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Arrested for reporting on Qatar's World Cup labourers

We were invited to Qatar by the prime minister's office to see new flagship accommodation for low-paid migrant workers in early May - but while gathering additional material for our report, we ended up being thrown into prison for doing our jobs.
Our arrest was dramatic.
We were on a quiet stretch of road in the capital, Doha, on our way to film a group of workers from Nepal.
The working and housing conditions of migrant workers constructing new buildings in Qatar ahead of the World Cup have been heavily criticised and we wanted to see them for ourselves.
Suddenly, eight white cars surrounded our vehicle and directed us on to a side road at speed.
A dozen security officers frisked us in the street, shouting at us when we tried to talk. They took away our equipment and hard drives and drove us to their headquarters.
Later, in the city's main police station, the cameraman, translator, driver and I were interrogated separately by intelligence officers. The questioning was hostile.
We were never accused of anything directly, instead they asked over and over what we had done and who we had met.
Workers building al-Wakrah stadium in Doha, Qatar, May 2015
Qatar has been criticised over abuse of migrant workers
During a pause in proceedings, one officer whispered that I couldn't make a phone call to let people know where we were. He explained that our detention was being dealt with as a matter of national security.
An hour into my grilling, one of the interrogators brought out a paper folder of photographs which proved they had been trailing me in cars and on foot for two days since the moment I'd arrived.
I was shown pictures of myself and the team standing in the street, at a coffee shop, on board a bus and even lying next to a swimming pool with friends. It was a shock. I had never suspected I was being tailed.
At 01:00, we were taken to the local prison.
'Not Disneyland'
It was meant to be the first day of our PR tour but instead we were later handcuffed and taken to be questioned for a second time, at the department of public prosecutions.
Thirteen hours of waiting around and questioning later, one of the interrogators snapped. "This is not Disneyland," he barked. "You can't stick your camera anywhere."
It was as if he felt we were treating his country like something to be gawped at, suggesting we thought of trips to see controversial housing and working conditions as a form of entertainment.
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Qatari government statement, 18 May:
"The Government Communications Office invited a dozen reporters to see - first-hand - some sub-standard labour accommodation as well as some of the newer labour villages. We gave the reporters free rein to interview whomever they chose and to roam unaccompanied in the labour villages.
"Perhaps anticipating that the government would not provide this sort of access, the BBC crew decided to do their own site visits and interviews in the days leading up to the planned tour. In doing so, they trespassed on private property, which is against the law in Qatar just as it is in most countries. Security forces were called and the BBC crew was detained."
BBC response:
"We are pleased that the BBC team has been released but we deplore the fact that they were detained in the first place. Their presence in Qatar was no secret and they were engaged in a perfectly proper piece of journalism.
"The Qatari authorities have made a series of conflicting allegations to justify the detention, all of which the team rejects. We are pressing the Qatari authorities for a full explanation and for the return of the confiscated equipment."
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In perfect English and with more than a touch of malice, he threatened us with another four days in prison - to teach us a lesson.
I began my second night in prison on a disgusting soiled mattress. At least we did not go hungry, as we had the previous day. One of the guards took pity on us and sent out for roast chicken with rice.
In the early hours of the next morning, just as suddenly as we were arrested, we were released.
Model of al-Wakrah stadium, which is being built for the 2022 World Cup
Qatar has seen an influx of migrants to build facilities for the 2022 tournament
Bizarrely, we were allowed to join the organised press trip for which we had come.
It was as if nothing had happened, despite the fact that our kit was still impounded, and we were banned from leaving the country.
I can only report on what has happened now that our travel ban has been lifted.
No charges were brought, but our belongings have still not been returned.
So why does Qatar welcome members of the international media while at the same time imprisoning them?
Is it a case of the left arm not knowing what the right arm is doing, or is it an internal struggle for control between modernisers and conservatives?
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Whatever the explanation, Qatar's Jekyll-and-Hyde approach to journalism has been exposed by the spotlight that has been thrown on it after winning the World Cup bid.
Other journalists and activists, including a German TV crew, have also recently been detained.
How the country handles the media, as it prepares to host one of the world's most watched sporting events, is now also becoming a concern.
Mustafa Qadri, Amnesty International's Gulf migrant rights researcher, told us the detentions of journalists and activists could be attempts "to intimidate those who seek to expose labour abuse in Qatar".
Qatar, the world's richest country for its population size of little more than two million people, is pouring money into trying to improve its reputation for allowing poor living standards for low-skilled workers to persist.
Communal kitchen for labourers in Doha, Qatar, May 2015
Government inspectors have said some accommodation is substandard
Inside Qatar's squalid labour camps
A highly respected London-based PR firm, Portland Communications, now courts international journalists. On the day we left prison, it showed us spacious and comfortable villas for construction workers, with swimming pools, gyms and welfare officers.
This was part of the showcase tour of workers' accommodation, and it was organised by the prime minister's office.
Qatar's World Cup organising committee, which answers to Fifa, was helping to run the tour.
Fifa says it is now investigating what happened to us. It has issued the following statement: "Any instance relating to an apparent restriction of press freedom is of concern to Fifa and will be looked into with the seriousness it deserves."
'Open country'
Following our detention, the minister of labour agreed to talk to us on camera about how the media can cover what human rights campaigners have identified as "forced labour" within his country.
"Qatar is an open country forever, since ever," Abdullah al-Khulaifi said.
"The shortcomings that I am facing, the problems I am facing, I cannot hide. Qatar is open and now with the smartphones, everyone is a journalist," he said.
He said the negative coverage of migrant workers' conditions was wildly overblown and that much progress had been made to improve basic conditions for migrant workers.
The government has implemented a wage protection scheme. It says at least 450 companies have been banned from working in the country and more than $6m (£3.8m) of fines have been handed out to firms mistreating workers, and the number of inspectors has been doubled.
Workers are now ferried to and from work in buses, not lorries.
Workers are now taken to shifts in buses, not lorries
Labourers arriving at their housing after a shift
But change has not come easily in what one security guard privately described to me as a country with surveillance officers everywhere.
Without trade unions or a free media, bosses of large domestic and international companies have little incentive to radically improve conditions for well over a million labourers desperate for money.
Before we were detained, I met an 18-year-old mechanic, one of the 400,000 Nepalese workers there.
He said he wanted to support his older brothers because his father had died and the family was struggling financially.
He paid a recruitment agency in Nepal $600 to arrange his visa to work in Qatar and was told he would earn $300 a month.
When he arrived he was told his salary, as a labour camp cleaner for air conditioning mechanics, was in fact $165 a month. He said he has never been given a copy of the contract he signed. Worse still, he said he could not understand it as it was in English.
It's a very common trick that foreign recruitment agents play before workers even get to Qatar, and very difficult for Qatar itself to police, although it says it is trying.
This young man now finds himself at the mercy of Qatar's restrictive kafala system, which prevents workers from changing jobs for five years. Being tied to an employer in that way can leave migrant workers open to exploitation.
However, with so much money needed for rebuilding decimated parts of Nepal, there will be no shortage of future volunteers.
And as Qatar's World Cup approaches, the focus on migrant labour is only likely to increase.
In a police state like that I wonder how many tourists/supporters/journalists will be arrested during the World Cup.

