Casualties of War: US kills refugees

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2003-03-24 09:55am

US was hoped to be merciful to refugees. Instead, they killed refugees by firing a missile in their bus.
Casualties of war, what can I say?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-24 10:04am

Shit happens in war. This sort of thing is to be expected. But overall even the Iraqi government its self is not claiming all that many civilian deaths. And when you consider that over a thousand cruise missiles have been fired and a similar number of heavy bombs dropped, most of them hitting targets in urban areas the numbers are extremely low.

Dark Primus · Post by **Dark Primus** » 2003-03-24 10:06am

I heard a bus had been hit, killing 5, wounded 10 or something and that was in Jordania or Syria? And a witness blamed the coalition forces for it.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-03-24 10:08am

I'd like a fucking link.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2003-03-24 10:10am

You can check it on Al-Jazeera, I suppose. I've seen the video footage on both ORT, the prime Russian TV channel, and on C1 (a German cable channel).

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2003-03-24 10:11am

Ender wrote:I'd like a fucking link.

Here but it is in Swedish only.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/s ... 54,00.html

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-03-24 10:15am

Stas Bush wrote:You can check it on Al-Jazeera, I suppose. I've seen the video footage on both ORT, the prime Russian TV channel, and on C1 (a German cable channel).

Al-Jazeera is not objective its run by fundies.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2003-03-24 10:28am

Montcalm
Of course.

But it was found to be more truthful than the "great" CNN. If you like independent mass-media: come to Russia. Here are 2 gov-independent channels with reporters in Baghdad. Or any European country which has it's own independent news.

Dark Primus · Post by **Dark Primus** » 2003-03-24 10:29am

Faram wrote:
Ender wrote:I'd like a fucking link.
Here but it is in Swedish only.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/s ... 54,00.html

Thank You.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-03-24 10:33am

Stas Bush wrote:Montcalm
Of course. But it was found to be more truthful than the "great" CNN. If you like independent mass-media: come to Russia. Here are 2 gov-independent channels with reporters in Baghdad. Or any European country which has it's own independent news.

I have access to independant news in Canada.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2003-03-24 10:44am

Montcalm
Why then, haven't you seen them a few hours ago?

They would have told about the bus.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-03-24 10:46am

Stas Bush wrote:Montcalm
Why then, haven't you seen them a few hours ago? They would have told about the bus.

I heard about the bus but they did`nt say anything an american missile hitting it.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2003-03-24 10:49am

Uh... then it's not quite honest of them...

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-03-24 10:52am

Stas Bush wrote:Uh... then it's not quite honest of them...

But they did like the rest of the world they`ve shown the faces of the American POWs while on english channel they were blurred.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-24 10:53am

Stas Bush wrote:US was hoped to be merciful to refugees. Instead, they killed refugees by firing a missile in their bus.
Casualties of war, what can I say?

We had a very heated discussion a week ago about Kirkiuk, between
Duchess of Zeon, me, and pretty much everyone on the board.

Duchess said those people fleeing Kirkuk were stupid because they'd
be on the roads when a war started...

Everyone else said: They're smart, getting out BEFORE the war starts
and when travel on the roads becomes dangerous...

Why couldn't these idiots have left during the buildup...

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2003-03-24 10:55am

MkSheppard
Maybe because they love their country and hoped till the last moment everything would end peacefully.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-03-24 02:25pm

Stas Bush wrote:Montcalm
Of course. But it was found to be more truthful than the "great" CNN. If you like independent mass-media: come to Russia. Here are 2 gov-independent channels with reporters in Baghdad. Or any European country which has it's own independent news.

Independent, owned by the government news?

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2003-03-24 03:08pm

Sources on the bus incident:

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/03/24/Syriabus_030324
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2881119.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0, ... 35,00.html

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-24 03:14pm

It's a damn shame. Unfortunately war is a messy and deadly business. I hope the US will do whatever we can for such innocent victims. Such things happen, especially when the lines between civilian get blurred.

Alex Moon · Post by **Alex Moon** » 2003-03-24 03:35pm

Pentagon briefing going on. According to the Pentagon, the pilot of an american plane was bombing a target, a bridge or something, and the bus came into his sights after he had released the bomb. It seems to just have been an accident.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2003-03-24 03:40pm

Alex Moon wrote:Pentagon briefing going on. According to the Pentagon, the pilot of an american plane was bombing a target, a bridge or something, and the bus came into his sights after he had released the bomb. It seems to just have been an accident.

The bus was reported to be in Syria. What are the Americans doing dropping bombs on Syrian bridges?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-24 03:42pm

Enlightenment wrote:
Alex Moon wrote:Pentagon briefing going on. According to the Pentagon, the pilot of an american plane was bombing a target, a bridge or something, and the bus came into his sights after he had released the bomb. It seems to just have been an accident.
The bus was reported to be in Syria. What are the Americans doing dropping bombs on Syrian bridges?

If it was close to the border they might have been bombing an Iraqi bridge and seen the bus in syria. There isn't a great big stripe on the desert floor saying syria | Iraq.

Enlightenment · Post by **Enlightenment** » 2003-03-24 03:45pm

Stormbringer wrote:If it was close to the border they might have been bombing an Iraqi bridge and seen the bus in syria. There isn't a great big stripe on the desert floor saying syria | Iraq.

No but there should be a great big stripe on the pilot's map with one side marked 'free fire zone' and the other 'do not touch.' Since the advent of GPS it isn't not too much to ask for the pilots to know which country they're bombing.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-03-24 03:47pm

People die in war. Mistakes happen when they shouldn't.

So it goes.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-03-24 04:00pm

Enlightenment wrote:No but there should be a great big stripe on the pilot's map with one side marked 'free fire zone' and the other 'do not touch.' Since the advent of GPS it isn't not too much to ask for the pilots to know which country they're bombing.

Mistakes happen.

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