Recommend some DS9!
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Recommend some DS9!
Hello all,
So similarly to my past thread a couple months ago about Doctor Who, which was actually pretty helpful...
Recommend me some Star Trek: Deep Space 9 episodes.
Background: I have Netflix. I would like to watch DS9. I don't have the time to go through the whole series, as nice as that might be. In my view, I would be best served by checking out a number of essential episodes that cover the principal storylines of moment rather than meandering through the series via random episodes. I do have a general idea of how the series runs, so spoilers are not a huge issue for me. I'm looking for enough episodes that I could get through it in a few months. However many that is, is up to you.
In particular, I'm interested in the Dominion War, which I realize is something like... two-thirds of the show. Significant events, contributory episodes, and what not. The Klingon Civil War and offensive against the Dominion might also be worth checking out.
Humorous side episodes are also worth noting; I've seen that one with Q and "Our Man Bashir", but you're welcome to recommend anything else that comes to mind.
Thank you all kindly!
So similarly to my past thread a couple months ago about Doctor Who, which was actually pretty helpful...
Recommend me some Star Trek: Deep Space 9 episodes.
Background: I have Netflix. I would like to watch DS9. I don't have the time to go through the whole series, as nice as that might be. In my view, I would be best served by checking out a number of essential episodes that cover the principal storylines of moment rather than meandering through the series via random episodes. I do have a general idea of how the series runs, so spoilers are not a huge issue for me. I'm looking for enough episodes that I could get through it in a few months. However many that is, is up to you.
In particular, I'm interested in the Dominion War, which I realize is something like... two-thirds of the show. Significant events, contributory episodes, and what not. The Klingon Civil War and offensive against the Dominion might also be worth checking out.
Humorous side episodes are also worth noting; I've seen that one with Q and "Our Man Bashir", but you're welcome to recommend anything else that comes to mind.
Thank you all kindly!
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Re: Recommend some DS9!
I would suggest you first watch Duet, as it is the first episode where DS9 really shines and shows how much depth it can have - and what good actors they actually are.
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Re: Recommend some DS9!
Duet needs a least a little setup Id have thought but for season 1 ou could probably get way with just it, the premiere and the finale.
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Re: Recommend some DS9!
Thank you gentlemen... so I can probably get by with just three episodes in the first season then? Good to know. There's more than that to the show, of course, isn't there
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Re: Recommend some DS9!
Generally, I found that the episodes that focused on Bajor and the resistance carried a lot more weight because the characters of Dukat, Odo and Kira were just more interesting than 99% of the federation.
So here is my take on it:
Season 1: 1-4, 15, 17-20
Episodes 1-4. 1 and 3 set up the plot and 4 is the one where character action first truly shines. Definitely watch at least 4. Then I found the next episodes to be pretty forgetful. It starts to get good again with Episode 1-15, which was pretty much inspired by the clash of progress vs traditional means of life. Episode 15 and 16 (which starts of highly annoying but has a great payoff) saved my interest in the show. 16 is utterly boring and silly but 17-20 are all worth watching. Especially the aforementioned duet.
From then you can just watch normally. Honestly, the show only suffers from a boring first season.
Highlights however include:
Season 2: 1-3, 5, 8, 14, 15, 16, 18, 18-26
Season 3: 1-3, 5 (ESPECIALLY 5 as it is one of the greatest stories ever in ST history), 7,9, 11-12, 13, 14, 17, 20-22, 24, 26
Season 4: 1-5, 10-19, (really good stretch) 22, 24-26
Season 5-7 I don't have access to right now so remind me in a few days and I will have it.
But honestly, I would just watch 1-4, 15-16, 17-20 from Season 1 and then watch it like a normal show.
So here is my take on it:
Season 1: 1-4, 15, 17-20
Episodes 1-4. 1 and 3 set up the plot and 4 is the one where character action first truly shines. Definitely watch at least 4. Then I found the next episodes to be pretty forgetful. It starts to get good again with Episode 1-15, which was pretty much inspired by the clash of progress vs traditional means of life. Episode 15 and 16 (which starts of highly annoying but has a great payoff) saved my interest in the show. 16 is utterly boring and silly but 17-20 are all worth watching. Especially the aforementioned duet.
From then you can just watch normally. Honestly, the show only suffers from a boring first season.
