SC Governor calls for removal of Confederate flag

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Re: SC Governor calls for removal of Confederate flag

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Actually he was, of the Mexican War. Which is not to say we should be commemorating his treason.
Well...yeah...but that doesn't really count here. :) He didn't fight in the Civil War, so he doesn't deserve a place next to Robert E Lee or anyone else who actually fought in it.
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If we counted Mexican war veterans alongside of Civil War, we'd have a damn lot of politicians and nobs from that general period who didn't actually do much in the CW (other than throwing hot air around).

You could make a vague argument that as commander-in-chief of the Confederate military (was he?), Jeff Davis rated 'veteran' status... but that's about it.
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Elheru Aran wrote:You could make a vague argument that as commander-in-chief of the Confederate military
Vague? That's about as solid as you get.
(was he?)
I assume so - my understanding of the CSA's constitution is that it was effectively a cut-and-paste of the US version, with a few tweaks to the wording to reinforce slavery.
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Captain Seafort wrote: Vague? That's about as solid as you get.
Does that mean all US presidents are afforded veteran status?
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Call me silly but shouldn't one actually have fought in a war to be considered a veteran of it?
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Presidents do not count as veterans, at least not due to their tenure as President. thats sort of the point, they are civilians so we have civilian control,of the military.
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Patroklos wrote:Presidents do not count as veterans, at least not due to their tenure as President. thats sort of the point, they are civilians so we have civilian control,of the military.
Right, that's why I was confused about Captain Seafort's comment that Jefferson Davis has a "solid" argument for being considered a veteran.
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Patroklos wrote:Presidents do not count as veterans, at least not due to their tenure as President. thats sort of the point, they are civilians so we have civilian control,of the military.
Then why are they entitled to a spot in Arlington based solely on the fact of their Presidency?
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Captain Seafort wrote: Then why are they entitled to a spot in Arlington based solely on the fact of their Presidency?
Considering the fact that the Department of Veterans Affairs goes rather out of its way to specify that only 26 U.S. Presidents are considered veterans of the military, I think it's safe to say that the spot in Arlington is a red herring.
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