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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-04/p ... es/7477548
Philippines police rewarded for killing traffickers as part of bounty election promise
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A Philippines politician said he had given more than $4,000 to police officers for killing drug traffickers — the first such rewards since president-elect Rodrigo Duterte promoted bounties for slain criminals.

Key points:

Rodrigo Duterte has pledged to kill tens of thousands of criminals
He has promised to pay $28,509 to law enforcers for killing drug lords
Police have confirmed killing at least 15 drug suspects
Mr Duterte won last month's elections in a landslide after pledging to wipe out crime by killing tens of thousands of criminals, and this week said he would pay bounties to law enforcement officers for dead drug traffickers.

Tomas Osmena, mayor-elect of Cebu, the nation's second-biggest city, offered similar rewards and announced on his Facebook page on Thursday night he had paid out $4,480 to police who killed three men he said were drug traffickers.

Mr Osmena posted a series of comments celebrating the deaths of the three men, as he lashed out at the Commission on Human Rights — a constitutionally mandated body — for investigating the circumstances of the May 28 killings.

"CHR = Criminals. Have. Rights. (Even more than the real victims)," Mr Osmena wrote.

Mr Osmena described one of the slain suspects, Rowen Secretaria, as one of Cebu's biggest drug dealers.

He did not return calls from AFP news agency requesting comment, and in a previous interview refused to disclose where the money for the bounties would come from.

Mr Osmena and Mr Duterte — like all winners in the national elections — will not take office until June 30.

But Mr Duterte this week urged security forces to begin the war on crime immediately, calling on them to kill criminals.

Mr Duterte announced on Tuesday he would pay $28,509 to law enforcers for killing drug lords, with lesser amounts for lower-ranking people in drug syndicates.

However, Mr Osmena's rewards are the first confirmation of a payment being made for killing a suspect.

Mr Duterte's law-and-order campaign pledges hypnotised millions of Filipinos hoping for quick solutions to the nation's deep-rooted problems of crime and corruption.

However, human rights groups and other critics voiced alarm that a Duterte presidency would lead to extrajudicial killings and a general breakdown in the rule of law.

A recent spate of drug suspects being killed has deepened those fears.

Police have confirmed killing at least 15 drug suspects, including Mr Secretaria and his group, since May 24.

However, police have insisted all of those deaths occurred because the suspects fought back, and there were no illegal killings.

Earlier this week, Mr Duterte told reporters there was justification for killing journalists who took bribes or engaged in other corrupt activities.
What do you think is going to happen when you offer people bountys to kill suspected criminals without a trial. Will people go, "fuck that's a shit idea," or "leave vigilante justice in fiction..." or ....

They might do the following


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5 dead in Philippines as Duterte-inspired street executions start
Carla P. Gomez, Joel Franco and Nestor P. Burgos Jr. | Philippine Daily Inquirer/ANN | Iloilo City, Philippines
Mon, June 6 2016 | 07:13 pm

All five men who were killed in the span of three days share one thing in common—being suspected of involvement in crimes, including the illegal drug trade.

Five bodies in three provinces in three days.

Five men, including a lawyer, fell victims to what appear to be cases of summary execution in Iloilo, Negros Occidental and Negros Oriental from Thursday to Saturday. The killings came as President-elect Rodrigo Duterte, who told police to get drug suspects dead or alive, prepared to assume office at the end of the month.

All share one thing in common—being suspected of involvement in crimes, including the illegal drug trade.

In Negros Occidental, a suspected drug supplier in the northern part of the province was killed by two motorcycle riding men in Calatrava town.

Habib Into, 49, of San Carlos City, who died of multiple gunshot wounds, was at the top of the list of most wanted drug suspects in San Carlos City and other areas, said Superintendent Jacob Crisostomo, San Carlos City police chief.

Some 10 grams of shabu and 21,000 pesos ( US$453 ) in cash were found from Into, police said.

A few hours later, a body was dumped by still unidentified men in Barangay Zone 15, Talisay City, also in Negros Occidental.

The victim, identified as Jeffrey Buencuchillo, 33, was tied and suffered multiple gunshot wounds. His hands were cut off.

