The strangest Star Trek news I've heard in a long, long time.Huffington Post wrote:Former "Star Trek: Voyager" actress Jennifer Lien was arrested in her Harriman, Tennessee, home on Sept. 3 after allegedly exposing herself in front of children, according to multiple reports.
ABC WATE reports that on Aug. 31 a neighbor passing by the 41-year-old's home commented on her crying children, which led to the actress lashing out at the neighbor with a "vulgar" tirade.
The neighbor claims that Lien then exposed herself, lifting up her shirt and dropping her pants, all while three children looked on. Lien denied exposing herself, but police issued her a detainer summons, charging her with indecent exposure.
According to the police report obtained by Variety, when officers later appeared with a warrant on Sept. 3, the actress was naked under a blanket and resisted arrest.
Lien, who appeared on “Star Trek: Voyager” from 1995 to 2000 as Kes, allegedly threatened the arresting officers, claiming she would have all of them shot and killed. She remains in custody at this time.
Jennifer Lien Arrested For Indecent Exposure
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It's terrible news, I know people can have breakdown but I never thought it would be Lien, after being in voyager just have a steady set of roles, afterwards, obviously something has gone wrong and just hope she gets support.
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The Variety story about this from 15 September shows what are apparently her mugshots at age 41:
The difference in her appearance from what is apparently a photo of her taken in 2012 as seen on her IMDb page is astonishing:
The difference in her appearance from what is apparently a photo of her taken in 2012 as seen on her IMDb page is astonishing:
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Not really? She's shaved her head and dyed it (or stopped dyeing it). OTher than that, not that much difference.FSTargetDrone wrote: The difference in her appearance from what is apparently a photo of her taken in 2012 as seen on her IMDb page is astonishing:
One's a mug shot of her either uner the influence or no sleep for days... an the other is a posed, properlly lit and makeuped pic.
Every site (like 6) I've seen with forums or comments talking about this is all LOOK HOW SHIT SHE LOOKS.
Well no shit. She clearly has gone through some troubles. What those are I don't want to guess and it's not my business. But talking about her appearance seems a bit crappy imo.
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Her appearance doesn't matter as far as this criminal case is concerned, but as a side issue it is rather shocking. She looks like a Founder.
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She was 20 when Voyager started. Now she's 41. Of course she looks different.
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It's not that she simply aged. Her entire look changed. She is totally unrecognizable.
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The 2012 picture versus the 2015 mugshot is still quite recognizable- if you're aware that she shaved her hair.
One question is, is your idea of "her look" that of Kes on the show? Because that was how Lien looked after extensive makeup deliberately trying to make her look like a mildly unearthly being, as I understand it. Nobody would look like that on a regular day to day basis.
One question is, is your idea of "her look" that of Kes on the show? Because that was how Lien looked after extensive makeup deliberately trying to make her look like a mildly unearthly being, as I understand it. Nobody would look like that on a regular day to day basis.
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Nobody was comparing her to how she looked on Voyager. The comparison was explicitly between the 2015 and 2012 pictures.ZOmegaZ wrote:She was 20 when Voyager started. Now she's 41. Of course she looks different.
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one's a mug shot after god knows what she's taken, the other is in makeup for a publicity photo.Ziggy Stardust wrote:Nobody was comparing her to how she looked on Voyager. The comparison was explicitly between the 2015 and 2012 pictures.ZOmegaZ wrote:She was 20 when Voyager started. Now she's 41. Of course she looks different.
Of course she looks different.
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She may not be taking anything - she might, in fact, need to be on drugs if she has some form of mental illness.
I think the safest thing to say here is that the woman has "issues", or less euphemistically, "problems".
I think the safest thing to say here is that the woman has "issues", or less euphemistically, "problems".
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Oh hell no, I'm well aware of the amount of makeup and styling they use on actors and actresses. I'm comparing between this one and her mugshot:One question is, is your idea of "her look" that of Kes on the show?
This image was taken in 2004 at a Trek Convention. 10 years isn't really all that long of a time, so while I could reasonably expect her to maybe gain a little weight or change her hair style somewhat, the difference between that and her mugshot is more than I would have expected.
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Yes fair. May have been a few nights up without sleep, really unflattering lighting... who knows. Not my business. I was just saying i seems unfair to judge how she looks in a mugshot after ~something~ rather than with a stylist and makeup artist helping her.Broomstick wrote:She may not be taking anything - she might, in fact, need to be on drugs if she has some form of mental illness.
I think the safest thing to say here is that the woman has "issues", or less euphemistically, "problems".
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Those look pretty much the same, given that one is a police mugshot of a disheveled messed-up woman who had shaved her head, while the other is a photograph of a woman with an actual hairstyle and (I think) some makeup on.Ziggy Stardust wrote:Nobody was comparing her to how she looked on Voyager. The comparison was explicitly between the 2015 and 2012 pictures.ZOmegaZ wrote:She was 20 when Voyager started. Now she's 41. Of course she looks different.
It is entirely possible for the same person to look completely different after only a few days if those days are stressful enough and cause them to be unable/unwilling to engage in personal grooming. This is especially true for women in Western society, because social expectations result in women spending quite a bit more time and attention working out the details of their hairstyles, clothing, and personal appearance in general.
Any event which stops a woman from doing that can make her "look totally different."
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Why did Prometheus and Simon both respond to my post that way? I never said a single thing about whether I thought the woman looked the same in those two pictures or not. All I said in my post was that we were NOT talking about how she looked on the show, as an earlier poster implied.
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Newsflash. Some woman who looked beautiful can turn ugly in just a few years. Men goes bald usually in their late 40s-50s.
Is she crazy because she decided the best way to tell someone off is to allegedly expose her genitals or threatening to kill the cops, or both? Who knows, but hopefully her kids come out decent. Where's the husband in all this? Is he batshit insane to marry her and have kids with her? We'll be talking to leading expert in family values, Ann Coulter. Coming up at 5AM.
Is she crazy because she decided the best way to tell someone off is to allegedly expose her genitals or threatening to kill the cops, or both? Who knows, but hopefully her kids come out decent. Where's the husband in all this? Is he batshit insane to marry her and have kids with her? We'll be talking to leading expert in family values, Ann Coulter. Coming up at 5AM.
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Ziggy, sorry I wasn't making a personal attack against yourself. Just each forum I'm in discussing this is probably have the responders to these threads going doesn't she look bad, hasn't she let herself go etc.Ziggy Stardust wrote:Why did Prometheus and Simon both respond to my post that way? I never said a single thing about whether I thought the woman looked the same in those two pictures or not. All I said in my post was that we were NOT talking about how she looked on the show, as an earlier poster implied.
Maybe it's because it's Kes and I like the character, but I just think if Jen ever read these threads (or on facebook or twitter where the same comments are there) it would be heartbreaking for her, that people seem to care more for how she looks than her, herself.
Anyway, she's obviously got to a bad place in her life and I wish her well.
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Human decency toward a celebrity who's involved in a scandal? What is the world coming to?