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Col. Crackpot wrote:Clearly he hasn't been paying attention. If the CIA wanted to kill him, he would be already.
Eh, they failed to kill Castro loads of times.
8 substantiated and an estimation 638 attempts to be precise.

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The Church Committee stated that it substantiated eight attempts by the CIA to assassinate Fidel Castro in 1960-1965.[2]:71 Fabian Escalante, a retired chief of Cuba's counterintelligence, who has been tasked with protecting Fidel Castro, estimated the number of assassination schemes or actual attempts by the Central Intelligence Agency to be 638.[3] Some of them were a part of the covert CIA program dubbed Operation Mongoose aimed at toppling the Cuban government. The assassination attempts reportedly included cigars poisoned with botulinum toxin, a tubercle bacilli infected scuba-diving suit along with a booby-trapped conch placed on the sea bottom, an exploding cigar, a ballpoint pen containing a hypodermic syringe preloaded with the lethal concoction Blackleaf 40, and plain, mafia-style execution endeavors, among others.[4] There were plans to blow up Castro during his visit to Ernest Hemingway's museum in Cuba.[5]

Some of the plots were depicted in a documentary film entitled 638 Ways to Kill Castro (2006) aired on Channel 4 of the British public-service television.[6] One of these attempts was by his ex-lover Marita Lorenz whom he met in 1959. She allegedly agreed to aid the CIA and attempted to smuggle a jar of cold cream containing poison pills into his room. When Castro learned about her intentions, he reportedly gave her a gun and told her to kill him but her nerve failed.[7] Some plots aimed not at murder but at character assassination; they, for example, involved using thallium salts to destroy Fidel Castro's famous beard,[8]:30 or lacing Castro's radio studio with LSD to cause him disorientation during the broadcast and damage his public image.

Castro once said, in regards to the numerous attempts on his life he believed had been made, "If surviving assassination attempts were an Olympic event, I would win the gold medal
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On another note, Duterte tells Obama to go to hell. :D Even Russia and China don't do that. But then their leaders also don't say they would like to rape pretty Australian nuns, so maybe that doesn't mean anything.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-05/p ... ns/7903654
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It means that, like Trump, Duterte has no internal filter/censor.
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Thank you for the welcomes. I'm probably only going to involve myself in this topic because of its significance.
The Romulan Republic wrote:It means that, like Trump, Duterte has no internal filter/censor.
Then why has he not given any tirades against China? Aside from a couple of statements, one involving him jokingly saying that he'd ride a jetski and bring a Philippine flag to the disputed islands and another where he said a war would be bad, most of it has been very conciliatory in tone, there was even the time he blathered about leaving the UN and joining China, Russia, African nations and others in another union of nations with blackjack and hookers.

On one hand, sure it's because he knows he has to be delicate with China and he knows the Chinese and Russian and other related perspectives on multilateral world affairs also includes neglecting countries' domestic affairs even when human rights violations are occurring (whereas the US and the EU are peskier in this, out of both genuine concern and pretext for intervention). But if he's capable of this, then he ought to apply the same discretion in his affairs with the US...

Anyway, in other shit news...
I cannot dissociate from Marcoses —Duterte wrote:"Spotting Ilocos Norte Governor Imee Marcos at the Third Sulong Pilipinas Convention at Dusit Thani Hotel in Makati City, the President remembered that she was one of the few politicians who supported him during the campaign.

"My father was a Cabinet member of President Marcos during the first term of his presidency. My father was one of the two who stood by Marcos during the darkest hours. Everybody was shifting to Liberal at that time, kay Diosdado Macapagal," the President explained."

""That is why when he won, my father was one of the Cabinet members of Marcos. So iyan ang ano naming… That is why I cannot disassociate my… Besides, si [presidential daughter and Davao City Mayor] Inday [Sara Duterte-Carpio], iyong mga Carpio, taga-Paoay. *May anak na ako na Ilokano. Siyempre mahirap na, dugo iyan eh*. So may connect na--blood is blood," Duterte also noted."

*I have a child that's Ilocano. Certainly it's difficult (? my Tagalog is shit) it is blood.
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The officer claims he is part of one of 10 newly formed and highly secretive police special operations teams, each with 16 members.

He claims the teams are coordinated to execute a list of targets: suspected drug users, dealers and criminals.The killings mostly take place at night, he says, with the officers hooded and dressed in all black. They set their watches, giving themselves one minute or two to extract target individuals from their houses and kill on the spot – swift, precise, no witnesses.

He claims they then dump the bodies – in the next town or under a bridge – or they plaster masking tape around the head of the corpse and place a cardboard sign on the body that reads “drug lord” or “pusher”."
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The Romulan Republic wrote:It means that, like Trump, Duterte has no internal filter/censor.
Then why has he not given any tirades against China? Aside from a couple of statements, one involving him jokingly saying that he'd ride a jetski and bring a Philippine flag to the disputed islands and another where he said a war would be bad, most of it has been very conciliatory in tone, there was even the time he blathered about leaving the UN and joining China, Russia, African nations and others in another union of nations with blackjack and hookers.

On one hand, sure it's because he knows he has to be delicate with China and he knows the Chinese and Russian and other related perspectives on multilateral world affairs also includes neglecting countries' domestic affairs even when human rights violations are occurring (whereas the US and the EU are peskier in this, out of both genuine concern and pretext for intervention). But if he's capable of this, then he ought to apply the same discretion in his affairs with the US...

