Abe continues being a vile revisionist

[cmdrjones]

I was replying to the subject about castration as a specific punishment for rebellion or as a way to control slaves... The only specific instances I could find quickly were about Arabs enslaving blacks. Now, as for the "nazis are preferable to ISIS" you may retract THAT little lie immediately. I stated specifically that I would buy ammunition for the Totenkopf division if they were to SHAMBLE FORTH FROM THEIR GRAVES... which means I prefer fantasy undead Nazis to ISIS.... so please sir, learn how to read, and perhaps comprehend a simple analogy with a joke attached to it. My gosh there are some tone deaf and humorless people on this board.

I won't retract anything since I don't accept your parody retcon, your whole post history puts that "just joking" backpedal into question.

Secondly, if the Arab slavers DID enslave Africans by the hundreds of thousands and castrate them.... how can that possibly be construed as "arab bashing"?
When we go after Confederates or nazis or Belgians it is rightly understood that we are talking about real life crimes.... we're not "bashing", right?

I call it bashing because your introduced it to this thread in a gratuitous manner when the question was BTW asked explictely about sources of white people crimes. So yes, Arab bashing for the purpose of comitting a transparent Tu Quoque.

I also agree that talking about Arab slavers (or indeed, any slavers) is not Arab bashing, for the record.

If it's brought up completely unsolícited in a topic not related to the people or their region then I call it bashing. If people bring up Stalin's crimes in unrelated topics I'd call it Russian bashing too.

Amazing that THIS guy is going to use someone ELSE'S 'post history' as evidence of their bad intentions...
I also now know that anything he describes as 'gratuitous' is objectionable... for instance: Quoting Churchill...
can you provide us with a list of your triggers so we won't harm your calm in the future?

[Metahive]

mazing that THIS guy is going to use someone ELSE'S 'post history' as evidence of their bad intentions...
I also now know that anything he describes as 'gratuitous' is objectionable... for instance: Quoting Churchill...
can you provide us with a list of your triggers so we won't harm your calm in the future?

Your post history is full of godbotting, misogyny, confederate apologia and general trollishness. Yeah, I have not forgotten that you call yourself a "CONFEDERATE PATRIOT".

#3 to break it down barney style for the slow learners: Dylan Roof is a NUT who was responding to PERCEIVED persecution, it does NOT MATTER what you or I think of it. My position is that if you continue and intensify these efforts at "Banning racist flags" you will create MORE Dylan Roofs. I speak AS A CONFEDERATE PATRIOT... I know who I am talking about. Now, you can go on all that you want about banning confederate symbols (even if you are successful, it won't really matter, as I linked above, all you do is create a black market in the stuff and make it "cool" again.
The stars and bars were largely irrelevant until last week, now, nobody will shut up about it.

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... 8&start=50

Yeah, not going to treat you with any sort of respect or giving you even a tiny sliver of doubt.

[cmdrjones]

mazing that THIS guy is going to use someone ELSE'S 'post history' as evidence of their bad intentions...
I also now know that anything he describes as 'gratuitous' is objectionable... for instance: Quoting Churchill...
can you provide us with a list of your triggers so we won't harm your calm in the future?

Your post history is full of godbotting, misogyny, confederate apologia and general trollishness. Yeah, I have not forgotten that you call yourself a "CONFEDERATE PATRIOT".

#3 to break it down barney style for the slow learners: Dylan Roof is a NUT who was responding to PERCEIVED persecution, it does NOT MATTER what you or I think of it. My position is that if you continue and intensify these efforts at "Banning racist flags" you will create MORE Dylan Roofs. I speak AS A CONFEDERATE PATRIOT... I know who I am talking about. Now, you can go on all that you want about banning confederate symbols (even if you are successful, it won't really matter, as I linked above, all you do is create a black market in the stuff and make it "cool" again.
The stars and bars were largely irrelevant until last week, now, nobody will shut up about it.

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... 8&start=50


OK Bigot... So you hate anybody from the south, who identifies with the south? WOW, JUST WOW. I don't hate Koreans. In fact, I/ve met a few. They're just folks y'know?
I am glad that you have put your hatred ad bigotry out there for everyone to see.

