BREAKING NEWS ONLY

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-03-21 06:07pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Howedar wrote:Is anyone besides me a little perturbed at how well this is all going?
Everyone knew all along that the invasion would effortlessly sweep through the outlying areas. Saddam pulled all his quality forces back into Baghdad, where he obviously plans to make a stand. At this point, what happens will depend on whether the people around him can organize a coup, and whether his "elite" Republican Guard choose to be smart instead of fanatical.

Well, yeah. I expected the desert to be abandoned. It just bugs me how these port cities were taken with zero casualties. What is the saying, plans never survive first contact with the enemy?

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-03-21 06:24pm

According to Sky News the Turks have sent troops in...

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-03-21 06:28pm

Oh crud. Just what we didn't want.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-03-21 06:33pm

It says small units have crossed into Iraq now.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-03-21 06:38pm

Crazy_Vasey wrote:According to Sky News the Turks have sent troops in...

Things will get interesting now. My guess is that we'll tell them both to play nice and turn away from that area -- that fight was going to materialize sooner or later anyway...

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-03-21 06:40pm

According to sky news on the TV 1500 Turkish troops have crossed the border.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-03-21 06:43pm

Btw, the Dow Jones was at its highest point in 20 years today. Also, the price of oil went down a dollar.

Go economic recovery!

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-03-21 06:44pm

Darth Fanboy wrote:The New York Times is reporting a top Iraqi commander just surrendered to US Marines.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,3 ... 40,00.html

Commander of the Iraqi 51st division. Not sure yet if the troops are surrendering with him though I think.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-03-21 06:45pm

There is a marked difference between the uncertainty of looming war and the act of war itself. So long as the US and British forces appear to be heading toward a swift and decisive victory, and so long as civilian casualties are kept relatively low, I think the economic recovery should continue.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-03-21 06:46pm

According to the ticker on the TV the division has surrendered with him.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-03-21 06:46pm

Crazy_Vasey wrote:
Darth Fanboy wrote:The New York Times is reporting a top Iraqi commander just surrendered to US Marines.
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,3 ... 40,00.html

Commander of the Iraqi 51st division. Not sure yet if the troops are surrendering with him though I think.

Think the troops just up and left, for the most part.

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2003-03-21 06:53pm

Crazy_Vasey wrote:Commander of the Iraqi 51st division. Not sure yet if the troops are surrendering with him though I think.

Pentagon says 8,000. That's a lot of people to keep watch.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-03-21 07:38pm

Darth Fanboy wrote:The New York Times is reporting a top Iraqi commander just surrendered to US Marines.

Their 51st Infantry Division has surrendered; Basra is now effectively ours.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-03-21 08:12pm

fgalkin wrote:Btw, the Dow Jones was at its highest point in 20 years today. Also, the price of oil went down a dollar.

Um, no. The DJIA is nowhere near it's high. It did, however, post an impressive single-day gain of well over 200 points.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-21 09:00pm

fgalkin wrote:Btw, the Dow Jones was at its highest point in 20 years today. Also, the price of oil went down a dollar.

No, it had its highest increase, percentage wise, in 20 years over the past couple days. Its still 2500 points below its highest mark. Gold is also down 40 dollars

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-03-21 09:04pm

Warspite wrote:
Crazy_Vasey wrote:Commander of the Iraqi 51st division. Not sure yet if the troops are surrendering with him though I think.
Pentagon says 8,000. That's a lot of people to keep watch.

I heard that they are telling the soldiers to go home, and stay inside. I'm not sure how solid this is though...I saw it scroll across the screen while I was watching CNN.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-03-21 10:22pm

Well, doesn't this seem to be a Glorious Little War...

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-21 11:24pm

The crossing of Turkish troops has been confirmed by the US government, but the number is only 1000-1500. So far anyway.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-03-21 11:47pm

Turks claim to be on a humanitarian mission? who the fuck do they thinktheyre kidding the whole world knows they hate kurds and that if northern Iraq becomes Kurdistan they'll go in and slaughter the whole lot of them.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-03-22 12:01am

"We're on a humanitarian mission."

"So...much...pain..."

"Er..."

-BLAM-

"Call it an errand of mercy."

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-22 12:10am

They're rational for it being a "humanitarian mission" is that it will stop a flood of refugees across the border. In some respect it would help. South Eastern Turkey cant support or house a large number of refugees, and Turkish troops might help keep the lines of supply open. However its not going to work out that way.

irishmick79 · Post by **irishmick79** » 2003-03-22 12:35am

Ok, is anybody else really creeped out by this "live from the front" footage of the 7th cavalry? They're sitting around waiting right now, with an Iraqi detatchment right in front of them over the horizon. General Wesley Clark and Aaron Brown are rambling on in the background about what's been going on recently, while this unit could be facing combat at any moment. This is just something you don't expect to see happening live....

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-03-22 12:51am

It is pretty bizarre.

Sokar · Post by **Sokar** » 2003-03-22 01:19am

irishmick79 wrote:Ok, is anybody else really creeped out by this "live from the front" footage of the 7th cavalry? They're sitting around waiting right now, with an Iraqi detatchment right in front of them over the horizon. General Wesley Clark and Aaron Brown are rambling on in the background about what's been going on recently, while this unit could be facing combat at any moment. This is just something you don't expect to see happening live....

I find the idea of a live news crew traveling with a US combat unit at the front to be ......odd......and somehow wrong. I'd be worried that the armor crewers would be busy keeping the newsie from getting dead that they might miss something important and get a true soilder killed as a result.....

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-03-22 01:38am

Iraqi information minister is claiming 207 wounded civilians on TV right now...