Police found in the crime scene a cardboard with a message that read: “I am a member of Akyat Bahay, a thief, an addict. Don’t follow my example because you will be killed next.” ( Akyat Bahay means house burglar. )

In Negros Oriental, a lawyer was killed while he rode a tricycle to a pension house in Barangay Looc, Dumaguete City, around 10:20 a.m. on Friday.

Rex Agan Perewperew, 38 and a native of Siquijor, was also shot by motorcycle-riding men. He suffered three gunshot wounds in the back.

Police said Perewperew is being investigated for alleged involvement in drugs. He was out on bail for violation of the Comprehensive Dangerous Drugs Act of 2002.

In Iloilo, two men with criminal records were separately found dead with gunshot wounds on Saturday.

The body of Sherwin Taasan, 38, was found by a village watchman around 5:45am on a grassy lot in Barangay San Vicente in Leganes town, some 11 kilometers north of Iloilo City.

Inspector Gerry Leones, Leganes police chief, said Taasan had six gunshot wounds, including two in the head.

He was found with his hands tied behind his back with a black shoelace.

Taasan, a resident of Barangay Rizal Pala-Pala II in Iloilo City, had been arrested several times for snatching, Leones said, citing accounts from his live-in partner.

He is also facing a murder case.

Rotchel Navales, common-law wife of Taasan, said Taasan was on board a jeepney bound for Molo District when two armed men flagged down the vehicle and handcuffed him.

“The two said they were police and my husband has a warrant [of arrest] and they handcuffed him,” she told investigators at the Leganes police.

Navales said Taasan was involved in petty crimes and was once a drug user.

“Even though he was a thief, they should not have killed him. We have small children,” said Navales who has seven children with Taasan.

In Iloilo City, a 33-year-old ex-convict was found dead with 11 gunshot wounds around 3 a.m. in Barangay San Jose in Villa Arevalo District also on Saturday.

His hands were tied behind his back with a packing tape.

Police identified the victim as Lou Facto, a resident of Barangay Sooc, Villa Arevalo.

Facto had been recently released from detention for an illegal drugs or firearms case, according to Police Officer 2 Rhizan Magoleño, of the investigation section of the Arevalo police station.
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I foresee rapid backpedaling the moment politicians are killed for supposed corruption.
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Mr Osmena posted a series of comments celebrating the deaths of the three men, as he lashed out at the Commission on Human Rights — a constitutionally mandated body — for investigating the circumstances of the May 28 killings.

"CHR = Criminals. Have. Rights. (Even more than the real victims)," Mr Osmena wrote.
A smarter man would have deliberately misinterpreted the CHR's objective and said something like "Good. It is important that we have independent verification that the men killed were the criminals we were looking for, and that no innocent people were needlessly put in harm's way."
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I think this is how politicians find their heads in a guillotine.
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Mr. Osmena, do you really want to go back to the good old days of Marcos that badly?
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I can imagine situations where the state putting a price on someone's head is a reasonable course of action.

However, since that is tantamount to a death sentence, it cannot justly be done without a thorough trial in which the accused has a right to legal representation.
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This is going to go with innocent people killed and retroactively labeled "drug trafficker" just to get the money.

It will also make the actual drug traffickers more violent and paranoid.

Overall, this is going to be a trainwreck.
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It also occurs to me that real criminals could kill their victims, put a sign saying that their victims were guilty of some minor crime like stealing and then the authorities won't look too hard.
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Or they start bribing cops to take out competing drug dealers.
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mr friendly guy wrote:It also occurs to me that real criminals could kill their victims, put a sign saying that their victims were guilty of some minor crime like stealing and then the authorities won't look too hard.
The nature of some of the killings mentioned in the original post suggests that this has probably already taken place.
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mr friendly guy wrote:It also occurs to me that real criminals could kill their victims, put a sign saying that their victims were guilty of some minor crime like stealing and then the authorities won't look too hard.
The police already frame people for stealing drugs in order to lock them up and confiscate their money. Adding financial incentive to kill them increases the odds that they're going to be executing innocent people and framing them on their own.
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Marcos has a long shadow, and in the summer heat, some see the shade as attractive. The only fillipino ive known well and worked with was a straight marcos fan. "In those days," he'd boast, "China was scared off us. Not like now but then is son has entered politics so maybe in a few years we hope."

