Figures it would take the US to start fixing FIFA.Evan Perez and Shimon Prokupecz for CNN wrote: Washington (CNN)The U.S. Justice Department plans to announce corruption charges against senior officials at FIFA, the world's soccer governing body, law enforcement officials say.
Up to 14 people are expected to be charged Wednesday based on an indictment in federal court in New York.
Arrests were being made overnight in Zurich, where members of the scandal-plagued organization were gathering for an election Friday that could give its leader Sepp Blatter a fifth term.
Blatter investigated
Blatter isn't among those being charged, the officials say. But he was among those investigated, and officials say that part of the probe continues.
Current and officials seen as close to Blatter are expected to be among those who face indictments.
The identities of those charged couldn't be learned.
The charges are a result of a three-year FBI investigation.
Chequered past
FIFA has been at the center of corruption investigations for years. But the organization has long dismissed allegations that top officials were on the take.
In December, FIFA's ethics committee said it was closing its investigation into alleged corruption in the 2018 and 2022 bidding process that awarded the World Cup to Russia and Qatar, respectively.
The group said its investigation found no corruption and it has no reason to reopen the bidding process.
But the FBI wasn't ready to do the same.
The U.S. investigation accelerated after former U.S. prosecutor, Michael Garcia, who was hired by FIFA to do an internal investigation distanced himself from FIFA's claims of finding no corruption.
In 2011, the FIFA banned for life Mohamed bin Hammam, a Qatari member of its top governing body, for ethics violations.
Jurisdiction issues
Part of the issue for U.S. authorities is establishing U.S. legal jurisdiction for alleged crimes that largely occurred outside the United States.
However, prosecutors believe the broad reach of U.S. tax and banking regulations aid their ability to bring the charges.
In addition, U.S. authorities claim jurisdiction because the American television market, and billions paid by U.S. networks, is the largest for the World Cup.
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Goodie. I'll probably piss some people off by saying this, but I despise soccer and FIFA in particular, so I'm happy to see the shit holes taken down a peg, provided its done through proper legal procedures.
Why do I loath FIFA so much? Well, this video from Jon Oliver is a good place to start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt2KU33l
Bottom line: It sounds like these people have been asking for a judicial ass kicking for a while.
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Edit: Oh for God's sake. I watched this video five minutes ago, so I know bloody well that its available.
Why do I loath FIFA so much? Well, this video from Jon Oliver is a good place to start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt2KU33l
Bottom line: It sounds like these people have been asking for a judicial ass kicking for a while.
Edited to fix the link.
Edit: Oh for God's sake. I watched this video five minutes ago, so I know bloody well that its available.
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Sounds good. How about the IOC next?
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Yea, well if you were a fan of the sport or knew one you'd know that no one likes those fools. They are basically the UN of football. Big, bloated, unfair and no one actually knows why we need them because they sure ain't doing any good.The Romulan Republic wrote:Goodie. I'll probably piss some people off by saying this, but I despise soccer and FIFA in particular, so I'm happy to see the shit holes taken down a peg, provided its done through proper legal procedures.
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Oh dear. THis isn't fixing FIFA unless they indict people who are worth anything (Blatter). Heck, this is not at all different than the anti-corruption trials Europe has been having for decades.TimothyC wrote:Figures it would take the US to start fixing FIFA.
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As much as I'd like FIFA to be brought down, this does concern me.Part of the issue for U.S. authorities is establishing U.S. legal jurisdiction for alleged crimes that largely occurred outside the United States.
However, prosecutors believe the broad reach of U.S. tax and banking regulations aid their ability to bring the charges.
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I thought UEFA wanted to distance themselves far away form FIFA?
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"We have authority over FIFA because of our banking regulations, the same ones we refuse to use against actual banks who launder money for terrorists."FTeik wrote:As much as I'd like FIFA to be brought down, this does concern me.Part of the issue for U.S. authorities is establishing U.S. legal jurisdiction for alleged crimes that largely occurred outside the United States.
