French Fries get new name in the House

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-03-23 02:37pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Dahak wrote:Someone should mention that the Statue of Liberty is originally French
Yes, they'll have to destroy it. And renovators should sweep through all of the homes in America to destroy any french doors they find. In addition, all pornography featuring french lace or french maid outfits must be purged (or at least, rounded up and sent to Canada).

Does that mean we get to send back Mike Meyer and William Shatner, too? Because, you know, if there's a refund we can collect on those guys...

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-03-23 02:46pm

Lonestar wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Question: if they wanted to take the "French" out of "french fries", why couldn't they simply call them "fries"? Why this idiotically jingoistic "Freedom fries" bullshit?

Maybe they should just go all the way and call them "Captain America fries", or "Beacon of Democracy fries", or perhaps "Saviour of the Civilized World fries".
*Ahem* Savior of the Civilized World fries.

Agreed. Before you know it, we'll be outlawing using "ou" in words like "color" and "savior."

THEHOOLIGANJEDI · Post by **THEHOOLIGANJEDI** » 2003-03-23 09:30pm

Durandal wrote:
Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:"Freedom Fries"... For some reason, I find that fucking funny.

What's next, are they going to call it something besides french-kissing?
Dunno, but it'll likely be nationalistic, jingoistic and stupid. Something like "God-Bless-America-kissing."

All of this reminds me of what they did with Germany during WW1&2 and they were our enemies. Frace is and ally of our and we are treating them like the are commiting mass genocide. We are actually treating the french worse when you think of it, when are those conservative fascists gonna stop mixing up patriotism with extreme nationalism, oppps Fascism and nationalism goes hand in hand.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-03-24 01:25pm

THEHOOLIGANJEDI wrote:
Durandal wrote:
Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:"Freedom Fries"... For some reason, I find that fucking funny.

What's next, are they going to call it something besides french-kissing?
Dunno, but it'll likely be nationalistic, jingoistic and stupid. Something like "God-Bless-America-kissing."
All of this reminds me of what they did with Germany during WW1&2 and they were our enemies. Frace is and ally of our and we are treating them like the are commiting mass genocide. We are actually treating the french worse when you think of it, when are those conservative fascists gonna stop mixing up patriotism with extreme nationalism, oppps Fascism and nationalism goes hand in hand.

Patriotism (okay, maybe just my idealistic definition of it) has nothing to do with Fascism.

Patriotism=Being proud of your country (not necessarily your government)
Fascism=Hating anything not of your country.

Maybe my definitions are not spot-on accurate, but by my definitions, all this anti-French sentiment is just fucking disgusting. Besides which, it's fucking nonsensical! Most people I have ever met who had anything against the French based it on the fact that the French surrendered to Nazi Germany in WWII... so what about French opposition to military conflict did these dumb fuckers not expect? And if they did expect it, what are they pissing and moaning about?

Wow -- I bet I just committed a whole shitload of logical fallacies there, but assfucked if I can point them out. Coffee. This creature needs coffee.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-03-24 05:50pm

Durandal wrote:
Lonestar wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Question: if they wanted to take the "French" out of "french fries", why couldn't they simply call them "fries"? Why this idiotically jingoistic "Freedom fries" bullshit?

Maybe they should just go all the way and call them "Captain America fries", or "Beacon of Democracy fries", or perhaps "Saviour of the Civilized World fries".
*Ahem* Savior of the Civilized World fries.
Agreed. Before you know it, we'll be outlawing using "ou" in words like "color" and "savior."

Isn't using "ou" associated more with the British? But it doesn't really matter for the "Freedom Fries" brigade, because I'm sure if they could, they would be renaming anything that sounds French.

Lingerie would be "Freedom undies", and Cafés would be "Freddom coffee shops", for example.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2003-03-24 08:58pm

CmdrSweevo wrote:"The Americans are so disgusted with the French that a national campaign is under way to rename "French fries", and call them "freedom fries". Wouldn't it be marvellous if the Americans finally saw sense, by the way, and called them "chips"? "

Only problem with that is that we already have potatoes called chips.
http://www.herrs.com/

As for "Freedom Fries", why are you all actually paying attention to it?

Go to your local Mcdonalds or Burger King and just say.

"I'll order the whopper *or Big Mac* value meal plz"

Or whatever the hell you order.