Yeah, not going to treat you with any sort of respect or giving you even a tiny sliver of doubt.

[Thanas]

Tread lightly, Jones. Metahive is absolutely correct about your posting history.

[Metahive]

OK Bigot... So you hate anybody from the south, who identifies with the south? WOW, JUST WOW. I don't hate Koreans. In fact, I/ve met a few. They're just folks y'know?
I am glad that you have put your hatred ad bigotry out there for everyone to see.

Yeah, not going to treat you with any sort of respect or giving you even a tiny sliver of doubt.

Is everyone from the american South a CONFEDERATE PATRIOT? Is the CSA synonymous with the South? I think there are many people from there who would disagree with you about that and also about your rather dishonest attempt to deflect the blame by using them as shields. I think we might have posters besides you from there here on the board, why don't we let them decide whether or not they are OK with being called CONFEDERATE PATRIOTS?

[cmdrjones]

Tread lightly, Jones. Metahive is absolutely correct about your posting history.

Well, I will have to concede that due to they healine of the site you are all up front about your hatred for religion... that's one of the reasons I come here. Tax collectors, prostitutes, drunkards, neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free etc. If you reject THAT set of ideas, then it is no wonder that my posts seem full of 'misogyny' I'd think so too, IF i believed as many of you claim to. Now, as far as confederate patriotism goes, No not everyone from the south identifies as such, just as many from the 'north' fly the stars and bars. (hang around southern indiana, illinois, ohio, or all of kentucky sometime)
I'd also like to point out that in that thread, (for contexts sake) I was pointing out the absolute folly and hypocrisy of going after the soutehr flag in response to what a nutjob did. I warned you that the attempt to ban the flag would result in unecessary violence and push-back. So far, I think I have been proven correct. Otherwise, (as many of you have pointed out) how do you explain Donald Trump?

[Thanas]

What is the point of all that nonsense? That you feel trodded upon? Boo-hoo, poor you. Don't waste my time with this shit anymore.

[cmdrjones]

What is the point of all that nonsense? That you feel trodded upon? Boo-hoo, poor you. Don't waste my time with this shit anymore.

Dust.... feet.... Etc.

[Metahive]

Well, I will have to concede that due to they healine of the site you are all up front about your hatred for religion... that's one of the reasons I come here. Tax collectors, prostitutes, drunkards, neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free etc. If you reject THAT set of ideas, then it is no wonder that my posts seem full of 'misogyny' I'd think so too, IF i believed as many of you claim to.

I reject the idea that a god gave birth to himself and then had that mini-me killed to change the rules of a system he created and maintained solely himself. Think that sounds stupid? Well, that's Christianity in a nutshell. Don't blame me for your religion making so little sense.

Now, as far as confederae patriotism goes, No not everyone from the south identifies as such, just as many from the 'north' fly the stars and bars. (hang around southern indiana, illinois, ohio, or all of kentucky sometime)

So you were in fact making shit up and falsely accusing me of bigotry then? In this case I demand both a retraction and an apology for falsely calling me a bigot against people from the Southern US. I will take it to the mods if you refuse or try to slither away.

I'd also like to point out that in that thread, (for contexts sake) I was pointing out the absolute folly and hypocrisy of going after the soutehr flag in response to what a nutjob did. I warned you that the attempt to ban the flag would result in unecessary violence and push-back. So far, I think I have been proven correct. Otherwise, (as many of you have pointed out) how do you explain Donald Trump?

Yes, you threatened terrorism in revenge of people bothering you about your beloved traitor flag. Hah, nice to remind me about that one too, asshole.

[K. A. Pital]

Yeah, cmdrjones, you do need to apologize because you admitted yourself that Confederacy is not the South (if anything, it's the shame of the South, a giant stain on its history), and in fact there's plenty of people who are not in any way associated with that piece of shit slavocracy. And since you admitted as much, you should take your words back: not everyone who hates the Confederacy "hates the South". They hate a particular slavocracy of the South, not everyone from the South as you implied by your silly accusations.

