It certainly does logically flow. It is irresponsible to run off and allow everyone to think that you are abducted as a daughter of a high lord. It is foolish to believe that there would be no rpercussions for doing so and not to exert any effort to communicate her intentions once conflict began. It would conflict with the depiction of her as an honorable stark. Actions have consequences.Crazedwraith wrote:ArmorPierce wrote:It can be contended that it would cheapen the plot twist but it also can be contended that her willingly running off cheapens the war,the lives of her family, and thousands of others who died trying to save her. It would make her a horrible person... and the entire events that transpired could have been avoided.Crazedwraith wrote:
While I agree it's unlikely Tyrion is a Targaryen bastard. I think it more likely that if R+L=J is true that Lyanna wasn't kidnapped or raped. It would seriously cheapen the twist if Robert was basically right about Rheagar except that his rapings got Lyanna pregnant.
Literally everyone who knew Rheagar in the books other than Robert presents a very different picture of him. And the books have Lyanna be disillusioned with marrying Robert as well.
There's no indication she knew what would happen in the war afterwards. The deaths of her father and brother especially wouldn't have been predictable. (Again, unless the show differed greatly from the books here)
You keep saying that as if it logically follows. But it does not. There's no reason to hold Lyanna responsible for the rebellion, she probably didn't expect it to start. Even knowing Robert. And even if it ruins the character for you. It's not like ASoIaF doesn't have plenty of other characters doing things with massive consequences without thinking.
There's likely even more to the situation than we know. In flashback Rheagar indicates he thinks his first son is the Prince that was Promised. It seems likely that this actually Jon, his son by Lyanna. (or Dany) So this and other stories indicate a certain amount of 'because prophecy says so' that Lyanna may or may not have bought into.
Sorry for book stuff but aside from S1+2 of GoT its all I've got.
It's not that it would ruin the character for me, it's that it doesn't make sense based on what we do know of the character and the supposed evidence not supporting it. It does not match with what I've observed as the intent of the author for the nature of this character. Additionally, it doesn't really matter to the story whether it was rape. It matters less than Jon being a bastard if forced marriages is a thing.
Rheager believing in a prphecy does not support lyanna willingly running off with him. If anything it lends motivation for Rheager to abduct lyanna due to him genuinely believing he had good reason to do so.