However, prosecutors believe the broad reach of U.S. tax and banking regulations aid their ability to bring the charges.
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I'm not sure who is worth anything but...some places have a list of sorts... Not knowing who the hell is who, I figure I'll let others say whether what's being done is worth much.Thanas wrote: Oh dear. THis isn't fixing FIFA unless they indict people who are worth anything (Blatter). Heck, this is not at all different than the anti-corruption trials Europe has been having for decades.
The Justice Department unsealed a 47 count indictment early Wednesday charging 14 world soccer figures, including officials of FIFA, with racketeering, bribery, money laundering and fraud. Four of those accused, including two sports marketing companies, have already pleaded guilty and are likely to be cooperating.
Among the “alleged schemes,” said the Justice Department, were kickbacks to FIFA officials by executives and companies involved in soccer marketing and “bribes and kickbacks in connection” with “the selection of the host country for the 2010 World Cup and the 2011 FIFA presidential election.”
Swiss prosecutors, in a related announcement, said they had opened criminal proceedings against unidentified individuals on suspicion of mismanagement and money laundering related to the awarding of rights to host the 2018 World Cup in Russia and the 2022 World Cup in Qatar.
The separate Swiss probe includes “electronic data and documents” seized at FIFA’s headquarters in Zurich, the Swiss prosecutor’s office said. Swiss police said they will question at least 10 FIFA executive committee members who took part in the World Cup votes in December 2010 that named Russia and Qatar as host nations for the next two tournaments.
But FIFA said those awards to Qatar and Russia would not be reconsidered.
The unsealing of the U.S. indictments early Wednesday morning followed a round-up of FIFA officials at a swanky hotel in Zurich, where the organization is headquartered and where an important meeting was planned. The Swiss said they were acting at the behest of the U.S. which had requested extradition of those arrested.
The allegations of corruption in the most popular sport on the planet surprised no one. For years, a shadow has hung over international soccer. Again and again, allegations have swirled around the sport’s organizing body, FIFA, centering around accusations of rampant bribery in connection with FIFA decisions.
But the announcements that people were actually being arrested and criminally charged took the world by surprise and came in a rapid-fire series of events.
Around midnight Eastern time, the New York Times reported that indictments prepared in the U.S. attorney’s office in Brooklyn would be unsealed Wednesday. Then Swiss authorities, at dawn in Zurich, began making arrests. A Times reporter, tipped off, tweeted from the lobby of the five-star Baur au Lac hotel as arrests were being made.
The Justice Department announcement came in a press release around 5 a.m. Eastern time.
Those charged, the Justice Department said, “include U.S. and South American sports marketing executives who are alleged to have systematically paid and agreed to pay well over $150 million in bribes and kickbacks to obtain lucrative media and marketing rights to international soccer tournaments.”
“Jeffrey Webb and Jack Warner – the current and former presidents of CONCACAF, the continental confederation under FIFA headquartered in the United States – are among the soccer officials charged with racketeering and bribery offenses,” the Justice Department said.
“The defendants also include U.S. and South American sports marketing executives who are alleged to have systematically paid and agreed to pay well over $150 million in bribes and kickbacks to obtain lucrative media and marketing rights to international soccer tournaments.”
A search warrant was being executed at the continental confederation’s office in Miami, according to the Justice Department.
“…. The indictment alleges corruption that is rampant, systemic, and deep-rooted both abroad and here in the United States,” said Attorney General Loretta Lynch. “It spans at least two generations of soccer officials who, as alleged, have abused their positions of trust to acquire millions of dollars in bribes and kickbacks.”
Guilty pleas, according to Justice, have come from Charles Blazer, former general secretary of CONCACAF and a former U.S. representative on FIFA’s executive committee; Jose Hawilla, owner and founder of Traffic Group, a sports marketing conglomerate based in Brazil; and two of Hawilla’s companies, Traffic Sports International and Traffic Sports USA, based in Florida.
