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The Battle of Jakku is a major portion of the Star Wars novel "Lost Stars" which isn't all that old I think. You can also take part in the battle in Star Wars battlefront if that's your kind of thing.biostem wrote: Why is there a crashed Star destroyer, AT-AT, and other ships on the planet? Someone coming to the movie, only having watched the others, should get some inkling of what happened...
Perhaps they'll make another TV show, which covers the gap between Eps VI and VII
That's something I expect we'll see a bit more of in the next two filmsbiostem wrote:For instance, how did Rey, who we see was abandoned at like age 5-7, survive to adulthood? Where'd she pick up all those skills from?
This is Star Wars we're talking about - the key word in this case being war. Since this is the aftermath, it makes sense that some of the debris would still be lying around. On Earth, that debris is a burned-out tank by the side of the road, on Jakku it's an Executor and a few ISDs half buried in sand dunes. Why and how those ships ended up on that planet is irrelevant.Why is there a crashed Star destroyer, AT-AT, and other ships on the planet? Someone coming to the movie, only having watched the others, should get some inkling of what happened...
Agreed. He is probably the most overrated and overhyped writer in recent memory.Grumman wrote:I think he's bad for everything. Abrams, Lindelof, Orci and Kurtzman are four names that I never want to see on a script.
I agree with you that there was no need to discuss the details of that battle specifically, but it's still true that they gave very little context for what was going on in the universe. They had a brief and vague blurb in the opening scrawl, but there was no dialogue or anything that really gave a decent hint as to what was going on. I do expect they will build on that more, but it was still disorienting at times. I somewhat expect that this movie will look a bit better (in terms of the plot holes and inconsistencies that some people have been commenting on) when viewed through the context of whatever we learn in the next two films.Captain Seafort wrote: This is Star Wars we're talking about - the key word in this case being war. Since this is the aftermath, it makes sense that some of the debris would still be lying around. On Earth, that debris is a burned-out tank by the side of the road, on Jakku it's an Executor and a few ISDs half buried in sand dunes. Why and how those ships ended up on that planet is irrelevant.
There are certainly aspects of the film that could have done with a rethink, but the first half of it was very solid.
It was (briefly) covered. You see that "Half Portion" alien guy put his hand on her shoulder. Apparently, she was entrusted to him initially. And it seems he at least took care of her until adulthood when she set out on her own. Given he appears to be the sort of "Boss Man" of their scavenger village.Captain Seafort wrote:That's something I expect we'll see a bit more of in the next two filmsbiostem wrote:For instance, how did Rey, who we see was abandoned at like age 5-7, survive to adulthood? Where'd she pick up all those skills from?
Which is, frankly, really good. He delivered a very solid close out to one classic character's story, and got us invested in the stories of the others, and now people can build new worlds for those characters to explore in, and to explain things he left rough a bit better (which is a Star Wars tradition in itself ^^)Lord Revan wrote:well as far as we know JJ Abrams has 0 input on Episodes 8 and 9 so it remains to see if his successors can build up on the universe or not.
That is not reassuring. If Jurassic World was a Star Wars novel, it would be written by Kevin J. Anderson.Borgholio wrote:Colin Trevorrow is directing Episode 9 and he did Jurassic World.
Not as good as the original Jurassic Park, better than The Lost World. It was a fun movie, and Chris Pratt nailed it completely. It got me to care about raptors as characters, which is kinda fun. But it had its issues. From my perspective, they got the raptor training pretty much right in terms of the methodology (not necessarily what you can do with it and the raptor social system...oh dear) but at least the biological errors Made Sense. There were however some odd effects problems (if you want I will PM them to you, mostly having to do with scaling). There were a few scenes that from a writing perspective made little sense as well (just in terms of the narrative structure of movies like this. The Rules Of Disaster/Monster films). There was a subversion of a movie trope that just... failed...as well.Borgholio wrote:I'll admit I never saw Jurassic World myself, but I heard from all my friends that it was an entertaining movie. Is it really not all that good?
I would say it's a bad movie. For me, a good movie is one that has enjoyable lowbrow stuff, but is still passable at everything else. Jurassic Park qualifies, because the cool stuff was cool and everything else was adequate to not offend my sensibilities.Borgholio wrote:I'll admit I never saw Jurassic World myself, but I heard from all my friends that it was an entertaining movie. Is it really not all that good?
To be fair, the failings of Jurassic World were more script-based than direction-based, as I recall.Grumman wrote:That is not reassuring. If Jurassic World was a Star Wars novel, it would be written by Kevin J. Anderson.Borgholio wrote:Colin Trevorrow is directing Episode 9 and he did Jurassic World.
Well, to be fair, wasn't it either outright stated or heavily implied that the reason their security measures were so inadequate was the fact that the InGen security chief and Dr. Wu had kept secret from them some of the abilities they had bred into Indomitus Rex? I mean, the movie had plenty of plot holes, but there was at least more justification given then JUST "clever girl".Grumman wrote:That's the kind of insulting stupidity we usually get out of zombie movies.
10 Of The Greatest Zoo Animal EscapesGrumman wrote:[...] Jurassic Park and Jurassic World are, at heart, zoos. They are facilities where animals are bred, raised and displayed for the public. This is basically a solved problem. In Jurassic Park containment only failed because a human sabotaged the security system so that he could commit a bit of industrial espionage. Jurassic World pretends that a mere beast could engineer its own escape through guile. That's the kind of insulting stupidity we usually get out of zombie movies.
J.J. Abrams is the Vanilla Ice of film, so I wouldn't wish his clown act on the Twilight series, let alone something I liked.Grumman wrote:I think he's bad for everything. Abrams, Lindelof, Orci and Kurtzman are four names that I never want to see on a script.
I bought Star Wars Rebel Assault as a kid and that's the only star wars merchandice ive I've bought, owned or used, except Pod Racer game for PC in 1999.Broomstick wrote:I think the point was that not everyone is involved in the extended universe and there should be some consideration for the people shelling out buck to see the movie who aren't from the hardcore "buy everything" fanbase.