Retract them. Now.

Just in case you think you can obfuscate, this particular piece:

OK Bigot... So you hate anybody from the south, who identifies with the south?

[Ziggy Stardust]

I warned you that the attempt to ban the flag would result in unecessary violence and push-back. So far, I think I have been proven correct. Otherwise, (as many of you have pointed out) how do you explain Donald Trump?

Donald Trump may be a buffoon, but he certainly isn't an instance of "unecessary violence and push-back". And his current prominence has absolutely nothing to do with the Confederate flag. In fact, Trump supported its renewal. What other instance of violence and push-back are you referring to?

[Ahriman238]

Tread lightly, Jones. Metahive is absolutely correct about your posting history.

Well, I will have to concede that due to they healine of the site you are all up front about your hatred for religion... that's one of the reasons I come here. Tax collectors, prostitutes, drunkards, neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free etc. If you reject THAT set of ideas, then it is no wonder that my posts seem full of 'misogyny' I'd think so too, IF i believed as many of you claim to. Now, as far as confederate patriotism goes, No not everyone from the south identifies as such, just as many from the 'north' fly the stars and bars. (hang around southern indiana, illinois, ohio, or all of kentucky sometime)

What the blazes does the headline have to do with religion? Unless you're self-identifying the religious as "stupid people." There's plenty of religious people on the board, myself included, and I've never felt less than welcome here.

I'd also like to point out that in that thread, (for contexts sake) I was pointing out the absolute folly and hypocrisy of going after the soutehr flag in response to what a nutjob did. I warned you that the attempt to ban the flag would result in unecessary violence and push-back. So far, I think I have been proven correct. Otherwise, (as many of you have pointed out) how do you explain Donald Trump?

Attention-whore seems most accurate, and totally unconnected with violent pushback. Part of what people are objecting to is the double standard where a racially/ideologically motivated white killer is automatically a lone nut-job, but darker skin hues are apparently representative samples of fill-in-group.

Having noted that banning or taking down the flag of the Confederate Treason is sort of an oddball response to the shooting, and an event unlikely to help defeat racism in any meaningful way, I have to admit it's a welcome silver lining to the whole mess. It still baffles me that a statehouse flew the flag of treason so long, while another state has preserved the battle-flag in it's own state banner. It's sort of a baby-step in the right direction, like the bare minimum that should have happened generations ago.


I'll leave you with the same advice I gave SpidemanFanboy, this is the internet and we all say stupid shit sometimes. What separates the active members from the banhammer is the intellectual honesty to admit when we're wrong, and the courage to say you're sorry if you get too personal. From where I'm sitting, you look to be on some thin ice, so maybe take a minute to examine your position and your assumptions, and your debating tactics too. If you just ragepost snide remarks, you're only going to drag the conversation down and draw further unfavorable attention from the mods.

It is perfectly possible to hold unpopular positions here, hell, Stas K A Pital is still a Commie, but you do have to hold yourself to some standards of debating tactics and mature behavior.

[cmdrjones]

Yeah, cmdrjones, you do need to apologize because you admitted yourself that Confederacy is not the South (if anything, it's the shame of the South, a giant stain on its history), and in fact there's plenty of people who are not in any way associated with that piece of shit slavocracy. And since you admitted as much, you should take your words back: not everyone who hates the Confederacy "hates the South". They hate a particular slavocracy of the South, not everyone from the South as you implied by your silly accusations.

Retract them. Now.

Just in case you think you can obfuscate, this particular piece:

OK Bigot... So you hate anybody from the south, who identifies with the south?

I agree that SLAVERY is a stain on southern history. The confederacy had the absolute right to secede. Second, I find it amusing to take morality lessons from a "glorious commie" How many did Pol Pot, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Kim Jong Il, Castro and Che Guevara kill BTW?

[cmdrjones]

Tread lightly, Jones. Metahive is absolutely correct about your posting history.

