to focus on the latter for the reasons stated.
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Put it this way. Climate change is something that at its worst is going to really screw your nation over in a few administrations. A carbon tax meanwhile is a measure that is going to be unpopular today. Saving the world at the expense of living standards does not get you reelection points.
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My energy bill was high with the carbon tax.
My energy bill is still high without the carbon tax.

The only question I ever had about carbon tax and other schemes is what is actually done with the revenue raised.
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no matter what you believe in regards to CC, not smoging up your cities is always a plus.
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Isn't another point in regards to China is the fact that they have shut down industries to reduce smog levels at times despite growth?
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They have done so, especially where they have concluded they have overcapacity, eg some steel makers. However the final figure on power generation gives the whole view.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/j ... r-24-years
In another sign of slowing growth, China’s total power generation rose 3.2% in 2014, the NBS said, the slowest growth rate in 16 years.
So for power generation to increase by 3.2%, but carbon emissions haven't changed by the same amount (in fact decreases) must mean that China is using less carbon intensive methods of generation. These includes hydro, solar, wind, nuclear and more efficient coal stations ie emits less carbon emissions per unit of energy generated. Hydro is the big one in the renewable with the Three Gorges Dam generating record amounts of power in 2014.

In other words, shutting down industry can't explain it all because total power generation still increased despite this.
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