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Sometimes I wonder if Israeli Premier Minister Netanyahoo is prejudiced against Palestinians.
Netanyahu Holocaust remarks: Israeli PM criticised

Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been criticised for saying a Palestinian leader persuaded the Nazis to carry out the Holocaust.

Mr Netanyahu insisted Adolf Hitler had only wanted to expel Jews from Europe, but that Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini told him: "Burn them."

However, the chief historian at Israel's memorial to the Holocaust said this account was factually incorrect.

Israel's opposition leader called it "a dangerous historical distortion".

A senior Palestinian official meanwhile said it showed Mr Netanyahu hated Palestinians so much he was willing to absolve Hitler.

Tensions have been worsened since early October by a spate of stabbing and shooting attacks - several of them fatal - on Israelis by Palestinians, and one apparent revenge stabbing by an Israeli.

Israeli security forces have also clashed with rioting Palestinians, leading to deaths on the Palestinian side. The violence has also spread to the border with Gaza.
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Husseini, who died in 1974, was a Palestinian nationalist leader who led violent campaigns against Jews and the British authorities in what was then British Mandate Palestine in the 1920s and 1930s.

He fled the territory in 1937, but continued his campaign to oppose British plans to partition it into a Jewish state and an Arab one, allying himself with the Nazis during World War Two.

Husseini met Hitler in Berlin in November 1941, when he tried to persuade the Nazi leader to declare his support for the creation of an Arab state, according to German press reports at the time.

But in a speech at the World Zionist Congress in Jerusalem on Tuesday, Mr Netanyahu gave a different account.

"Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time - he wanted to expel the Jews," the Israeli prime minister said.

"And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said: 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.'

"'So what should I do with them?' he [Hitler] asked. He [Husseini] said: 'Burn them.'"

However, the chief historian of the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem, Professor Dina Porat, said Mr Netanyahu's statement was factually incorrect.

"You cannot say that it was the mufti who gave Hitler the idea to kill or burn Jews," she told the newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth. "It's not true. Their meeting occurred after a series of events that point to this."

Opposition leader Isaac Herzog said the prime minister's remarks played into the hands of Holocaust deniers.

"This is a dangerous historical distortion and I demand Netanyahu correct it immediately as it minimises the Holocaust, Nazism and... Hitler's part in our people's terrible disaster," he wrote on his Facebook page.

The Palestine Liberation Organisation's Secretary General, Saeb Erekat, said in a statement: "It is a sad day in history when the leader of the Israeli government hates his neighbour so much that he is willing to absolve the most notorious war criminal in history, Adolf Hitler, of the murder of six million Jews."

Mr Netanyahu later responded to the criticism, saying: "I had absolutely no intention of absolving Hitler of his diabolical responsibility for the extermination of Europe's Jews."

But, he added, it was "absurd to ignore the role played by the mufti", citing the testimony of the deputy of Adolf Eichmann - considered the architect of the Holocaust - at the Nuremberg trials.

"He said: 'The mufti played a role in the decision of the German government to exterminate the European Jews, the importance of which must not be disregarded.

"He has repeatedly suggested to the various authorities with whom he has been in contact - above all before Hitler, Ribbentrop and Himmler - the extermination of European Jewry. He considered this as a comfortable solution for the Palestine problem.'"

Husseini was sought for war crimes but never appeared at Nuremberg.
I really, really hope that this will lead to some serious consequences for Netanyahu. In most countries that would be at least a minor political scandal and the culprit would lose his position. (Followed by a visit to some Holocaust memorial museum/organisation to show how they totally learned their lesson).
As German I am quite used to the phrase "but Hitler wanted to let them go" as a way to euphemise history. But it is weird to hear it from a Jewish Israeli. And it is horrible to use it as an attempt to sow more hate.
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Welf wrote:Sometimes I wonder if Israeli Premier Minister Netanyahoo is prejudiced against Palestinians.
Ya think? :lol: I mean, his position on the settlers has been very consistent, and he has been very much for status quo.
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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
Welf wrote:Sometimes I wonder if Israeli Premier Minister Netanyahoo is prejudiced against Palestinians.
Ya think? :lol: I mean, his position on the settlers has been very consistent, and he has been very much for status quo.
Yes, and status quo in this context being continued non-stop expansion of settlements.
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Nuttyahoo says something about Arab Palestinians deeply offensive for both it's inciting anti-Arab hatred by dumb Israeli's and blatant historical inaccuracy? Must be a day ending in 'Y'.

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Edi wrote:Yes, and status quo in this context being continued non-stop expansion of settlements.
Don't forget the bi-annual "lawn mowing"

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My god, this man is fucking dangerous.
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Lol. Now I´m impatiantly waiting for Netanyahu to say that not everything Hitler did was bad because of the Autobahn.
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Wasn't 'Yahoo always an idiot? I mean, I remember the posts about him years ago, and he is quite the consistent dumbass.
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There is a theory out there that this is masterful media manipulation. To sum up, they try to highlight the (actually existing) historic connection between early Palestinian leaders and Hitler. And to make it news they combine it with something outrageous that will be repeated in the media. In a month people will forget about Netanyahu's crap since we are used to hear something like that from him, and the new information about the connection will stay. I don't really believe that version since hateful idiot seems to be the more likely explanation.
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K. A. Pital wrote:Wasn't 'Yahoo always an idiot? I mean, I remember the posts about him years ago, and he is quite the consistent dumbass.
Yeah, but as far as I can tell, openly engaging in Hitler apologia is a new low. An Israeli Prime Minister using rhetoric out of the Holocaust deniers' handbook shows just far down the rabbit hole we've gone.
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Hitler and the Nazi party had all sorts of international relationships - most of which are embarrassing in hindsight. He had relations with many large US firms, for one thing, such as IBM and Ford. And prior to World War 2, there were all sorts of Zionist movements floating around Europe. It's understandable that the Palestinians would be concerned. In fact - they were obviously right to be concerned, since it turns out all their fears were justified. The absolute worst possible outcome for them actually happened.

But all that is totally orthogonal to Hitler's ideological anti-Semitism - it's obvious that the outcome of the Wannsee conference was a given the moment Hitler stepped into power.

Regardless, Bibi is known for being something of a bloviating jackass.
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K. A. Pital wrote:Wasn't 'Yahoo always an idiot? I mean, I remember the posts about him years ago, and he is quite the consistent dumbass.
He was an ethnic cleansing advocate already in the 1990s when after the murder of Rabin he got elected as prime minister and promptly did everything in his power to scuttle any hope of actually solving the problems with the Palestinians.
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