Highlights however include:
Season 2: 1-3, 5, 8, 14, 15, 16, 18, 18-26
Season 3: 1-3, 5 (ESPECIALLY 5 as it is one of the greatest stories ever in ST history), 7,9, 11-12, 13, 14, 17, 20-22, 24, 26
Season 4: 1-5, 10-19, (really good stretch) 22, 24-26
Season 5-7 I don't have access to right now so remind me in a few days and I will have it.
But honestly, I would just watch 1-4, 15-16, 17-20 from Season 1 and then watch it like a normal show.
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Re: Recommend some DS9!
I would love to watch it 'normally' but I really don't have the time for that, unfortunately... I would prefer to hit the highlights, so to speak. If it means I miss good moments in otherwise boring episodes, well, I will manage.
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Re: Recommend some DS9!
Thing is though that much of the evolution of the main characters (especially Bashir, O'Brien, Odo and Kira) are done in small moments. So you might miss out on a lot of subtext. It is not as bad as missing farscape but yeah it has an effect.
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A decision must be made in the life of every nation at the very moment when the grasp of the enemy is at its throat. Then, it seems that the only way to survive is to use the means of the enemy, to rest survival upon what is expedient, to look the other way. Well, the answer to that is 'survival as what'? A country isn't a rock. It's not an extension of one's self. It's what it stands for. It's what it stands for when standing for something is the most difficult! - Chief Judge Haywood
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Re: Recommend some DS9!
I had never seen "The Circle" and "The Siege" two-parter before, and only caught it recently. It was really well done. The Bajor arcs (with the exception of the Praphets and Pah-Wraith stuff IMO) were really effective stories.
A lot of one-off episodes did kind of turn into "What Fresh Hells Can We Drag O'Brien" through, but they are still entertaining.
A lot of one-off episodes did kind of turn into "What Fresh Hells Can We Drag O'Brien" through, but they are still entertaining.
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Re: Recommend some DS9!
Its a three parterNeoGoomba wrote:I had never seen "The Circle" and "The Siege" two-parter before, and only caught it recently. It was really well done. The Bajor arcs (with the exception of the Praphets and Pah-Wraith stuff IMO) were really effective stories.
A lot of one-off episodes did kind of turn into "What Fresh Hells Can We Drag O'Brien" through, but they are still entertaining.
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Re: Recommend some DS9!
There's also a fun sequel to TOS classic The Trouble With Tribbles in season 5.
Oh, and Little Green Men in season 4 is hilarious. Ferengi. Time travel. Roswell. Guess what happens...?
Oh, and Little Green Men in season 4 is hilarious. Ferengi. Time travel. Roswell. Guess what happens...?
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Re: Recommend some DS9!
I recommend Progress from season 1, it's not as good as Duet, but it does show Kira's evolving from terrorist/freedom fighter to someone who has to enforce the law on citizens.
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Re: Recommend some DS9!
If you want to go the War route....
Season 2
The Jem'Hadar
Season 3
The Search 1 & 2
The Abandoned
Improbable Cause/The Die is Cast
The Adversary
Season 4
The Way of the Warrior
Hippocratic Oath
Starship Down
Homefront/Paradise Lost
To the Death
Broken Link
Season 5
Apocalypse Rising
The Ship
Rapture
In Purgatory's Shadow/By Inferno's Light
Soldiers of the Empire
In the Cards
Call to Arms
Season 6
First six episodes (Occupation Arc)
The Magnificent Ferengi
One Little Ship
In the Pale Moonlight
Valiant
Tears of the Prophets
Season 7
Image in the Sand/Shadows and Symbols
Treachery, Faith and the Great River
Once More Unto the Breach
The Siege of AR-558
It's Only a Paper Moon
Chimera
Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges
Final 8 episodes + WYLB
Season 2
The Jem'Hadar
Season 3
The Search 1 & 2
The Abandoned
Improbable Cause/The Die is Cast
The Adversary
Season 4
The Way of the Warrior
Hippocratic Oath
Starship Down
Homefront/Paradise Lost
To the Death
Broken Link
Season 5
Apocalypse Rising
The Ship
Rapture
In Purgatory's Shadow/By Inferno's Light
Soldiers of the Empire
In the Cards
Call to Arms
Season 6
First six episodes (Occupation Arc)
The Magnificent Ferengi
One Little Ship
In the Pale Moonlight
Valiant
Tears of the Prophets
Season 7
Image in the Sand/Shadows and Symbols
Treachery, Faith and the Great River
Once More Unto the Breach
The Siege of AR-558
It's Only a Paper Moon
Chimera
Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges
Final 8 episodes + WYLB
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