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Re: Something big
^More like for repulsortanks, speederbikes, spacetroopers.
See finished gallery - going with Chi-class for designation:
See finished gallery - going with Chi-class for designation:
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From that angle it looks really damned intimidating. I have a mental image of an Imperial officer looking out those bridge windows sipping a cup of tea and calmly ordering the troops to go kill the enemy.
Baltar: "I don't want to miss a moment of the last Battlestar's destruction!"
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."
Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."
Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.
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Repulsortank? With some extra armour, or an ablative shields or some sort perhaps?
Baltar: "I don't want to miss a moment of the last Battlestar's destruction!"
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."
Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."
Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.
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Re: Something big
Tank or IFV? That turret looks distinctly Bradley/Warrior-esque.Eternal_Freedom wrote:Repulsortank? With some extra armour, or an ablative shields or some sort perhaps?
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Beautiful work with the Chi-class. The view around the struts/power-trunking in the deployed position just looked *right*. Definitely a big bastard, in absolute terms.
Liking the tank/AFV. I do prefer the Juggernaut-inspired secondaries to the AT-AT blasters on the last AFV. Not sure why. I think the pieces of the Juggernaut are just more appealing (hopefully this does not mean I'm developing a fetish for the prequels). The weathered look in the most recent pictures is very apropos. Is that a crew hatch on the lower-glacis plate? Very interested to see how this one turns out.
Liking the tank/AFV. I do prefer the Juggernaut-inspired secondaries to the AT-AT blasters on the last AFV. Not sure why. I think the pieces of the Juggernaut are just more appealing (hopefully this does not mean I'm developing a fetish for the prequels). The weathered look in the most recent pictures is very apropos. Is that a crew hatch on the lower-glacis plate? Very interested to see how this one turns out.
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I doubt that's a crew hatch, if only because the frontal armour strikes me as an incredibly dumb place to put a weak point like a hatch.
Baltar: "I don't want to miss a moment of the last Battlestar's destruction!"
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."
Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.
Centurion: "Sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar: "What are you babbling about other...it's impossible!"
Centurion: "No. It is a Battlestar."
Corrax Entry 7:17: So you walk eternally through the shadow realms, standing against evil where all others falter. May your thirst for retribution never quench, may the blood on your sword never dry, and may we never need you again.
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You're probably correct, in retrospect. I think I may have been searching for parallels and compared it to some of the more cramped hatch arrangements (for instance, the M103 with its turret rotated and the bustle over the driver's hatch). If not a crew hatch, I'll be curious to see what might go there, that would not compromise the hull.Eternal_Freedom wrote:I doubt that's a crew hatch, if only because the frontal armour strikes me as an incredibly dumb place to put a weak point like a hatch.
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I used a similar bit of detail in the suspension area of the Juggernaut. I don't have a good explanation for it beyond rule of cool - maybe a protective boss for a power transmission system for the repulsorlift?
This thing is sort of an IFV. There's a boarding/egress hatch at back. The size is sufficient for decent habitability for a squad, since I imagine SW deployments could be potentially long and in very hostile environments.
This thing is sort of an IFV. There's a boarding/egress hatch at back. The size is sufficient for decent habitability for a squad, since I imagine SW deployments could be potentially long and in very hostile environments.
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Cool-looking fiddly bit. I can go with that. Again, I like the details on the turret. It feels like something you could drop on a Panther or a Centurion.
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It makes sense to have accessory armour plates protecting what one presumes are the main repulsorlift locations-- bottom and sides of the hull. In a peacekeeping or low security situation, you can tool around without it, but should you enter a hazardous zone, extra armour could go a long way towards protecting your repulsor vehicle from mines because if you get one or two good hits against the hull, it's quite possible that the vehicle would be grounded and incapable of doing anything more than being a rather vulnerable temporary pillbox.
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Fractalsponge, got an account to say that I really appreciate your work. Very nice (deadly) ship designs.
Just a question - What would the weaponry be for the Secutor-class be? I could not find it in any of the 81 previous pages.
Just a question - What would the weaponry be for the Secutor-class be? I could not find it in any of the 81 previous pages.
