Why does using a electric heater make me feel fatigued/exhausted?

[Archinist]

So why does that happen? It is an electric heater, so it cannot possibly be making toxic fumes. I use it in a very small room, windows closed and door closed, and if it's left on for extended periods it seems to cause fatigue for some reason. If I turn it off, it usually goes away after about 10-20 minutes. Thanks.

[LadyTevar]

Go See A DOCTOR

[Ziggy Stardust]

Um, I don't think there's anything unusual or unhealthy about getting sleepy when you're warm. That's ... like the entire reason blankets are a thing.

[Iroscato]

This seems familiar...

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads ... ue.406575/

[Ziggy Stardust]

Didn't read the whole OP thoroughly before my last post. Mea culpa.

Based more on the spacebattles thread than this one (he inexplicably gives more details in the other one), it sounds to me like it's either completely a placebo effect or that he is extremely dehydrated and running a heater in a poorly ventilated room, giving him mild heat exhaustion. Either way, there's no fucking reason for him to be using that heater; he explicitly says other heaters don't cause this problem, so even if it is a placebo effect just stop using the god-damned heater.

EDIT:

Just saw this quote of his in the SB thread:

I already have a jacket, but that's useless if everything is cold

I mean, what? It's 10 degrees C outside, not god-damned Neptune. A coat is sufficient while you replace this heater with one that doesn't bother you. Don't be such a baby. I don't even turn the general heating on in my apartment for 10 degrees C, nevermind space heaters or the like.

[Archinist]

Didn't read the whole OP thoroughly before my last post. Mea culpa.

Based more on the spacebattles thread than this one (he inexplicably gives more details in the other one), it sounds to me like it's either completely a placebo effect or that he is extremely dehydrated and running a heater in a poorly ventilated room, giving him mild heat exhaustion. Either way, there's no fucking reason for him to be using that heater; he explicitly says other heaters don't cause this problem, so even if it is a placebo effect just stop using the god-damned heater.

EDIT:

Just saw this quote of his in the SB thread:

I already have a jacket, but that's useless if everything is cold

I mean, what? It's 10 degrees C outside, not god-damned Neptune. A coat is sufficient while you replace this heater with one that doesn't bother you. Don't be such a baby. I don't even turn the general heating on in my apartment for 10 degrees C, nevermind space heaters or the like.

Jackets only insulate you, not heat you. If you are already cold, the jacket will only make you colder, since it is locking all the cold air in and actually cooling it down since the jacket itself is cold.

There are no other heaters in the house, you see. That is the only one, the older heater that I used to use before has disappeared and cannot be found at all, so I would assume it not longer exists or is completely soaked with moisture with shed.

[Broomstick]

Jackets only insulate you, not heat you. If you are already cold, the jacket will only make you colder, since it is locking all the cold air in and actually cooling it down since the jacket itself is cold.

Presumably you are alive. Presumably you are also human and therefore a warm-blooded mammal that continually generates bodyheat. Put the jacket on and your bodyheat will warm up the jacket in a few minutes. As noted, jackets are insulated and will hold that heat in, thereby warming you. If you want to sleep, use a blanket.

I have a parrot that has figured out how this works and will crawl under a blanket of his own volition when he is cold. Why haven't you figured this out?

[Archinist]

Jackets only insulate you, not heat you. If you are already cold, the jacket will only make you colder, since it is locking all the cold air in and actually cooling it down since the jacket itself is cold.

Presumably you are alive. Presumably you are also human and therefore a warm-blooded mammal that continually generates bodyheat. Put the jacket on and your bodyheat will warm up the jacket in a few minutes. As noted, jackets are insulated and will hold that heat in, thereby warming you. If you want to sleep, use a blanket.

I have a parrot that has figured out how this works and will crawl under a blanket of his own volition when he is cold. Why haven't you figured this out?

No. The jacket has a higher cold count than the body provide, then you will slowly become colder and colder. The jacket probably has a slightly lower cold base than the natural warming, so that my boy will slowly, slowly increase in temperature, but kit will still be very uncomfortable foe the meantime.

[AniThyng]

Perhaps if you warm the jacket up a bit then.even by your logic that will work.

It's alarming that your approach to real life problems is pretty much the same as your approach to fantasy scenarios.

[Broomstick]

No. The jacket has a higher cold count than the body provide, then you will slowly become colder and colder. The jacket probably has a slightly lower cold base than the natural warming, so that my boy will slowly, slowly increase in temperature, but kit will still be very uncomfortable foe the meantime.

Excuse me? Do we live on the same planet?

Why the fuck do you think people in cold climates invented coats and long underwear?

Put the damn jacket on, then do some jumping jacks or run in place to generate a little extra heat. Holy fuck, this is stupid. Not to mention your post is barely coherent. WTF is wrong with you, that you perceive 10 C as being "cold"? (at that temp I'm still running around in t-shirts, maybe a flannel shirt if I'm sitting in one place for awhile with no heating required).

If you're that sensitive to cool temperatures wear more clothing. Seriously.

WTF is this bullshit - if you put on a jacket you get warmer. Again, assuming you're alive and a warm-blooded animal. haven't met too many people on the internet who don't fall into that category. Actually, none.

[Terralthra]

10 Celsius is 50 degrees Fahrenheit. Not t-shirt weather for most, I'd think, though certainly not beyond the "light jacket/sweater" range.

[Broomstick]

Well, yeah, I've probably got a bit higher cold tolerance than most, but like you said, it's light jacket territory. And the notion that putting on a jacket is going to make you colder is bullshit. Unless you store your clothes in your freezer.