Well, I will have to concede that due to they healine of the site you are all up front about your hatred for religion... that's one of the reasons I come here. Tax collectors, prostitutes, drunkards, neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free etc. If you reject THAT set of ideas, then it is no wonder that my posts seem full of 'misogyny' I'd think so too, IF i believed as many of you claim to. Now, as far as confederate patriotism goes, No not everyone from the south identifies as such, just as many from the 'north' fly the stars and bars. (hang around southern indiana, illinois, ohio, or all of kentucky sometime)

What the blazes does the headline have to do with religion? Unless you're self-identifying the religious as "stupid people." There's plenty of religious people on the board, myself included, and I've never felt less than welcome here.

I didn't self identify religious as "stupid people" that's obviously the position of the site owner. Ten minutes of reading the things he's posted about his life makes that abundantly clear.
That may very well be true... what religion are you BTW?

[cmdrjones]

I warned you that the attempt to ban the flag would result in unecessary violence and push-back. So far, I think I have been proven correct. Otherwise, (as many of you have pointed out) how do you explain Donald Trump?

Donald Trump may be a buffoon, but he certainly isn't an instance of "unecessary violence and push-back". And his current prominence has absolutely nothing to do with the Confederate flag. In fact, Trump supported its renewal. What other instance of violence and push-back are you referring to?

Well, let's see, he was endorsed by David Duke.... AND two white journalists were just shot by a gay black man for their 'racist remarks' I thought the Confederate flag ban was supposed to fix all of this?

WHere do YOU think the policy went wrong?

[cmdrjones]

I reject the idea that a god gave birth to himself and then had that mini-me killed to change the rules of a system he created and maintained solely himself. Think that sounds stupid? Well, that's Christianity in a nutshell. Don't blame me for your religion making so little sense.

Yes, you threatened terrorism in revenge of people bothering you about your beloved traitor flag. Hah, nice to remind me about that one too, asshole.

#1 that explains a lot.

#2 predicting something is NOT the same as wishing for it. I'll go slow for you: ISIS will probably kill some innocent people in Iraq and/or Syria tomorrow! See? nowhere does that indicate I support ISIS does it?

And as far as the "traitor" flag crack goes, you DO realize the American flag is also a traitor flag, yes? oh and while we're on traitor/slaver flags:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Korea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan%E2% ... ty_of_1910

A policy of gradual emancipation was put in place in 1775,[6] and starting in 1801, the government begun freeing its own slaves.[1] The hereditary nobi system was abolished around 1886[1] or 1887,[5] (sources vary on specific date) and the rest of the nobi system was abolished with the Gabo Reform of 1894[7] or in 1895[1] (again, sources vary). However, slavery did not disappear in Korea until 1930, during Imperial Japanese rule

Looks like you are flying a TRAITOR AND SLAVER flag on your PROFILE you bigot!!!
Geez it's like some hypocritical evil industrial power invaded your backward little agrarian land and dominated your hereditary and "noble" class, forcing them to sign humiliating treaties and give up their hard earned SLAVOCRATIC traditions! At least I have the DECENCY not to fly such a TRAITOR flag, but only support it in an intellectual way.... WOW, Just WOW.

[cmdrjones]

BTW, before you start screaming about tu quoque, that only applies if I was excusing the Crimes of the Confederates because "Koreans enslaved people too!" its about drawing attention to the patent hypocrisy of communists and Korean nationalists going on and on about "traitors"

I suppose we can argue about who is and isn't a Scotsman as well...
or we can get back to the original thread topic?

[cmdrjones]

Attention-whore seems most accurate, and totally unconnected with violent pushback. Part of what people are objecting to is the double standard where a racially/ideologically motivated white killer is automatically a lone nut-job, but darker skin hues are apparently representative samples of fill-in-group.

Having noted that banning or taking down the flag of the Confederate Treason is sort of an oddball response to the shooting, and an event unlikely to help defeat racism in any meaningful way, I have to admit it's a welcome silver lining to the whole mess. It still baffles me that a statehouse flew the flag of treason so long, while another state has preserved the battle-flag in it's own state banner. It's sort of a baby-step in the right direction, like the bare minimum that should have happened generations ago.