What appears to be a related investigation based in Switzerland centers on successful bids for upcoming World Cups in Russia and Qatar.
Those indicted, in addition to Webb and Warner, include:
Eduardo Li, current FIFA executive committee president and president of the Costa Rican soccer federation.
Julio Rocha, current FIFA development officer and former head of the Central American Football Union.
Costas Takkas, an attache and former general secretary of the Cayman Islands Football Association.
Eugenio Figueredo, current FIFA vice president and executive committee members.
Rafael Esquivel, president of the Venezuelan soccer federation.
Jose Maria Marin, member of the FIFA organizing committee for the Olympic football tournaments.
Nicolas Leoz, former FIFA executive committee member.
Alejandro Burzaco, a sports marketing executive based in Argentina.
Aaron Davidson, president of Traffic Sports USA.
Hugo and Mariano Jinkis, principals of Full Play Group, a sports marketing business based in Argentina.
The pre-dawn operation and the U.S. indictments were the culmination of a three-year international investigation into the powerful soccer organization. They follow months of intensifying speculation and years of corruption accusations against FIFA, officially titled the Federation Internationale de Football Association. FIFA presides over international soccer and is in charge of awarding the World Cup. The organization currently sits on more than $1.5 billion in cash reserves, according to the Times.
The FBI, IRS and Justice Department are all involved in the investigation, which is being led by the Brooklyn U.S. attorney’s office.
The arrests come just two days before FIFA’s presidential elections. Current President Sepp Blatter is expected to win reelection but has come under withering criticism over the ongoing corruption investigation. Earlier this month he was forced to deny that he was a target of the probe and was avoiding traveling to the U.S.
Blatter is not one of the officials indicted. But the list does include several top FIFA officials, including executive committee members Webb and Figueredo (Uruguay), who until recently was the president of South America’s soccer association.
Aaron Davidson, president of Traffic Sports USA.
Hugo and Mariano Jinkis, principals of Full Play Group, a sports marketing business based in Argentina.
The pre-dawn operation and the U.S. indictments were the culmination of a three-year international investigation into the powerful soccer organization. They follow months of intensifying speculation and years of corruption accusations against FIFA, officially titled the Federation Internationale de Football Association. FIFA presides over international soccer and is in charge of awarding the World Cup. The organization currently sits on more than $1.5 billion in cash reserves, according to the Times.
The FBI, IRS and Justice Department are all involved in the investigation, which is being led by the Brooklyn U.S. attorney’s office.
The arrests come just two days before FIFA’s presidential elections. Current President Sepp Blatter is expected to win reelection but has come under withering criticism over the ongoing corruption investigation. Earlier this month he was forced to deny that he was a target of the probe and was avoiding traveling to the U.S.
Blatter is not one of the officials indicted. But the list does include several top FIFA officials, including executive committee members Webb and Figueredo (Uruguay), who until recently was the president of South America’s soccer association.
The selection of Russia and Qatar for the 2018 and 2022 tournaments, respectively, were already controversial enough without being connected to corruption allegations. Critics have questioned the decision to award Russia the World Cup when the country is currently occupying Crimea, for example.
Qatar, meanwhile, has come under criticism for its treatment of migrant workers. A report commissioned by Qatar suggested a host of reforms, including blacklisting contractors that cut corners on safety. It also noted nearly 1,000 workers from Nepal, India and Bangladesh — the bulk the migrant labor force in the Gulf nation — died in Qatar in 2012 and 2013. About a quarter of the deaths were blamed on heart problems, while several dozen fatalities occurred on job sites.
Earlier this month, critics demanded World Cup sponsors pull out of Qatar over work conditions. And on Saturday, the Nepalese government said its citizens had not been allowed to leave Qatar to attend funerals for family members killed in the recent earthquake.
Wednesday’s arrests and indictments could still shake-up FIFA’s elections. A month ago, Blatter seemed bound for his fifth stint as president after fighting off several challengers, including former soccer star Luis Figo.
