Micheal Moore: Oscar Rant

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-03-23 10:50pm

fgalkin wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:I thought what Adrien Brody just did was very tasteful. Definitely a refresher.
Daniel Day-Lewis deserved to win.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Probably. I haven't seen The Pianist but Day-Lewis was awesome in Gangs.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2003-03-23 10:56pm

How long before the winner for best leading actress? Go Nicole!

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-03-23 10:57pm

Durran Korr wrote:
fgalkin wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:I thought what Adrien Brody just did was very tasteful. Definitely a refresher.
Daniel Day-Lewis deserved to win.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin
Probably. I haven't seen The Pianist but Day-Lewis was awesome in Gangs.

He already has an Oscar, however, while it was Adrian's first nomination.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-03-23 11:28pm

Montcalm wrote:....even if i`m French Canadian........oops i mean Freedom Canadian.....

Hilarious, Montcalm, bravo!

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-03-23 11:54pm

Well I thought it was classy that he invited the rest of the nominees onstage with him ... then he just started going off like a loon.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-03-24 12:33am

Jeez, I wish I had watched it just to see him get laughed out...

Anyone know where I can get vid caps of this?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-03-24 12:40am

The local ABC station ran a few recaps with Moore getting booed, but I don't see any websites with vidcaps of the Oscars.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-03-24 12:42am

If anyone gets one, can you post it up here?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-03-24 01:28am

I don't see why celebrities are seen as being any more or less informed than the general public. Granted, some of them are fairly intelligent, but no more so than the general population. I don't understand why Americans treat celebrities in movies as being any different from them in terms of (say) global politics and economics.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-03-24 01:31am

holy jumpin jesus i just saw what he did. my gods what the fuck is wrong with that man? doesnt he ever stop his little crusade or will he try to drill it into everyones head no matter what the situation that he doesnt like bush?

i mean fuck, i dont like the president terribly, but i dont bring it up every fucking chance i get.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-03-24 01:36am

kojikun wrote:holy jumpin jesus i just saw what he did. my gods what the fuck is wrong with that man? doesnt he ever stop his little crusade or will he try to drill it into everyones head no matter what the situation that he doesnt like bush?

i mean fuck, i dont like the president terribly, but i dont bring it up every fucking chance i get.

Yeah, why can't he be like all of the other actors and musicians and athletes, who use their time in the spotlight to publicly affirm their religious faith?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-03-24 01:40am

Incidentally, I guess I should point out the obvious irony with ultra-liberal celebrities. Essentially, they are re-affirming the rights of lower-class people. That's good. The problem is, they begin to ACT LIKE ELITISTS by assuming that their views should override those of others and begin going for conversions.

In reality, I don't care what kind of a celebrity you are, or what your political views may be. If you don't have some specific knowledge (ie. You researched the latest role for a part in a movie by going to Iraq to see how people there live, you worked in a coal-mine for a month to try to write a history of the coal-mine communities in PA, you wrote a research paper on the lives of Guatamalen working-class citizens, etc.) I don't see why your opinion is any better than mine.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-03-24 06:49am

It's not just political views that piss me off(well, some of them do) it's that he hijacked a comletely unrelated forum, on that should have been used for reflection and congratulation, to shove his views down the throats of everyone else.

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-03-24 07:38am

phongn wrote:The local ABC station ran a few recaps with Moore getting booed, but I don't see any websites with vidcaps of the Oscars.

Here is one, RM only so I haven't seen it.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/real/ram/ ... ore,00.ram

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-03-24 09:00am

Hehehe, quality, right there.

Notice the looks on everyones faces like 'WTF?'

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-03-24 12:09pm

I applaud what he did. It took a lot of balls to say what people didn't want to hear at such a pomp and ceremony event, and it was something that really needed to be said with all the millions watching.

EDIT: Just read the rest of this thread. I'm seeing a lot of anger and zero logic and rebuttal, which tells me he said exactly what needed to be said.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-03-24 12:20pm

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I applaud what he did. It took a lot of balls to say what people didn't want to hear at such a pomp and ceremony event, and it was something that really needed to be said with all the millions watching.

EDIT: Just read the rest of this thread. I'm seeing a lot of anger and zero logic and rebuttal, which tells me he said exactly what needed to be said.

