More US students coming to Germany to study for free

[Thanas]

BBC

The article is too long to quote - and quoting would make it miss essential graphics - so I'll just link to it.

[Eleas]

Hello Brain Drain. This tickles me for some reason.

[Darth Tanner]

"Even if people don't pay tuition fees, if only 40% stay for five years and pay taxes we recover the cost for the tuition and for the study places so that works out well."

I was quite surprised that it takes so little on average to pay off free tuition. 2 years of work pays off the tuition if everyone stayed? I suppose the assumption is that people who have just left university with a good degree/job are earning lots, paying lots of tax but consume very little in government services and will go back to their home country prior to claiming a pension or starting a family in many cases.

[Zaune]

If I spoke a word of German I'd seriously consider it myself.

[LaCroix]

If I spoke a word of German I'd seriously consider it myself.

Not really necessary as prerequisite - lots of courses are in English, most Germans speak English pretty well, and you'll get German lessons, as well.

[Ralin]

Weird. I was just looking at German PhD options earlier today.

[Zaune]

Not really necessary as prerequisite - lots of courses are in English, most Germans speak English pretty well, and you'll get German lessons, as well.

It is if you don't have parents paying for everything and need to find a job over there.

[ray245]

If I spoke a word of German I'd seriously consider it myself.

Not really necessary as prerequisite - lots of courses are in English, most Germans speak English pretty well, and you'll get German lessons, as well.

Unless you are studying Classics and History.

[Borgholio]

Of course if you show this to Republicans, they'll whine and bitch about unfair taxes to pay for lazy students. Seriously, if this program is still around when I have college age kids, I'll certainly look into it for them.

[Thanas]

Not really necessary as prerequisite - lots of courses are in English, most Germans speak English pretty well, and you'll get German lessons, as well.

It is if you don't have parents paying for everything and need to find a job over there.

We do have easily accessible scholarships for that, provided you are a good student.

Seriously, if this program is still around when I have college age kids, I'll certainly look into it for them.

It has been around in some form or the over for over 180 years now, I don't see it going away anytime soon.

[Titan Uranus]

I thought it was only made free for foreigners within the last year or so.

[General Zod]

If I had some means to actually support myself over there and if I could get a Visa I'd seriously consider it. As it is, yeah, probably not going to happen.

[Zaune]

We do have easily accessible scholarships for that, provided you are a good student.

With my academic record I wouldn't bet too much on that. The only qualification I have that's worth the paper it's written on is an A+ Certification, and even that's seven years out of date.

[General Zod]

My GPA was actually pretty solid but I went and fucked that up with a Chinese class and an attempt to finish my degree in New Orleans.

[K. A. Pital]

Not really necessary as prerequisite - lots of courses are in English, most Germans speak English pretty well, and you'll get German lessons, as well.

It is if you don't have parents paying for everything and need to find a job over there.

Some jobs require English only and since you are a EU citizen, you will be considered for these jobs without discrimination.

But... Make sure you that look for such jobs before the idiot otherwise known as Cameron leaves the EU and you end up being in the same position as all non-EU "third rate" people against whom a system of perfectly legal discrimination is put in place.

[Thanas]

I thought it was only made free for foreigners within the last year or so.

Hmmm. I can't claim to have perfect knowledge of all the different states, but what is you source?

[Zaune]

But... Make sure you that look for such jobs before the idiot otherwise known as Cameron leaves the EU and you end up being in the same position as all non-EU "third rate" people against whom a system of perfectly legal discrimination is put in place.

Oh, don't worry. If it comes to that I'll move to Scotland and claim asylum.

[Elheru Aran]

Huh. Wonder if a History degree would fly. I don't know how well a German university would be able to accommodate a deaf student who doesn't lip-read, though...

[Thanas]

Huh. Wonder if a History degree would fly. I don't know how well a German university would be able to accommodate a deaf student who doesn't lip-read, though...

History is the one area where we got more than enough students, so....

And with regards to challenged people, we really suck at it, sadly.

[Zaune]

What about anything software development-related?

[Elheru Aran]

Hmm. What about the Gesellenprüfung in Woodworking? Or there's the Bachelor-Studiengang Holz im Bauwesen? http://www.fh-rosenheim.de/en/technolog ... rs-degree/

How do you suck in accommodating disabilities? I have heard that lip-reading is one of the primary resources for deaf people in Germany due to there being less phonetic difficulties with that language, so I imagine there are few sign language interpreters...

[Thanas]

What about anything software development-related?

No idea. Look up the websites in the BBC article.

Hmm. What about the Gesellenprüfung in Woodworking? Or there's the Bachelor-Studiengang Holz im Bauwesen? http://www.fh-rosenheim.de/en/technolog ... rs-degree/

Not familiar with either of them.

How do you suck in accommodating disabilities? I have heard that lip-reading is one of the primary resources for deaf people in Germany due to there being less phonetic difficulties with that language, so I imagine there are few sign language interpreters...

I have never met one in all of academia and don't know of any university which provides an interpreter. And we suck because we don't accomodate them a lot. Best they can hope for is some better access to university rooms (but given that most buildings were built in the 50s-70s don't count on it) and some easier exams, but there is nobody on hand to help them with the course materials iirc. But usually any university will have an office dediated to this which will know more, I personally just wouldn't expect much. We are not a very accommodating society.

[Elheru Aran]

That's a shame. It's pretty unlikely that I'd be able to do it anyway, given that I've got a family here, but that would have helped.

[Zaune]

Well, I found a couple of strong candidates. If I can somehow solve the twin problems of not speaking a word of German and being less than appealing to employers even before you factor in how much my country has pissed off the rest of Europe... this might be doable.

[Ralin]

Huh. Wonder if a History degree would fly. I don't know how well a German university would be able to accommodate a deaf student who doesn't lip-read, though...

History is the one area where we got more than enough students, so....

Even Chinese history?