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From page 47, we do have a partial, anticipated breakdown, at the bottom of the 2010-10-02 02:36pm post:
3x2 ISDI-caliber (175? teraton) heavy ion turrets (2 dorsal amidships, 1 ventral bow),
6x2 70-teraton Venator turbolasers (4 dorsal centerline, 2 ventral centerline),
24x4 32/40-teraton turbolasers (6 dorsal centerline, 10 dorsal trench brim, 8 ventral trench brim)
For what it is worth, my own count is:fractalsponge1 wrote:
I added the forward Venator-style center spine, which is not on the reference, but I wanted a place to stick a superfiring centerline gun battery. It's not entirely true to the reference or to the Venator (for the tower), chalk it up to indecision or laziness as you will
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SWTC suggests swallowtail (there's actually no strong indication from the broadside-on reference), and I took the simpler interpretation of the hull form as indicative of some function, rather than a modified ship. The Venator tower (hilarious really, since Dark Empire was well before anything like a Venator appeared), suggested carrier function. In addition, I was thinking the Venator tower might actually be a standard KDY design feature for ships that need to concentrate C&C for many different types of operations (ship handling, comscan, ground and aerospace wing coordination) in the smallest possible armored volume. (i.e. without extensive terrace sprawl or a big standard hex module); useful in ships built for speed.
So, I started with the notion that it's a swallowtail/chevron. One thing that means is that it's a big but flat ship. The form allows good agility by providing lots of off-axis thrust, and brings the engines aft and out of the way. The wide hull needed for the chevron shape and the out of the way engines means more area for large fighter bays.
All that makes this either a generalist heavy destroyer to back up bayless fleet specialist ships/lead colonial forces or ECR's idea of a pursuit ship (could be both, really).
Hangar placement isn't final yet, but probably two big bays to either side of the ventral spine, lateral launch hangars. Minimal ground contingent for the size, maybe just the standard legion, but backed by a 4-6 wing fighter group.
The thin hull makes reactor placement tricky, so lots of medium sized minor reactors and several main modules (actually 3 Venator main reactor modules + minor reactors) rather than one monolithic central reactor. Sum them all up and it works out to ~2x ISD by power generation. I am following the results of discussion from here: http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... &p=3133896 with regards to armament. Currently the plan is to have 5 quad 32/40-teraton barbettes on either dorsal trench brim, 6 down the centerline, and another 4-6 spread around the ventral hull. This is backed by 4x2 70-teraton Venator twins on the center spine, and probably some more ventrally. There will be 4-6 ISDI-caliber heavy ion twin turrets spread around the dorsal hull and ventral centerline as well.
3x2 ISDI-caliber (175? teraton) heavy ion turrets (2 dorsal amidships, 1 ventral bow),
6x2 70-teraton Venator turbolasers (4 dorsal centerline, 2 ventral centerline),
24x4 32/40-teraton turbolasers (6 dorsal centerline, 10 dorsal trench brim, 8 ventral trench brim)
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@Redshirt thanks, I was able to count those. The main thing I was curious about was amount of smaller guns/missile tubes that may not necessarily be visible.
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There are some light missile tubes on the Secutor, but guns lighter than MTL are undetailed due to the scale. I think there were 13 quad MTL mounts on the final version (6x bridge tower area, 2x ventral prow, 3x ventral centerline, 2x ventral terrace). The previously posted count of heavier weapons is correct though.
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Some messing about with a military conversion of the customs corvette:
Hangar for 2-3 squadrons of fighters. More accommodation and command space for added crew, removed the docking port at bottom, slightly revamped armament.
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Some messing about with a military conversion of the customs corvette:
Hangar for 2-3 squadrons of fighters. More accommodation and command space for added crew, removed the docking port at bottom, slightly revamped armament.
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I like it. Though not too big on the guns mounted on the side. Personally, I think it needs a coaxial blaster and then a E-Web mounted up top in a remote setup.
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It's got twin blasters on one side and a rocket pod on the other! Of course it needs more dakka!
I do love the look of it, not sure about the side armour. I do love the look of it though.
I do love the look of it, not sure about the side armour. I do love the look of it though.
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The turbolaser turret just fit, with sawn off barrels and some component shrinking.
Also, bonus extra renders for Allegiance:
http://fractalsponge.net/?p=52
Also, bonus extra renders for Allegiance:
http://fractalsponge.net/?p=52
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