The indictments don’t reflect well on the incumbent, however. Although not indicted, Blatter hasn’t been cleared of wrongdoing either, the Times reported. A growing chorus of notable figures from within soccer have said it is time for him to step down. Earlier this week, after dropping out of the election, Figo called Blatter a “dictator.”
Blatter’s remaining opponent, Prince Ali Bin Al Hussein of Jordan, has campaigned on a promise to clean up the organization. Earlier this week, he announced that he had been approached by someone offering to secure votes in exchange for money. Hussein said he took the information to the police.
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It doesn't matter as these are all replacable faces to Blatter. Heck, a few years ago they had a delegate from Latin America having piles of cash in his spare socks. Nothing happened then to unseat the power structure, nothing will happen now. Why? Same reason why no DA in the USA is taking on the NFL for hiding and falsifying doctor reports and research on the dangers of football. Nobody cares because entertainment trumps the welfare of athletes and morals everywhere.Gaidin wrote:I'm not sure who is worth anything but...some places have a list of sorts... Not knowing who the hell is who, I figure I'll let others say whether what's being done is worth much.Thanas wrote: Oh dear. THis isn't fixing FIFA unless they indict people who are worth anything (Blatter). Heck, this is not at all different than the anti-corruption trials Europe has been having for decades.
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Would the key aspect be timing then? Out of curiosity.
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Not really. This does nothing. FIFA has been corrupt for decades. It exists to make money (and occasionally provide good games). The fact that it was set up by people with good intentions (and little to no safeguards) and has been exploited for decades just means you got a huge org that is non-reformable. The latest efforts by the US are cute in that way, kinda like proclaiming victory against the Mafia after jailing two underregimes.
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What I am surprised is that FIFA didn't threaten to throw USA out of every single international football competition yet. Last time several smaller EU countries tried to root out corruption in their own football organizations, FIFA always threatened repercussions (officially in the name of their autonomy) and now threat falls on top dogs.
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The Department of Justice would laugh and add intimidation to the list of charges. The sport isn't near so important or popular here that our government has to give a shit what FIFA thinks.Irbis wrote:What I am surprised is that FIFA didn't threaten to throw USA out of every single international football competition yet. Last time several smaller EU countries tried to root out corruption in their own football organizations, FIFA always threatened repercussions (officially in the name of their autonomy) and now threat falls on top dogs.
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Maybe they realised it wouldn't work? Tell America they can't play soccer with everyone else, and at best they're not going to give a shit, and that's if they don't double down because you were stupid enough to threaten the United States.Irbis wrote:What I am surprised is that FIFA didn't threaten to throw USA out of every single international football competition yet. Last time several smaller EU countries tried to root out corruption in their own football organizations, FIFA always threatened repercussions (officially in the name of their autonomy) and now threat falls on top dogs.
Or what Rogue 9 said.
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You'd think. Colour me impressed after you get convictions. Heck, they haven't even extradited them yet. The idea that they will just bend over for the mighty USA RAR is comical.Rogue 9 wrote:The Department of Justice would laugh and add intimidation to the list of charges. The sport isn't near so important or popular here that our government has to give a shit what FIFA thinks.Irbis wrote:What I am surprised is that FIFA didn't threaten to throw USA out of every single international football competition yet. Last time several smaller EU countries tried to root out corruption in their own football organizations, FIFA always threatened repercussions (officially in the name of their autonomy) and now threat falls on top dogs.
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I think the unspoken point Rogue 9 is going after is it's more worthwhile to intimidate the country that has to extradite them than the US.
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You'd think. Colour me impressed after you get convictions. Heck, they haven't even extradited them yet. The idea that they will just bend over for the mighty USA RAR is comical.
Well maybe the almighty, arbitrator of ethical conduct Germany should take a whack at it.
Oh wait, we know that isn't going to fucking happen.
At least this way, given our tendency to use plea deals a lot, we have a better chance of getting these guys to turn on Blatter.