[Adam Reynolds]

I am really wondering if he is just a troll, given some of his other posts. Though this did at least make me laugh, which was nice.

[Bernkastel]

Well, yeah, I've probably got a bit higher cold tolerance than most, but like you said, it's light jacket territory. And the notion that putting on a jacket is going to make you colder is bullshit. Unless you store your clothes in your freezer.

Wait, doesn't everyone do that? I love to put coats and jackets in the freezer. It's the best thing ever for cooling yourself down.

Seriously though, as everyone has stated, if a person is getting colder from wearing a jacket, there's something seriously wrong there.

[Bernkastel]

yeah, my post copied itself. Sorry.

[Bernkastel]

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[Raw Shark]

I have a parrot that has figured out how this works and will crawl under a blanket of his own volition when he is cold. Why haven't you figured this out?

It's official - Broomstick's parrot is smarter than Archinist.

10 Celsius is 50 degrees Fahrenheit. Not t-shirt weather for most, I'd think, though certainly not beyond the "light jacket/sweater" range.

Depends on the humidity. 50F probably has way more bite on an average day in San Francisco than here in Denver.

[muse]

10 Celsius is 50 degrees Fahrenheit. Not t-shirt weather for most, I'd think, though certainly not beyond the "light jacket/sweater" range.

[Archinist]

No. The jacket has a higher cold count than the body provide, then you will slowly become colder and colder. The jacket probably has a slightly lower cold base than the natural warming, so that my boy will slowly, slowly increase in temperature, but kit will still be very uncomfortable foe the meantime.

I can't do running around the house, there is not enough space, plus it would look ridiculous. I was typing on a mobile when I was typing that, so it would be less coherent of course.

Didn't infants used to die quite a lot when their parents heavily insulated them in jackets and blankets or something? There are a few infant guide books which recommend against putting lots of blankets on them because it might insulate the cold and kill them.

Plus wearing lots of clothing is uncomfortable since it's more weight and bulky on you, rather than just a shirt and a heater.

Perhaps if you warm the jacket up a bit then.even by your logic that will work.

It's alarming that your approach to real life problems is pretty much the same as your approach to fantasy scenarios.

No, the jacket will just catch fire or melt down.

A better idea would be to put the jacket on and the heater, and wait maybe one hour or so and turn the heater off. But then the jacket feels a bit odd and misplaced as it cools down and your shirt and body is still very warm.

[Ziggy Stardust]

I can't do running around the house, there is not enough space, plus it would look ridiculous.

Considering some of the things you have said in this thread, and others (both here and on SB), I very much doubt that you care about looking (or sounding) ridiculous. Jumping jacks do not require space. Pushups do not require space. Jogging in place does not require space.

Didn't infants used to die quite a lot when their parents heavily insulated them in jackets and blankets or something? There are a few infant guide books which recommend against putting lots of blankets on them because it might insulate the cold and kill them.

Wait, so now you are admitting that blankets "insulate the cold"? Before you were saying they made you colder somehow. At least keep your incoherent ramblings internally consistent.

Plus wearing lots of clothing is uncomfortable since it's more weight and bulky on you, rather than just a shirt and a heater.

First of all, a light jacket or a flannel isn't bulky or uncomfortable, and more then sufficient for 10 degrees C. Secondly, you started this thread because your heater is supposedly making you physically uncomfortable. Is wearing a long-sleeved shirt or a sweater really so much more uncomfortable than the fatigue, exhaustion, dizziness, and confusion this magical heater is making you feel?

No, the jacket will just catch fire or melt down.

If that were true, why do my clothes not catch on fire and melt down every time I use the dryer in my apartment? Do you not realize that's how dryers work, by heating clothes? Hell, it's a pretty common trick in northern climates to throw a dry shirt in the dryer for a couple of minutes to get it nice and toasty before putting it on to go out in the cold.

A better idea would be to put the jacket on and the heater, and wait maybe one hour or so and turn the heater off. But then the jacket feels a bit odd and misplaced as it cools down and your shirt and body is still very warm.

So why would this not cause the jacket to catch fire and melt down like you said in the previous response?

[General Zod]

Maybe the reason it happens is because the op is a pussy.

[Zixinus]

The heater is making the air drier. You should drink more moisture, maybe lower the intensity of the heater (although why are you using it in 10C?). Also, consider opening a window to allow fresh air in.

Dude, what are your jackets made out of, plastic? Since when do they melt?

Oh, and you fail at basic thermodynamics. Yes, putting on a jacket will sap some warmth from you as you warm it up to your body temperature. But once you done that, unless your jacket is made of out metal that radiates your bodyheat away, it will prevent you losing it in the first place.

[Lord Revan]

I think it's not so much thermodynamics as what he says makes sense under one false assumption, that assumption being that human body is unable produce its own heat. So what he fails at is not basic thermodynamics but basic biology (aka that warmblooded animals like humans produce their own heat)

[Batman]

I think he fails at both. And while I personally consider 10°C to be pretty damned cold (anything below 23 and I'm thinking about long sleeves indoors) it's not something clothing can't cope with. Nevermind jacket (a lot of which DO tend to be unsuitable for wearing indoors due to bulk, stiffness or a combination thereof), a sweater should do.

[Simon_Jester]

Since he thinks an insulated jacket will trap the cold near his body...

Maybe he should have a fan on in his room so he can blow the cold air away from his body and feel warmer.