Star Wars: Rebels

[Rogue 9]

Wow. That was awesome. I mean, other than "Why did the Fifth Brother put away his lightsaber when Zeb came at him barehanded," I can't even nitpick. Excellent show all around this week.

[The Romulan Republic]

And here I am, still fuming that I don't see anything but second hand commentary and clips, because apparently they don't show it on any of the channels I get any more.

Might have to actually spring for the DVDs at this rate.

[NecronLord]

More of these.

I loved Ahsoka's "You are beaten!" when she defeated the Seventh Sister; makes you remember who trained her. I wonder if the other inquisitors have the Grand Inquisitor's 'trick' of being able to identify who trained a Jedi by their combat style, and if so, whether they're able to tell that Darth Vader trained Ahsoka.

And if they'd dare say anything to either of them.

[Rogue 9]

Sooooo... Did Ezra just learn nothing from getting casually bitchslapped in this week's episode? He's only alive because Ahsoka saved them; why does he think that's changed?

[The Romulan Republic]

It looks like Ezra's going toward the Dark Side.

[Zixinus]

The only real annoyance I have is one that cannot be fixed on the Disney Channel: Asoka should have cut down both Inquisitors without comment. But you can't do that on Disney.

[RogueIce]

More of these.

I loved Ahsoka's "You are beaten!" when she defeated the Seventh Sister; makes you remember who trained her. I wonder if the other inquisitors have the Grand Inquisitor's 'trick' of being able to identify who trained a Jedi by their combat style, and if so, whether they're able to tell that Darth Vader trained Ahsoka.

And if they'd dare say anything to either of them.

Hasn't Vader's style changed though, since being in the suit? He doesn't really fight like Anakin did. And I'm not an expert but with the whole two blades thing I don't think Ahsoka really fights like Anakin, either. Though Anakin did train her, but her relationship with Plo Koon suggests he was not the only one. Somebody taught her the two blades thing, and that wasn't really Anakin's thing from what we've seen.

The only real annoyance I have is one that cannot be fixed on the Disney Channel: Asoka should have cut down both Inquisitors without comment. But you can't do that on Disney.

That's not really the Jedi way, though. And while she may have left the Order, I don't think it's unreasonable to believe she still believes in some of the ideals.

[Zixinus]

That's not really the Jedi way, though.

They were Sith, even if only imitators. They are people that definitely earn the "cut down on sight" reaction from a Jedi. The only reason why she wouldn't is if she believed she could turn them away from the Dark Side. I don't get the impression of that here.

[Purple]

That's not really the Jedi way, though.

They were Sith, even if only imitators. They are people that definitely earn the "cut down on sight" reaction from a Jedi. The only reason why she wouldn't is if she believed she could turn them away from the Dark Side. I don't get the impression of that here.

Maybe she just desperately wants to believe that there is some good still left in the galaxy...

[Galvatron]

That's not really the Jedi way, though.

They were Sith, even if only imitators. They are people that definitely earn the "cut down on sight" reaction from a Jedi. The only reason why she wouldn't is if she believed she could turn them away from the Dark Side. I don't get the impression of that here.

It was my understanding that Anakin broke the Jedi's rules when he executed Dooku.

[Crazedwraith]

It obviously depends on the situation. You can slice people in half if they're still fighting. (Maul) You're not supposed to decapitate helpless surrendering people like Dooku.

[NecronLord]

That's not really the Jedi way, though.

They were Sith, even if only imitators. They are people that definitely earn the "cut down on sight" reaction from a Jedi. The only reason why she wouldn't is if she believed she could turn them away from the Dark Side. I don't get the impression of that here.

Or you know, she could make them surrender and they could take them back to the rebellion and question them extensively about where they've taken other children, where the Citadel Inquisitorious (or its canon equivalent) is, get confessions from them on record that Palpatine is Darth Sidious, Arch-Traitor, who steals Imperial citizens' children, if they know that, to use in Rebellion propaganda.

Then they can stand trial before a Alliance Revolutionary Troika or whatever their equivalent is, and then you could execute them if appropriate, with a measure of due process. It's not like these two could have overpowered Ahsoka on their own.

There's lots of uses for a live prisoner.

[Batman]

While Ahsoka won out in the end I don't think it was a guaranteed outcome, and I'm not sure Ezra's the one we should be worried about.

[Thanas]

Hasn't Vader's style changed though, since being in the suit? He doesn't really fight like Anakin did. And I'm not an expert but with the whole two blades thing I don't think Ahsoka really fights like Anakin, either. Though Anakin did train her, but her relationship with Plo Koon suggests he was not the only one. Somebody taught her the two blades thing, and that wasn't really Anakin's thing from what we've seen.

Her style of gripping the hilts reminded me a lot of Ventress. Obviously she fought with two blades before and Ventress surely did not train her, but it looks as if they recycle some of the animations.

[Adam Reynolds]

It was my understanding that Anakin broke the Jedi's rules when he executed Dooku.

Not entirely, at least not according to Mace Windu. He was willing to execute Palpatine even after disarmed. In the novelization Mace even argued that killing Palpatine was no different than killing Dooku to justify it for Anakin. So apparently they didn't have much of a problem with it.

Though none of the Jedi could have known that Dooku was literally disarmed, perhaps that colored their perceptions of the killing. Especially since its not like they could really sense his death in the Force given how much it was clouded at that point.

[The Romulan Republic]

Hasn't Vader's style changed though, since being in the suit? He doesn't really fight like Anakin did. And I'm not an expert but with the whole two blades thing I don't think Ahsoka really fights like Anakin, either. Though Anakin did train her, but her relationship with Plo Koon suggests he was not the only one. Somebody taught her the two blades thing, and that wasn't really Anakin's thing from what we've seen.

