Open-carry group to stage mock mass shooting at University of Texas

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Open-carry group to stage mock mass shooting at University of Texas

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AUSTIN, Texas -- Gun-rights groups that wanted to stage a mock mass shooting at the University of Texas agreed to move their event off-campus after a warning from the school that they could be arrested.

The groups Come and Take It Texas and Dontcomply.com announced plans for the Saturday event that would include cardboard guns and fake blood, as well as gunshot audio played on a megaphone, reports CBS Austin affiliate KEYE-TV.

The Austin campus is the site of one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history: Sniper Charles Whitman killed 16 people in 1966, shooting dozens of victims from a perch atop the central clock tower.

KEYE says students are concerned about the groups' plans.

"People are already scared with everything that's going on in the world and it's kind of nice to have a safe place which I feel like UT is. To have something like that occur, even if it was fake, I think makes people feel very endangered," UT junior Jazy Hill told the station.

The university issued a statement Wednesday warning that the Austin campus isn't open to outside groups staging demonstrations. The university said violators could face criminal trespassing charges.

The groups then said they would move their demonstration to an area next to campus.

Organizers said the purpose of staging a mock shooting is to rally support for gun rights. The event would come less than two weeks after shooters killed 14 people in San Bernardino, California.

"More than likely we're just going to be moving it 20-30 feet over to the public land that's adjacent to the property ... still using UT as the backdrop for the event," Murdoch Pizgatti, president and founder of DontComply.com and Come and Take It Texas, told KEYE.

Pizgatti says the mock shooting won't be realistic and is not designed to cause panic. He says the dramatization will show what happens when someone takes hostages in a gun free zone. There will also been another scenario showing how the situation is different when civilians are armed.

"These are the environments that this happens in and it's due to them being gun free zones," Pizgatti said.

University officials said they support free speech but outside groups are routinely barred from demonstrating on campus.

"When outside individuals come on campus and violate our rules regarding use of our grounds and facilities, they are asked to leave. If they do not, it becomes a criminal trespass matter," Texas spokesman J.B. Bird said.

The groups planning the mock mass shooting would coincide with a planned "open carry" march in Austin with demonstrators carrying long rifles.

State law currently bans guns from college campuses, but that will change next year. State lawmakers voted to allow concealed handgun license holders to bring their weapons on campus, including classrooms and dorms, with some limitations.

University of Texas officials will soon release recommendations on where concealed handguns will be allowed and where they will still be prohibited.

The law has met vigorous resistance from students and faculty. Some teachers have threated to quit or sue if they are not allowed to ban guns from their classrooms.

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Re: Open-carry group to stage mock mass shooting at University of Texas

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Yeah, this is fucking stupid. Don't be the PETA of gun rights, guys.

If some gun rights group planning to stage a mock mass shooting as a military scenario, I could get behind that. The results would be skewed by the fact that the participants know ahead of time what's about to happen and that they're not in any real danger, but it's not just disruptive public propaganda.
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Grumman wrote:Yeah, this is fucking stupid. Don't be the PETA of gun rights, guys.

If some gun rights group planning to stage a mock mass shooting as a military scenario, I could get behind that. The results would be skewed by the fact that the participants know ahead of time what's about to happen and that they're not in any real danger, but it's not just disruptive public propaganda.
Pretty much how I feel. I support gun rights but I don't support acting like an idiot with those rights. Doing stupid shit like this or the posing with assault rifle in restaurants while flagging a shitton of people while having the finger on the trigger thus breaking two and possibly more of the most fundamental rules of gun safety. Just because one has a right doesn't mean they have the right to be irresponsible with it.

Plus this is just stupid, will get terrible press, and make gun owners look like idiots.

The only way it could be useful is as a training exercise to show students and people what to do should a mass shooting happen. To show people how to get to safety, to let some OC or CC carriers have some simulated practice using their weapons in a mass shooting scenario so they aren't as jittery and prone to missing if the actual shit goes down.

As it is now its a stupid PR stunt.

And whats even the point of this demonstration anyway? Trying to show how easily people are taken out in a gun free zone because shockingly criminals don't follow the law? Everybody but the most deluded idiots already know those laws are shitty and don't work. Those that think those signs will magically stop a criminal aren't going to be swayed by this demonstration. Everyone else either supports weapons on campus will already agree with weapons on campus and those that don't will not be swayed either because they already know the laws don't work but feel for whatever reason having legal guns on campus is worse then leaving people vulnerable to any criminal or illiterate person.
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"Responsible" gun owners these assholes aren't. Know what guns never are, under any circumstances? Toys.

Fucking idiots.
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When idiots are given guns, idiocy becomes something else entirely.
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