I'll leave you with the same advice I gave SpidemanFanboy, this is the internet and we all say stupid shit sometimes. What separates the active members from the banhammer is the intellectual honesty to admit when we're wrong, and the courage to say you're sorry if you get too personal. From where I'm sitting, you look to be on some thin ice, so maybe take a minute to examine your position and your assumptions, and your debating tactics too. If you just ragepost snide remarks, you're only going to drag the conversation down and draw further unfavorable attention from the mods.

It is perfectly possible to hold unpopular positions here, hell, Stas K A Pital is still a Commie, but you do have to hold yourself to some standards of debating tactics and mature behavior.

This is a reasonable position. As for the double standard on race, I fully admit that is the case, the problem with this particular event is not only the judging of the retard church shooter as being representative of ALL 'Confederate loving whites' is even LESS likely to de-escalate the situation DUE to their greater position in society when compared to American blacks. Now, we have a direct example of this escalation in the Roanoke shooter... I guess we didn't ban the confederate flag hard enough? I don't know if there IS a good solution to this.

I agree that the attempt to ban the flag was silly, as for whether it's a "step in the right direction" or not, meh... that's up to posterity. If anybody decides the composition of the states flags, it should be the citizens of the several states.

I also agree that being the bigger man and apologizing when necessary is a good thing. If you'll note though there have been quite a few personal insults directed at me by those who disagree with me, while I usually send out obvious (to me) DISQUALIFY!!! posts that are meant to show how easy it is to find something objectionable about the other guy and thus make rhetorical excuse to ignore everything they say. See how this gets us nowhere?

[Metahive]

Uh-huh-hu, precious, simply precious.

The fucking CONFEDERATE PATRIOT thinks apologies for his knowingly false accusations are not only not in order but also that he can compare the South Korean flag to the traitor rag. History lesson!

If you had read the articles you quoted you'd have noticed that Korea started abolishing slavery in about 1775 and that by the time the flag displayed in my profile and its direct, similar predecessor were adopted Korea had in fact no more slaves or serfs. That's right, by the time Jefferson was writing about how all men are created equal and possessing of unalienable rights (while owning slaves), Korea was in fact getting rid of an evil the US originally enshrined in its constitution and hed to shed copious amounts of blood over to remove.
Koreans however did suffer enslavement under the Japanese, who used our men to dig trenches and our women as cumbuckets. Yep, unlike the whiny rich white plantation owners from the traitor states, Koreans did come to learn the hardships of the whip and not being master over your own destiny. Yet you think it's appropriate likening Korean history to the CSA. Please die in a fire.

Also, I'm actually not much of a korean patriot, seeing as I'm the child of emigrants and have last seen Korea some ten years ago. The reason I put the flag in my profile was because some american jingoist on this board wanted to know what kind of insignificant and irrelevant country I'm hailing from, so I obliged.

BTW, you cannot think that the South had a right to secede while claiming that slavery was a stain, since that was the sole reason the South threw its chilidish tantrum in the first place. You're just being a dishonest lying sack of shit as all the other modern CONFEDERATE PATRIOTS.


Go take a rusty crowbar and shove it up your ass, you drooling piece of filth!

[Metahive]

Oh, overlooked this gem:

However, slavery did not disappear in Korea until 1930, during Imperial Japanese rule

Japan annexed Korea in 1910. There was no Korea in 1930. Koreans did serve as slave race to the Japanese until 1945. The Japense not only enslaved my ancestors, they attempted to erase our culture and language too while they were at it and some modern Japense politicians think that was totally swell and we should just ask to be put under japanese rule again since we had it "so much better" then. I'm fucking offended by your willful ignorance and dishonesty. I'm fucking offended that you think Korea, a country with its own millenia of history can be likened to a failed rebellion of five years that happened for the sole reason to not only preserve but to spread the evil that is slavery. Why don't you compare the CSA to Imperial Japan, you fucking asshole?

Go fuck yourself, you troll.

[Thanas]

Thread locked pending administrative action.