The New Essential Guide to Vehicles & Vessels

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-22 01:57pm

Ender wrote:As long as they don't go with any numbers, it shouldn't be an issue.

Hopefully they'll go with the right numbers for once.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-03-22 05:26pm

It looks and sounds like its gunna be pretty good, be nice if they said when it'd be coming out though.....

Kazuaki Shimazaki · Post by **Kazuaki Shimazaki** » 2003-03-22 06:19pm

Crown wrote:Hmmm, it has the YV ships... On the one hand I am interested in seeing what they actually look like, on the other, I despise the NJO and don't really want anything to do with it. I am torn!

If it has the YV ships, then maybe you don't have to read about them in the novel. You can just skim through the YV ship section

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-03-22 06:35pm

"Coming in October: more of the same, only better looking."

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-03-22 06:38pm

Bullshit expected in very large quantities, especially with Vong.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-03-22 06:51pm

You know I'm thinking we should go through an tear-apart stupidities and pulled-out-of-the-ass and blatently brain-bugged stupidities and such and post our critique.

We should start doing this for SW Source materials in general. Publicize the crap in the EU and see if we can purify things out.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-03-22 07:40pm

That is truly an awful rendition of the Executor. Bridge tower aside, the angle they chose to draw it at is a terrible one. It looks just plain weird from th rear, where the tail section juts out all blocky and ugly. Frontal, side, top-down, and diagnal angles seen in other books are far superior.

The N-1 looks nothing like the sleek, agile fighter I saw in TPM.

Otherwise, expect the same old stuff. WEG stats ahoy!

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2003-03-22 09:48pm

If it looked more to scale, and properly done, that is a bad ass shot of an SSD. My avatar used to be of that, taken from the scene over Hoth.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-03-22 10:07pm

Isn't an SSD slightly curved on the sides?

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2003-03-22 10:12pm

that was good one

no

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-03-22 10:14pm

HemlockGrey wrote:Isn't an SSD slightly curved on the sides?

No, an Executor class is all straight edges, and is pretty much an angular arrowhead.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-03-23 08:01pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:Isn't an SSD slightly curved on the sides?
No, an Executor class is all straight edges, and is pretty much an angular arrowhead.

Thats wierd, cos i thought Executor was the name of a flag ship, not a class......

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-23 08:04pm

Dorsk 81 wrote:Thats wierd, cos i thought Executor was the name of a flag ship, not a class......

It's both. The first ship in a class according to naval tradition gives it's name to the class. For example Essex and the Essex-class.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-03-23 08:49pm

Dorsk 81 wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:Isn't an SSD slightly curved on the sides?
No, an Executor class is all straight edges, and is pretty much an angular arrowhead.
Thats wierd, cos i thought Executor was the name of a flag ship, not a class......

First, a flagship is just a ship with a flag officer (in Sci-Fi it is now the commanding warship in a fleet).

Second, the first name of the first ship of a class is the same as that class.

Jadeite · Post by **Jadeite** » 2003-03-23 09:22pm

The Executor looks hideous. And what the hell is that green ship in the picture, the squashed one with the wings?

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-03-23 09:30pm

Jadeite wrote:The Executor looks hideous. And what the hell is that green ship in the picture, the squashed one with the wings?

It's one of the ships from Zonama Sekot.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-03-23 09:54pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
Dorsk 81 wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote: No, an Executor class is all straight edges, and is pretty much an angular arrowhead.
Thats wierd, cos i thought Executor was the name of a flag ship, not a class......

First, a flagship is just a ship with a flag officer (in Sci-Fi it is now the commanding warship in a fleet).

Second, the first name of the first ship of a class is the same as that class.

Well, I thought that Executor was just the name of Vader's ship, not a class, ok?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-23 10:12pm

Dorsk 81 wrote:Well, I thought that Executor was just the name of Vader's ship, not a class, ok?

We were just trying to explain it. Don't get so upset about it.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-03-24 08:34am

Stormbringer wrote:
Dorsk 81 wrote:Well, I thought that Executor was just the name of Vader's ship, not a class, ok?
We were just trying to explain it. Don't get so upset about it.

lol, I'll try.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-03-24 10:34am

You should. It'll make you look less like a moron.

Currald · Post by **Currald** » 2003-03-24 04:42pm

DG_Cal_Wright wrote:One thing Doug Chiang had going for him, he was a damn good tech artist.

Riiiiight.

That's why he didn't leave room for R2-D2's legs in the N-1 Naboo Fighter...

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-03-24 04:48pm

Other than that one thing, he's still damn good.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2003-03-24 05:04pm

No, you've got that one wrong. In fact I remember flaming him repeatedly on numerous threads for flaws just like that. I'm not talking about his ability to CREATE, just his ability to draw. It's very impressive really. Other than that, I don't think he should have been lead designer, and I wonder why he's not heading it up again on Ep III, much less working with Lucas Ltd at all. odd

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-03-24 11:06pm

Currald wrote:
DG_Cal_Wright wrote:One thing Doug Chiang had going for him, he was a damn good tech artist.
Riiiiight. That's why he didn't leave room for R2-D2's legs in the N-1 Naboo Fighter...

Precisely. One wonders after seeing TPM if he found inspiration in WEG.

"Battleships" with worthless combat characteristics.

Landing ships that should structurally fall apart.

Tanks that are never demonstrated to be able to use their "shell" firing weaponry.

A SW-level army armed with melee and throwing weapons.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-03-24 11:16pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:"Battleships" with worthless combat characteristics.

Landing ships that should structurally fall apart.

Tanks that are never demonstrated to be able to use their "shell" firing weaponry.

A SW-level army armed with melee and throwing weapons.

TradeFed Battleships hav ebeen said again and again to indeed not be battleships in a true sense. The TF Battleship is actually a cargo hauler, and was modified so it could fight capships and have cargo room at the same time.

C-9979 Landing craft use "tensor fields" to strengthen certain key girders on the ships structure to allow it to stay together. The design in and of itself is stupid though.

Huh? AATs used their shells for a brief few moments in TPM. Right after the shield is destroyed, it cuts to a group of AATs shootign at the Gungans, and you see projectiles flying out the holes at the base of the tank. Although they don't look like actual missles, neither do any other ones in SW.

Gungan army was stupid, though. TPM still sucks too. Only redeming quality is the lightsaber duel, and the podrace.

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