US Soldier involved in attack on his comrades?

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-03-22 11:22pm

Isn't the first time a soldier went beserk and attempted to kill his comrades- but considering the conditions in the US Army I'm VERY surprised that they had an incident like this.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-03-22 11:53pm

Fox News just said the soldier is a muslim-american but they are still looking for independent confirmation.

Between all of the networks they can't seem to agree on the number, someewhere between 12-16. A few of the wounded are still in surgery.

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-03-23 05:02am

Even IF its found that he has no ties to a terrorist group and that it was a spur of the moment action due to some "mental lapse" a way will still be found (probably by FoxNews) to blame it all on Al'Qaeda and making this person out to be an evil terrorist sleeper, then encourage the KKK to burn his family just in case.

mantakai · Post by **mantakai** » 2003-03-23 05:46am

i heard on the radio that he was heard to yell "your under attack" as he threw live grenades into his comrades tents whilst they were sleeping

with the current problems between countries going on it's a sad thing to see one countryman turn on his own comrades

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-03-23 07:41am

mantakai wrote:i heard on the radio that he was heard to yell "your under attack" as he threw live grenades into his comrades tents whilst they were sleeping

with the current problems between countries going on it's a sad thing to see one countryman turn on his own comrades

This entire incident is just bizarre.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-23 07:51am

Shoot him at dawn.

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2003-03-23 08:54am

What will happen to this soldier? Could he be sentenced to death after a court martial?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-23 08:55am

Next of Kin wrote:What will happen to this soldier? Could he be sentenced to death after a court martial?

Congratulations, you have won the "most obvious statement of the war so far" award.

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2003-03-23 08:57am

MKSheppard wrote:
Congratulations, you have won the "most obvious statement of the war so far" award.

Woohoo!

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-23 09:01am

MKSheppard wrote:Congratulations, you have won the "most obvious statement of the war so far" award.

I think it's fair question to ask since it's pretty unlikely that Jihad Johny Walker will get the death penalty even though he fought for Al-Queda.

NoK, given that it was in the middle of war that he tried to kill his commanding officers I think he's facing the death penalty. Whether he will or not is probably going to depend on what his motivation was. If he just snapped he's much more likely to just get life in prison but if he did it for Iraqi/Islamo-fundy sympathy then he's much more likely to get the death penalty.

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2003-03-23 09:05am

Stormbringer wrote: If he just snapped he's much more likely to just get life in prison but if he did it for Iraqi/Islamo-fundy sympathy then he's much more likely to get the death penalty.

Thanks. It will be interesting to see if this was part of a larger scheme or if it was just one person who snapped.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-23 09:08am

Stormy, Jihad Johnny was tried under Civilian courts, not under the
Universal Code of Military Justice

This guy is going to hang, literally.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-23 09:10am

Next of Kin wrote:Thanks. It will be interesting to see if this was part of a larger scheme or if it was just one person who snapped.

You're welcome. All indications right now seem to be that he was a lone nut. Just a single wacko that did it for whatever reason.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-23 09:11am

MKSheppard wrote:Stormy, Jihad Johnny was tried under Civilian courts, not under the
Universal Code of Military Justice

This guy is going to hang, literally.

Really? He's been tried and convicted?

Man I hope you aren't shitting me. That fucker deserves the rope if anyone does.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-23 09:13am

Stormbringer wrote: Really? He's been tried and convicted?

Not yet, but the differences between a Civilian court and a Military
Court (which he is going to be tried under) are like night and day.

Jihad Johnny made a deal with the prosecutors to get off
lightly, but I have this "feeling", call it the "force" if you will,
that this guy is going to have the fastest trial known to man

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-23 09:16am

MKSheppard wrote:Not yet, but the differences between a Civilian court and a Military Court (which he is going to be tried under) are like night and day

Damn it Shep, here I was about to celebrate. I can only hope the little fucker really does get the rope. I don't doubt he'll be convicted but I wonder whether or not he'll get the death he so richly deserves.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-23 09:30am

Stormbringer wrote: but I wonder whether or not he'll get the death he so richly deserves.

Military authorities take a very dim view of fragging your own commanding
officers, ya know...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-23 11:02am

Well, it seems CNN is saying that the attack might have been politically motivated.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2003-03-23 11:23am

The BBC site and Fox News have said that one of the soldiers was killed in this attack...

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-03-23 01:12pm

He accepted blame for this. They should pull him out and shoot him and leave him there to rot.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-23 01:12pm

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 01,00.html

EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT
Tragedy at Camp Pennsylvania

TIME's Jim Lacey has been traveling with the 1st Brigade of the 101st
Airborne Division. Over two weeks ago, they had set up camp in northern Kuwait just 20 miles south of the Iraqi border. Then the drama began:

It was 1:45 Sunday morning when I was awakened by the first blast—a boom 10 times louder than a car backfiring. Ten seconds later there was a second blast, and then soldiers started screaming, "Get out! Get out!" Someone had slipped two hand grenades into the tent housing more than a dozen of the brigade's officers. One woman in my tent, which was 10 yards away from the explosion, yelled, "I'm hit." A piece of shrapnel from the grenade had lodged in her leg.

I ran out of my tent into total chaos. The Scud alarms were sounding, and people were running for the bunkers we use during those alerts. Most soldiers were in uniform, but some were wearing the workout clothes they sometimes sleep in. Realizing the explosions were not Scuds, I walked over to the tent where the grenades had gone off and saw two very badly wounded soldiers—one bleeding from his leg, back and stomach. The medics had not yet arrived, so soldiers were bandaging wounds themselves. I noticed the chaplain trying to comfort the dozen or so who had been wounded. Sergeants were shouting orders to form a security perimeter. Some of the younger soldiers were looking on in a state of shock and had to be hand-led to their positions. Fifteen minutes later an ambulance drove up to take away the badly wounded soldiers. One died soon after.

Because a number of officers had been hit, no one knew at first who was in charge. Then two officers who were bleeding from wounds started giving orders.

Thinking there was a terrorist on the loose, a group of soldiers began assembling to conduct a manhunt. Other officers were inspecting the tents and bunkers to make sure everyone was accounted for.

One of those officers spotted a soldier, lying alone in a bunker near the explosions, who appeared to be wounded. The soldier, who has a Muslim name, had, according to military sources, recently been acting insubordinate; his superiors had decided not to bring him into Iraq.

Camp sources say he initially admitted responsibility. The officer drew his weapon and called for backup. Then they handcuffed the soldier, read him his rights and waited for criminal investigators to arrive.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-23 01:25pm

Vympel wrote:Isn't the first time a soldier went beserk and attempted to kill his comrades- but considering the conditions in the US Army I'm VERY surprised that they had an incident like this.

Several years ago a solider opened fire on the rest of his squad at Fort Bragg, wounding two. MP's shot him in the head before the magazine was empty. This guy deserve the same, and it doesn't matter why the fuck he might have done this.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-03-23 01:58pm

Well, one silver lining around this cloud is that it reminds people of what a real traitor actually is. For the last six months, we've been hearing that a traitor is anyone who disapproves of the Bush administration.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-23 03:51pm

Sergeant Asan Ackbar

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-03-23 10:04pm

Well now we know a little bit more about him,converted to islam two years ago i`m wondering because of jerks like him,will they start screening every soldier to know their beliefs