Her style of gripping the hilts reminded me a lot of Ventress. Obviously she fought with two blades before and Ventress surely did not train her, but it looks as if they recycle some of the animations.

Isn't Ventress not a Sith lackie anymore?

And she has worked with good guys before. So I'd say its possible that she and Ashoka collaborated at some point since The Clone Wars, and borrowed some ideas from each other.

[Rogue 9]

Also, Palpatine was throwing some serious sorcery around his office there; not having his lightsaber certainly didn't mean he was disarmed, as we saw in the scene and Windu knew full well.

[The Romulan Republic]

Its very hard, if not impossible, to disarm a Force user as long as they're conscious, unless they've brought Ysalamiri back into canon.

[RogueIce]

Isn't Ventress not a Sith lackie anymore?

And she has worked with good guys before. So I'd say its possible that she and Ashoka collaborated at some point since The Clone Wars, and borrowed some ideas from each other.

Ventress didn't survive the Clone Wars. Although there was some concept art of her and Ahsoka working together (I think - they were together for some reason) for the unreleased episodes, so who can say?

But she was also fighting with two sabers well before then so I doubt she would have been "trained" by Ventress; she was quite proficient already by the time she walked away from the Order.

[Adam Reynolds]

Its very hard, if not impossible, to disarm a Force user as long as they're conscious, unless they've brought Ysalamiri back into canon.

I suspect a serious but nonlethal injury would have that effect(like chopping off limbs or causing severe cuts). Especially if immediately afterwards they are put in a stasis field like we see with Obi-Wan in AOTC. Given the minor electrical discharges we see with that field, I suspect that it works to neutralize the Force users abilities by giving them a constant low level electrical jolt that prevents them from focusing.

In Clone Wars, even cuffs seem to have some effect at neutralizing Jedi. Though in the old canon they were often referred to as stuncuffs, which had a slightly weaker version of the stasis field mentioned above.

Ventress didn't survive the Clone Wars. Although there was some concept art of her and Ahsoka working together (I think - they were together for some reason) for the unreleased episodes, so who can say?

That wasn't for unreleased episodes, that was for the last episodes to air on Cartoon Network(To Catch a Jedi was one in the arc, can't remember the rest). Ashoka was framed for bombing the Jedi temple and went on the run. She encountered Ventress, who at the time was working as a bounty hunter, and Ventress agreed to help her because reasons(also can't remember the logic exactly).

I rather liked that it gave Ashoka a nice way of bowing out that left her able to survive the downfall of the Jedi. It was a nice end to the series. I vastly preferred it to the 6th season finale with Yoda and the acid trip.

What source showed Ventress dying? It wasn't Clone Wars. Was it a tie in novel?

[The Romulan Republic]

As long as Ventress survived the series The Clone Wars by any significant amount of time, then she could have worked with Ashoka before her death.

Edit: Unless, of course, it has been confirmed otherwise.

[RogueIce]

That wasn't for unreleased episodes, that was for the last episodes to air on Cartoon Network(To Catch a Jedi was one in the arc, can't remember the rest). Ashoka was framed for bombing the Jedi temple and went on the run. She encountered Ventress, who at the time was working as a bounty hunter, and Ventress agreed to help her because reasons(also can't remember the logic exactly).

As a rather big fan of TCW, I'm well aware of that arc.

But from what I can find it looks like you're right. Maybe whatever site I got it from wrongly attributed it.

I rather liked that it gave Ashoka a nice way of bowing out that left her able to survive the downfall of the Jedi. It was a nice end to the series. I vastly preferred it to the 6th season finale with Yoda and the acid trip.

Luckily, some of the Clone Troopers will always remember her:

"Ahsoka Tano loyalist troopers, would have existed"

What source showed Ventress dying? It wasn't Clone Wars. Was it a tie in novel?

Yes. It was based on an eight episode arc that was never aired. "Dark Disciple" if you're curious, somebody did a thread of it on here awhile back.

As long as Ventress survived the series The Clone Wars by any significant amount of time, then she could have worked with Ashoka before her death.

Edit: Unless, of course, it has been confirmed otherwise.

According to this: http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/2015/ ... el-at.html

"Ventress would have had 8 episodes left on the series (same number of episodes that Dark Disciple is based on)"

So it looks like, according to Filoni, her death arc was also going to be her final appearance. So no working with Ahsoka. Frankly I'm not sure why you're even trying to run with this, since Thanas already said the most likely explanation for any "similarities" was reusing animation, which would be done for budgetary reasons, not to imply some kind of Ahoska/Ventress team up (beyond what we saw) or whatever.

[NecronLord]

While Ahsoka won out in the end I don't think it was a guaranteed outcome, and I'm not sure Ezra's the one we should be worried about.

Well certainly this week's Rebels Recon has Filoni saying 'She's never really in jeopardy in that fight' certainly I got the impression that the Inquisitors were no match whatsoever for Ahsoka.

Also a bit of speculation as to other things Palpatine wants to use force-senstitives for ("plugs them into a big system he has" to use them for his force farsight) which is interesting, though they say they'd never get to show it on Disney.

[The Romulan Republic]

Of course, the fact that Ashoka can handle two inquisitors all but ensures Vader will be sent after her in person sooner or later.

Probably they're saving that for a grand season finale showdown or cliffhanger.

[DarthPooky]

New clip a Corellien Corvette opens fire on ties finally.