Yeah, standing up on a stage in hollywood and talking smack, it must take a hairy pair for that. He's a class clown and I've stopped thinking that class clowns have bravery and courage about 15 years ago in Jr High. If he had balls (and I have seen him do this) he would go onto a political forum with an advarsary and not use an entertainment show to espouse his political views.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-03-24 12:25pm

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I applaud what he did. It took a lot of balls to say what people didn't want to hear at such a pomp and ceremony event, and it was something that really needed to be said with all the millions watching.

EDIT: Just read the rest of this thread. I'm seeing a lot of anger and zero logic and rebuttal, which tells me he said exactly what needed to be said.

Oh, bullshit. The Academy Awards ceremony is not a political forum, it's an event designed to honor achievement in film. Why couldn't Michael Moore just go up there, accept his award and give a nice acceptance speech like everyone else who gets one instead of being an opportunistic prick?

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-03-24 12:27pm

Knife wrote:
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I applaud what he did. It took a lot of balls to say what people didn't want to hear at such a pomp and ceremony event, and it was something that really needed to be said with all the millions watching.

EDIT: Just read the rest of this thread. I'm seeing a lot of anger and zero logic and rebuttal, which tells me he said exactly what needed to be said.

Yeah, standing up on a stage in hollywood and talking smack, it must take a hairy pair for that. He's a class clown and I've stopped thinking that class clowns have bravery and courage about 15 years ago in Jr High. If he had balls (and I have seen him do this) he would go onto a political forum with an advarsary and not use an entertainment show to espouse his political views.

exactly! Since when does verbal masturbation in front of a room of predominatly like minded individuals with no chance of rebuttal count as ballsy? Put him in a room with William Kristol or Christopher Hitchens and then see how shallow he is.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-03-24 12:29pm

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:I applaud what he did. It took a lot of balls to say what people didn't want to hear at such a pomp and ceremony event, and it was something that really needed to be said with all the millions watching.

Uh-huh. So we should now begin shoving our opinions down the throats of other people on events that have no connection to politics? Uh-huh. You know what, I have acting experience. Therefore, I'm as qualified as he to comment on this. And I say: He's a fucking retarded moron.

EDIT: Just read the rest of this thread. I'm seeing a lot of anger and zero logic and rebuttal, which tells me he said exactly what needed to be said.

Or that we are so blown away that he would use an awards ceremony to further his retarded political platform.. But hey, let's interperate things however they help your side the most, eh?

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-03-24 12:38pm

The "Soybomb" guy who jumped on stage and danced along with Bob Dylan at the Grammys a few years back had more guts than Moore. He coulda been arrested and had his ass tossed in jail for making an ass of himself. The worst that coulda happened to Moore is to get booed and heckled and perhaps have people lose respect for him. Big deal, lots of guts needed for that.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-03-24 12:44pm

You want something that requires balls? Okay.

Go to a country half a world away, full of people who may very well use chemical or biological agents against you, or fake surrendering to kill you, or any of a thousand other nasty things on top of dying in normal combat. All the while, take abuse from those back home who call you a babykiller, a nazi, etc.. But do it anyway because Saddam is a dangerous, cruel son of a bitch and someone has to get rid of him and his sons.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2003-03-24 12:50pm

Oh boo-hoo, so he disrespected the Oscars, as if they had any respect to dis. Your worldview can't handle criticism, and you resent him for giving it before you had time to set up your mental defenses.

theski · Post by **theski** » 2003-03-24 12:50pm

I love the quote about " if the Pope and the Dixie Chicks are against you" gee Fat Boy do ya think the Pope is on your side in the abortion debate..He is just like George Clooney take a couple of shots and run away from any questions...http://www.michaelmoore.com/ Here is the website with his letter to GOV bush it would be a shame if the site crashed..

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-03-24 12:54pm

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:Oh boo-hoo, so he disrespected the Oscars, as if they had any respect to dis. Your worldview can't handle criticism, and you resent him for giving it before you had time to set up your mental defenses.

Nice strawman!

The oscar's is not a place for politics. Those that watch do not want politics. So it is highly inappropriate and disrespectful to those watching to use it as a political platform. But nevermind, it's helping your case, so let's pretend it's okay, hrm?