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Man, your tu quoque gets funnier every day. Especially because I already freely acknowledged the failure by all Europeans in this matter. So, you managed to make yourself like an insecure shortdick right now.Lonestar wrote:Thanas wrote:
You'd think. Colour me impressed after you get convictions. Heck, they haven't even extradited them yet. The idea that they will just bend over for the mighty USA RAR is comical.
Well maybe the almighty, arbitrator of ethical conduct Germany should take a whack at it.
First, you need to get them extradited, then convicted or interested in a plea. EDIT: At least one of them doesn't seem to do much quaking in his boots right now.At least this way, given our tendency to use plea deals a lot, we have a better chance of getting these guys to turn on Blatter.
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About time, "the beautiful sport" my fat hairy white arse.
tl:dr commit fraud on American soil, get screwed without lube.America does not even like football, or so many people think. Why is it leading the charge against alleged Fifa corruption?
At dawn, Swiss authorities rounded up seven Fifa officials at the behest of US authorities who have conducted a massive investigation into corruption at football's governing body.
So how did a country where football is more niche than entrenched come to police the world's beautiful game?
"Too many countries are cowed by Fifa," said Alexandra Wrage, a former Fifa anti-bribery adviser who resigned in protest from the organisation.
"As with international bribery more generally, the US Department of Justice has said they'll step up to investigate corruption if others won't," she said.
How can the US police a global game?
Speaking to reporters just hours after the arrests in Switzerland, FBI Director James Comey briefly explained the US officials' position.
"If you touch our shores with your corrupt enterprise, whether that is through meetings or through using our world class financial system, you will be held accountable for that corruption," he said.
As it turns out, many of those soccer officials did both, according to the charges.
To prosecute cases that involve foreign nationals, US authorities need only prove a minor connection to the United States.
But in the case of the charges made public on Wednesday, the alleged corruption hit right at the heart of US football.
Fifa and the confederations under it make money by selling the marketing and media rights to the World Cup and other tournaments that they organise.
The charges that brought Wednesday's arrests largely relate to "the systematic payment of bribes and kickbacks" that were paid by marketing executives who wanted to increase their chances at winning contracts for the rights to market and sell media access to tournaments.
These bribes were at times organised during meetings in the United States, and some of the money was transferred through US bank accounts.
What sparked the US investigation?
At a news conference on Wednesday, the acting US Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, Kelly Currie, noted the scale of the allegations.
"This sort of bribery and corruption in international soccer has been going on for two decades. Our investigation...that itself took years," he said.
It is not clear what specific event - if any - prompted the US investigation. Some have pointed to the United States' failed bid in late 2010 to host the the 2022 World Cup, and suspicions that bribes were paid to encourage votes for Qatar.
"I know some people who were in the US bidding committee... they all had really strong suspicions that somebody was getting bought off," Andrew Zimbalist, author of Circus Maximus: The Economic Gamble Behind Hosting the Olympics and the World Cup, told the BBC. He said he suspected that the justice department likely got involved following the failed bid.
Among other reasons, the selection of Qatar raised suspicions because of the extremely high temperatures it experiences during the summer months - a fact that prompted a Fifa taskforce to recommend the games be played in November and December rather than the usual June-July timeframe.
In the hours after the dawn arrests, Swiss authorities said they were opening a separate investigation relating to the bids for the 2018 and 2022 World Cup tournaments.
How deep are the US ties to the case?
Concacaf, the football federation under Fifa that governs the game in North America, is based in Miami, Florida and was raided early on Wednesday.
Two of the people who have been charged - Jeffrey Webb and Jack Warner - are the current and past heads of Concacaf, respectively.
It is not clear what specifically the authorities are looking for in these raids, but many of the charges that were revealed today involve bribery and kickback schemes.
These schemes are related to the media and marketing rights for World Cup qualifying games in the Concacaf region, as well as the Concacaf Gold Cup, the Concacaf Champions League, and several others.
The Copa América, which is set to be held for the first time outside of South America in 2016 when it will be played in the US, was highlighted for the corruption that surrounds it.