Calling back to the glory days of being the USA's favoured pet legitimetly works for a lot of people, that was the best time for them. This is more than just typical tough on crime stuff, its murderous nostalgia, blaming drugs instead of jews.
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Update. One month on and the results are not pretty.

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Horrific pictures: 300 dead in Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte’s national drug crackdown

WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES
RODRIGO “The Punisher” Duterte vowed to eliminate drug crime via state sanctioned murder and he’s fulfilling that promise with chilling efficiency.
The official death toll since the Philippines president’s call on authorities and citizens last month to kill drug users and dealers on sight is almost 300 but the true figure is certain to be higher.
The victims nobody reported missing, or cared enough about to identify, are unlikely to have made anyone’s list.
Now the horrific results of Duterte’s crackdown have been illustrated in an extraordinary series of photographs by Getty’s Dondi Tawatao.
According to police data, 293 suspected users and pushers were killed during police operations between July 1 and July 24. Human rights groups say this figure does not include countless people murdered by vigilantes in street executions.

There have been many reports of accused drug users and pushers being executed and left on streets with cardboard signs allegedly “admitting” their guilt.
Not that this worries Duterte — as far as he is concerned everything is going to plan.
“Double your efforts. Triple them if need be,” he said in a message to police.

“We will not stop until the last drug lord, the last financier and the last pusher have surrendered or been put behind bars ... or below ground if you wish.”

During his presidential campaign, the 71-year-old vowed to kill more than 100,000 alleged criminals and dump their bodies in Manila Bay within six months of taking office (he was inaugurated on June 30).
Since Duterte’s win, a wave of executions of alleged criminals, carried out both by vigilantes and the police, has swept the country.

In his national address last month, Mr Duterte told the crowd that the Philippines was drowning in drugs and urged police and civilians alike to take matters into their own hands by shooting suspects themselves.
He promised to pay huge bounties in exchange for every person killed who had connections to the drug trade. The higher the target’s rank, the bigger the reward.
The pay scale looks something like this: Three million pesos (around $A90,000) for every “drug lord”, two million pesos ($A60,000) for those in charge of distribution, one million pesos ($A30,000) for “syndicate members” and 50,000 pesos ($A15,000) for every “ordinary” drug peddler killed.
— with AAP

On Monday, United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Raad Zeid al-Hussein called on Duterte to end the killings.
Catholic bishops in the predominantly Catholic nation of 100 million have also denounced the crackdown.
“Can we correct evil by doing evil?” Manila Auxiliary Bishop Broderick Pabillo asked in a Mass that coincided with Mr Duterte’s speech.
Bishop Pabillo said there is no proof the victims were engaged in drug trafficking. “No one told us that, aside from the cardboards placed on top of them,” he said.

Phelim Kine, deputy director in Asia for the US-based Human Rights Watch, said “as long as President Duterte turns a blind eye to — or implicitly or explicitly encourages — summary killings, the fundamental right to life of all Filipinos is at risk from potentially random extrajudicial violence”.
An opinion poll taken late in June showed that 63 per cent of Filipinos believe that Duterte will make good on most, if not all, of his promises to stamp out criminality, corruption and illegal drugs.
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So are they even killing real drug dealers? I guess we'll see after a few years whether this purge would have the desired effect or not.
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Duterte, the only elected president who makes Erdogan look sane.
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There's a reason people call him "the Trump of the East". Although personally (and I can't believe I'm saying this), I wonder if that's being a little unfair to Trump.
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K. A. Pital wrote:So are they even killing real drug dealers?
The government created a financial incentive to identify someone as a drug dealer and kill them, and is openly contemptuous of the sort of oversight you need to have to stop corrupt or incompetent cops doing so without justification. I'm sure there is at least one police officer who is only killing real drug dealers, but there's no way to identify how many or which ones.
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The Romulan Republic wrote:There's a reason people call him "the Trump of the East". Although personally (and I can't believe I'm saying this), I wonder if that's being a little unfair to Trump.
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Spiegel, for once.
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