Cyaround,
Jason

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-03-24 09:04pm

Soontir C'boath wrote:
CmdrSweevo wrote:"The Americans are so disgusted with the French that a national campaign is under way to rename "French fries", and call them "freedom fries". Wouldn't it be marvellous if the Americans finally saw sense, by the way, and called them "chips"? "
Only problem with that is that we already have potatoes called chips.
http://www.herrs.com/

As for "Freedom Fries", why are you all actually paying attention to it?

Go to your local Mcdonalds or Burger King and just say.
"I'll order the whopper *or Big Mac* value meal plz"
Or whatever the hell you order.

Cyaround,
Jason

They call French Fries "chips" in England, right? If they do that, then what do say instead of "chips"?

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2003-03-24 09:11pm

No no no...you didn't see it.

Wouldn't it be marvellous if the Americans finally saw sense, by the way, and called them "chips"? "

He said Americans not English.

Edit: But what would England call it? Well whatever the heck they want.

Cyaround,
Jason

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-03-24 09:40pm

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Patriotism (okay, maybe just my idealistic definition of it) has nothing to do with Fascism.

Patriotism=Being proud of your country (not necessarily your government)
Fascism=Hating anything not of your country.

Your definitions are a little odd. As I see it:

Patriotism = being proud of your country and willing to sacrifice for it.

Jingoism = being proud of your country and expressing that pride by constantly bragging about how you are superior to every other nation on Earth

Fascism = strict authoritarian government which does not respect most human rights.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-03-25 12:37pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Patriotism (okay, maybe just my idealistic definition of it) has nothing to do with Fascism.

Patriotism=Being proud of your country (not necessarily your government)
Fascism=Hating anything not of your country.
Your definitions are a little odd. As I see it:

Patriotism = being proud of your country and willing to sacrifice for it.

Jingoism = being proud of your country and expressing that pride by constantly bragging about how you are superior to every other nation on Earth

Fascism = strict authoritarian government which does not respect most human rights.

Thanks for the clarification. Good to see that we agree that Patriotism does not equal Fascism. In fact, that's kinda funny in that most of these little rich college kids who scream about this country being fascist in order to promote communism (it's the trendy thing to do, you see) are actually promoting a system of government that has almost invariably mutated into fascism. Oh, the irony.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-03-25 12:45pm

I think there's a distinction between Patriotism and Nationalism. Maybe that's what you meant Raoul?

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-03-25 03:37pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote: They call French Fries "chips" in England, right? If they do that, then what do say instead of "chips"?

We don't need to. There's no French connotations in the word 'chips'.

...?

I don't understand the question. Chips are chips. Proper chips, made from real slices of real potatoes....

Oh Gods, I want some chips...

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-03-25 03:50pm

innerbrat wrote:
Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote: They call French Fries "chips" in England, right? If they do that, then what do say instead of "chips"?
We don't need to. There's no French connotations in the word 'chips'.

...?

I don't understand the question. Chips are chips. Proper chips, made from real slices of real potatoes....

Oh Gods, I want some chips...

He's talking about chips not chips.
The chips the whole world calls chips but which you call crisps because you call french fries chips.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-03-25 04:03pm

Cpt_Frank wrote:He's talking about chips not chips.
The chips the whole world calls chips but which you call crisps because you call french fries chips.

For 'the whole world' read 'The USA', right?

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2003-03-25 04:16pm

innerbrat wrote:
Cpt_Frank wrote:He's talking about chips not chips.
The chips the whole world calls chips but which you call crisps because you call french fries chips.
For 'the whole world' read 'The USA', right?

And Germany, France, Austria, Italy, Poland and Greece (from personal experience) but I'm sure they're not the only ones.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2003-03-25 04:20pm

To be fair, I've never ever had chips in the states, only ever fries. (those processed thin things)
Maybe they only exist over here?

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-03-25 08:06pm

They should call all potato-based snacks Irish Fries. And make 'em green. And serve 'em with mustard. Gas. Yeah. I need sleep now.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-03-25 08:49pm

innerbrat wrote:To be fair, I've never ever had chips in the states, only ever fries. (those processed thin things)
Maybe they only exist over here?

If you're going to have fries in the states, call them "Freedom Fries"!

Actually, you odn't have to until the day John Ashcroft takes the stand and makes that the official name. As of now, it's only Freedom Fries to Congress and some immature people who are angry at the French.