"Our investigation revealed that what should have been an expression of international sportsmanship was used as a vehicle in this broader scheme to line executives' pockets with bribes totalling $110 million [£71m], nearly a third of the legitimate cost of the rights to the tournaments involved," US Attorney General Lynch said during a news conference detailing the charges.
Concacaf has been in trouble in the past.
In 2012 Concacaf turned itself into US tax authorities and admitted to not paying taxes for several years.
Among those at the helm of the organisation was secretary general Chuck Blazer, who also served as a Fifa executive committee member.
It was also revealed on Wednesday that in 2013 he plead guilty to several charges related to corruption.
Just months ago, the New York Daily News reported that Mr Blazer has been working as an informant for US authorities.
The newspaper said that he met with soccer officials on the sidelines of the 2012 Olympics in London, and used a hidden microphone on a keychain to gather intelligence.
This report has not been independently confirmed. Officials say the corruption investigation is on-going.
"Nobody is above or beyond the law," FBI Director Comey said. "We will not stop until we send messages that this is not the way things should be and that they must be different".
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Re: US DoJ brings charges against FIFA
Maybe this line should have a caveat about people who have a lot of social/political capital?"Nobody is above or beyond the law," FBI Director Comey said. "We will not stop until we send messages that this is not the way things should be and that they must be different".
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Re: US DoJ brings charges against FIFA
They may not bend over (and I expect they won't), but trying to directly threaten the United States over this would get them absolutely nowhere and they have to know that. That's all I was getting at.Thanas wrote:You'd think. Colour me impressed after you get convictions. Heck, they haven't even extradited them yet. The idea that they will just bend over for the mighty USA RAR is comical.Rogue 9 wrote:The Department of Justice would laugh and add intimidation to the list of charges. The sport isn't near so important or popular here that our government has to give a shit what FIFA thinks.Irbis wrote:What I am surprised is that FIFA didn't threaten to throw USA out of every single international football competition yet. Last time several smaller EU countries tried to root out corruption in their own football organizations, FIFA always threatened repercussions (officially in the name of their autonomy) and now threat falls on top dogs.
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Or are football team owners. Google "Haslam fraud browns" and you'll see what they really mean.Gandalf wrote:Maybe this line should have a caveat about people who have a lot of social/political capital?"Nobody is above or beyond the law," FBI Director Comey said. "We will not stop until we send messages that this is not the way things should be and that they must be different".
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Re: US DoJ brings charges against FIFA
I don't think he's saying that, merely that FIFA threatening retaliation along the lines of banning the US from soccer matches won't work because the US DOJ won't give many fucks, and that's mainly because most of the US populace gives no fucks about soccer. Which is what makes us different than some of the other countries that have tried.Thanas wrote:You'd think. Colour me impressed after you get convictions. Heck, they haven't even extradited them yet. The idea that they will just bend over for the mighty USA RAR is comical.Rogue 9 wrote:The Department of Justice would laugh and add intimidation to the list of charges. The sport isn't near so important or popular here that our government has to give a shit what FIFA thinks.Irbis wrote:What I am surprised is that FIFA didn't threaten to throw USA out of every single international football competition yet. Last time several smaller EU countries tried to root out corruption in their own football organizations, FIFA always threatened repercussions (officially in the name of their autonomy) and now threat falls on top dogs.
I mean it's the opposite with the NFL, because people here do care and thus there's only so much the FBI could do before the NFL goes "well no more games we guess" and then we have blood in the streets. Or trying to fix all the fucking absurdities in college football.
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Blatter is cleaning house of potential rivals, as he does before every election. Yawn.
The US DoJ playing power games and trying to pressure Blatter into scrapping the 2018 World Cup is actually more worrisome, because they just might get away with it.
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The US DoJ playing power games and trying to pressure Blatter into scrapping the 2018 World Cup is actually more worrisome, because they just might get away with it.
Have a very nice day.
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