The FAN'S cannonicty policy for Startrek

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-03-21 04:40pm

As we all know the Paramount Policy: Only the Shows are canon, here is the FAN's cannonicity hierchy for Star Trek.

The Original Series
The Romulon books by Diane Duane
Those Episodes of TNG that Gene was still around for.
Dreadnaught, Doctor's Orders and The Doualogy about Spock's Son
Technical Manuals & Encyclopedias
The Wrath of Khan
DS9
SFB
The Other movies except Nememsis, Generations, & STV
The OTHER books
The Animated Series
The Rest of TNG
Generations (They didn't kill Kirk that cheaply)
Fanfictions
STV (That was a pot dream)
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Voyager
Nemesis
Enterprise

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-03-21 10:38pm

The Romulon books by Diane Duane

She wrote "The Romulan Way", right? Good book.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-03-21 10:59pm

NOOOOO!

Voyager CANNOT be cannon!

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2003-03-21 11:17pm

Superman wrote:NOOOOO!

Voyager CANNOT be cannon!

How about we use it to clean a cannon? Say the main barrel of the Death Star.

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-03-22 12:50am

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Voyager
Nemesis
Enterprise

*snorts and attempts to keep a straight face*

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-03-22 01:08pm

Yeah, that was generally the intention...

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-03-22 01:10pm

Frank Hipper wrote:
The Romulon books by Diane Duane
She wrote "The Romulan Way", right? Good book.

Among others

Lets just say that her books got repackaged by pocket books (They were so popular with the fanbase)

Batman002 · Post by **Batman002** » 2003-03-23 03:18am

I just want to say that not all Star Trek fans think that way. I know what is cannon, what is Official, and what is Non-cannon/official.

Cannon:
TOS
TNG
DS-9
Voy.
All 10 movies

Official:
TNG/DS-9 Technical manuals
Star Trek Encyclopedia 1st, 2nd,& 3rd. printings
TNG, DS-9, & Voy Commpanion books
Star Trek Star Charts
Star Trek The Magazines
Star Trek Communicator magazines

Non-Cannon/Official:
All Novels
All Comics
Star Trek Animated series
Any Technical manual that came out before 1987/ pre TNG era.

I love Star Trek but you won't see me confusing any of the Non-Cannon/Official for the real thing.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-03-23 03:48am

No Batman, this is what most fans of the series WOULD LIKE to have considered cannon.

NOTE that Voyager & Enterprise are on the bottom of the list.

Most Trek fans don't like either one at all.

Note Diane Daune near the top of the list. She is considered the best of the writers, she is to ST books what Zhan is the SW books. Fans love her star trek books involving the Romulon Empire.

Batman002 · Post by **Batman002** » 2003-03-23 04:10am

This fan doesn't consider your list correct and even though I hate Voyager I do like Enterprise. I prefer Peter David for the novels.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-03-23 05:02am

Batman002 wrote:This fan doesn't consider your list correct and even though I hate Voyager I do like Enterprise. I prefer Peter David for the novels.

Words fail me.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-03-23 09:10am

...like...Enterprise?

I had heard rumors...but I didn't think those people actually existed...

Quick, quick, shoot it, we'll stuff and mount him...

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-03-23 11:17am

Batman, their is no Trek Offical, Paramounts Canon policy is black and white, either its the tv shows/movies or it's not canon.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-03-23 04:05pm

Yup, and that's part of why Paramount has pissed off a number of the Great Old Ones crowd.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-03-23 07:00pm

I can state for a fact that most ST fans enjoyed Nemesis and do not rank it so low on the list. It had its problems but it was fun to watch.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-03-23 09:59pm

Alyeska wrote:I can state for a fact that most ST fans enjoyed Nemesis and do not rank it so low on the list. It had its problems but it was fun to watch.

Which fans have you been talking to? Yes, the Trek fans THAT ARE STILL AROUND enjoyed the film. The problem was that it disillusioned a spectacularly large percentage of their fan-base--as much as thirteen percent by some polls. My dad and his friends (for seven) said that they walked into that movie as Trekkies and walked out without any loyalty to the franchise.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-03-23 11:38pm

Here's a shot in the dark.... Anyone remember who wrote the Klingon novel back in the mid-late 80s??? I can't even remember the name of it right now.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-03-23 11:40pm

BTW, I like the way that they rank the obviously self-contradictory fan-fics above some of the allegedly reputable sources of canon.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-03-23 11:42pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:Generations (They didn't kill Kirk that cheaply)

Bah-bah-bah-bah-bah-bah-bah-BULLSHIT!

Batman002 · Post by **Batman002** » 2003-03-24 10:05pm

anarchistbunny

Batman, their is no Trek Offical, Paramounts Canon policy is black and white, either its the tv shows/movies or it's not canon.

Think so huh? I said nothing about Official being cannon they are different.

Cannon is the Movies and the episodes. Official is the technical manuals, Encyclopedia's and magazines about the shows seen on TV or the big screen.Star Trek the magazine says at the botom of it "Officially authorized by Paramount Pictures" as well as all the other material outside the novels, comics and cartoon shows from the seventies.

If it mentions anything that has been seen "ON SCREEN" it is Official, until it is actually talked about on screen where it becomes Cannon. Paramout considers the information obout Spock in two Animated ep. of Star Trek to be Official because they mentioned his past in them and did so again in TNG. Paramout does have an Official status as well as a Cannon status, visit the web site or check out a magazine and read the cover.

Sabastian Tombs · Post by **Sabastian Tombs** » 2003-03-25 11:43am

Frank Hipper wrote:Here's a shot in the dark.... Anyone remember who wrote the Klingon novel back in the mid-late 80s??? I can't even remember the name of it right now.

Do you mean The Final Reflection by John M. Ford?

Sidious · Post by **Sidious** » 2003-03-25 07:44pm

Batman...fix your Ash quote its bugging the hell outta me.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-03-25 07:55pm

Sabastian Tombs wrote:
Frank Hipper wrote:Here's a shot in the dark.... Anyone remember who wrote the Klingon novel back in the mid-late 80s??? I can't even remember the name of it right now.
Do you mean The Final Reflection by John M. Ford?

YES!!! Thank you VERY much. I lost all my paperbacks in an unfortunate situation with a storage company, and it's been bugging me for MONTHS!

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-25 08:00pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:As we all know the Paramount Policy: Only the Shows are canon, here is the FAN's cannonicity hierchy for Star Trek.

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Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-03-25 08:07pm

Sidious wrote:Batman...fix your Ash quote its bugging the hell outta me.

No shit.

It's suposed to be "Good, bad: I'm the guy with the gun." Ash - Army of Darkness

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