I loved this part
"Qatar, the world's richest country for its population size of little more than two million people, is pouring money into trying to improve its reputation for allowing poor living standards for low-skilled workers to persist."

I guess their PR department made an own goal...
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wautd wrote:I guess their PR department made an own goal...
As if potentially killing 4000+ people to build championship on their bones didn't do that already:

http://www.theguardian.com/global-devel ... rkers-dead

Sadly, no one cares, once you are NATO oil state ally human rights suddenly vanish out of sight.
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Point of order - last time I checked, the death rate per 1000 migrant workers was lower then would be expected in their home countries.
There's just so many workers over there, the death numbers look large.

That is not to say that conditions aren't shit, that passport theft and borderline slavery isn't present and that these things should be critised and embarassed into being corrected, just that the central claim regarding deaths is of inflated significance.
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Hm.

Yeah, if you hire a million able-bodied workers from various countries, to labor on your behalf for a year, you can still expect a thousand of them to keel over dead. Because that's what the death rate is, even in developed countries, for people between the ages of 20 and 40 or so. I imagine it's worse if you hire people from developing countries who are nominally able-bodied but may be suffering from "slow burn" childhood diseases.

The question is, though, how many of the deaths were due to that and how many deaths were due to things like bad working conditions? Saying that the death rate is lower in Qatar than in, say, Nepal is not an excuse- Qatar is comically richer than Nepal and there is no reason that Nepali construction workers in Qatar would die nearly as often as Nepali construction workers in Nepal.
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Simon - test them against the quatari deathrates fir people of that age
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madd0ct0r wrote:Simon - test them against the quatari deathrates fir people of that age
Last big football event we can compare to it, Brazil World Cup in 2014, had what, 8-25 deaths according to various reports? That's kind of big difference to Qatar's projected 1200-4500, and I wouldn't exactly call Brazil a rich country or one with extensive OSHA laws. So, not sure if that argument holds much water.
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How many migrant workers were there in Brazil? The main reason we have such good data for Qatar is the deaths have to be reported to the embassys.
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madd0ct0r wrote:How many migrant workers were there in Brazil? The main reason we have such good data for Qatar is the deaths have to be reported to the embassys.
Brazil had huge internal migration of the workers for new stadiums, plus workers from neighbouring countries. Do you think no one would have reported those deaths? But ok, let's compare 6 last big sporting events then:

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The only under-reported here, if any, is Beijing. And the tally for Qatar is just 1/3 of the way so far.
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madd0ct0r wrote:How many migrant workers were there in Brazil? The main reason we have such good data for Qatar is the deaths have to be reported to the embassys.
Brazil had huge internal migration of the workers for new stadiums, plus workers from neighbouring countries. Do you think no one would have reported those deaths?
for the huge internal migration? no. those deaths wouldn't have been reported outside of explicit accidents that happened on site. The qatar data includes things likes cancers and strokes and heart-attacks. There's also just more workers involved, I think.

Sochi: http://www.rferl.org/content/ghosts-of- ... 79493.html suggests 120 Uzbek deaths out of 56,000 migrants.

There's 1.4 MILLION migrant workers in Qatar.
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madd0ct0r wrote:There's 1.4 MILLION migrant workers in Qatar.
All working on the same project? 1,4 million workers working on the World Cup construction?
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not sure to be honest.

A breakdown of the workers on world cup or supporting infrastructure sites don't seem to be available. Nor for the deaths (ie between world cup sites and non world cup sites)
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According to HRW, the number of migrant workers that Qatar will have to actually employ on these projects will be between 500k to 1 million, so it seems indeed that the vast majority of deaths will occur due to the World Cup construction.

The problem is that everything will have to be built from scratch, but the difference in death rates for migrant workers is quite high. In Russia, an overall 200 000 were involved in the construction of the Olympics, and 100 000 of them were directly involved, but the death rates are nowhere near the Qatari ones.
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Gulf states have traditionally been horrible to migrant workers, especially those from the Indian subcontinent.
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K. A. Pital wrote:According to HRW, the number of migrant workers that Qatar will have to actually employ on these projects will be between 500k to 1 million, so it seems indeed that the vast majority of deaths will occur due to the World Cup construction.

The problem is that everything will have to be built from scratch, but the difference in death rates for migrant workers is quite high. In Russia, an overall 200 000 were involved in the construction of the Olympics, and 100 000 of them were directly involved, but the death rates are nowhere near the Qatari ones.
well, the article i posted just above claimed 120 Uzbek deaths, while Irbis's graph claims '6' in total for all workers. What number of zeros are you going with?
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Even if it's 120 dead per 200k, that would still be a less deadly enterprise compared to ten times the number for a 7-times the number of workers. Mind you, I am not saying Russia is a paragon of construction safety either, so we are comparing the bad and the ugly here.
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madd0ct0r wrote:well, the article i posted just above claimed 120 Uzbek deaths, while Irbis's graph claims '6' in total for all workers. What number of zeros are you going with?
6? Are you looking at Bejing, because certainly you're not looking at Russia? :?

Also - even going with your number, the fact that somehow Quatar already claimed 10x higher number of workers while constructing less venues and infrastructure, in flat land, not in the highest European mountains, in big, rich city, not dilapidated, under-invested fringe of Russia, using officially imported workers, not double illegals, means that something might be kind of wrong, don't you think?

If you want to compare it to relevant, similar Russian statistic, look at FIFA 2018 World Cup - Qatar is completely blown out of the water here, despite being much earlier in the pipeline. You can't even blame the death rate of workers themselves here, life expectancy in India/Nepal is about the same as in Turkmenistan/Tajikistan, 67 years.
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Nope, I was referring to the col called "Russia" in the graphic, didn't realise sochi was separate.

Also can you prove the statements you just made regarding project size and difficultly?
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madd0ct0r wrote:Nope, I was referring to the col called "Russia" in the graphic, didn't realise sochi was separate.

Also can you prove the statements you just made regarding project size and difficultly?
With regards to the project size... given the size of the worker pool necessary (as claimed by Qatar itself), it seems as if a lot more work is to be done by hand, in poorly automated environments. Otherwise the "500 000 workers" number is barely explainable. Only around 57-60k were working full-time directly on construction sites in Sochi, and that place had no infrastructure for that scale of events either. Could explain the deadliness of the environment too.

As for Irbis' claim that Qatar uses 'perfectly legal' workers... The Qatar system for "legal" import of foreign workforce (people are taken to cabins, while their passports are taken away and held by their bosses, as if they were slaves, and the conditions of stay and pay are entirely determined by their bosses' whims without any solid written contract - most of it just bullshit that is worth less than paper it's printed on)...

That is very much like the Russian system for illegal foreign labour (many a Moldovan or Tajik could tell you the scary story of how their passport was taken away in Russia).
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