Anyway, in other shit news...
Hmm. Fair point, I suppose.

In that case, the more horrifying option- that he actually carefully chooses and considers his words, and simply concludes that pissing off a powerful ally and enjoying the idea of raping nuns are good, sensible things to say.
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I mentioned that before. I really do believe he knows this, or at least is not totally ignorant of the ramifications of his acts, and part of it is the theatrical element of politics, like pro-wrestling :P , he knows a certain portion of the domestic audience will lap this up, will rally to it, be galvanized and maybe if he's that damn good he and whoever's with him might consciously be poking and prodding malleable demographs towards a desired direction, steering the ship.

So these regular statements might be a calibrated test. If they see large segments of the population non-reactive or even supportive of his comments and defensive against critics... then they can gauge just how far their next actual moves (rather than words) can go before incurring backlash...

Of course, there's also a possibility that because he's been doing this for decades - tough guy talk, paternalistic macho father figure, lecherous uncle stuff - ever since his mayorship, ever since he'd have his own radio show and warn undesirables to get out of town or else they'll get... it... before those who don't leave somehow - someway - end up dead in ditches... the careful calibration AND the careless off the cuff pseudo-senile lunatic-speak might have converged. Like how people like Ultimate Warrior end up becoming the characters they play. The Phantom of the Opera of politics.

And maybe with these statements - if intelligently applied - he might force the US and China to engage in a bidding war for the Philippines' loyalty. Like, if the US gets so rattled, it might blink and offer like buy one take one, bargain bin discount F-22s or something. [/kidding, before someone tells me that no Lockheed Martin factories do not have the necessary gigajoules left to manufacture cheap Raptors assuming radar absorbent material was made out of a spherical mass of iron...] (and, obviously, unreliable leaders won't make the US offer cheaper and better gear, it will make them more hesitant to give away cool toys).
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We're reaching a very meta- level of politics, marketing, ideology, religion, memetics, etc. Because everything is interconnected, because of social media and processing power... the essence of these techniques and angles and perspectives are not necessarily new, but we've got so much more processing power, we (or THEY) can assess it in so much detail, move and calibrate it so fast, see and adjust to so many factors and influence things to such a degree... that it is really just weird now.

Like how in wrestling, keyfabe, shoots and works are blurry... like how organic grassroots movements and astroturf things are so hard to distinguish... is it viral? Is it some spliced memetic GMO idea-warfare? "Viral" is obsolete, maybe it really *is* time to throw around words like quantum this and quantum that.
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already posted in the other thread

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... 2&t=165544

I think we now need a thread just for the sheenanigans Duterte is generating.
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So Dooterreah is inviting Obama to the Philippines? They may try to kill him since he admitted to smoking the devil weed! :lol:
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Merged. Duterte's thread for now will be this one, the Hitler one.

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welcome back shroom, hope you are doing well.

Sorry your president is an asshole who, besides being a massive human rights abuser, can't even get the numbers of Hitler's victims right.
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Thanas wrote:Sorry your president is an asshole who, besides being a massive human rights abuser, can't even get the numbers of Hitler's victims right.
Maybe he's been smoking something. :finger: (him, not you, my favorite Jerry :P )
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Question is, does he have a plan for fixing the justice system or otherwise dealing with the fallout? One example is here, where drug addicts are scared enough that they're handing themselves in to avoid the death-squads. The net result is prisons that are bursting at the seams because they were never designed to house so many inmates.
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Well, reporting to the government and promising to go clean, even for those who don't end up in the mass incarcerations (as going there and admitting to be a drug user and promising not to do it again doesn't automatically result in imprisonment)... has not helped some of them who still got targeted and killed.

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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Well, reporting to the government and promising to go clean, even for those who don't end up in the mass incarcerations (as going there and admitting to be a drug user and promising not to do it again doesn't automatically result in imprisonment)... has not helped some of them who still got targeted and killed.

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Has anyone pointed out that Hitler failed to kill all the Jews, caused Jews to become more powerful then they ever had been since Rome, and thus Duterte is clearly planning for failure in his drug war, and thus a lying traitor who needs to be thrown into a trash can? I mean its not like logic and reason are going to stop it, turning his absurdity against him is the way to go.
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Special Report: In Duterte's war on drugs, local residents help draw up hit lists - Reuters wrote:There are two versions of how Manila pedicab driver Neptali Celestino died.

According to Philippines police, he shot at plainclothes officers during a sting operation on Sept. 12, and they returned fire. His family says police burst into their ramshackle home, cornered an unarmed Celestino and shot him in front of his teenage sons.

Whatever the case, Celestino's days seem to have been numbered. His name had appeared on a police "watch list" of drug suspects drawn up with the help of community leaders and other people who lived alongside him in Palatiw, a frenetic, traffic-choked area on the eastern side of the nation's capital.

The local officials who help cops draw up these lists are foot soldiers in a war on drugs that has led to the killing of more than 3,600 people since President Rodrigo Duterte took office on June 30.

Most of the 1,377 people shot by the police had appeared on the lists, according to national police chief Ronald Dela Rosa. It was unclear how many of the remaining 2,275 victims, who human rights activists suspect were mostly killed by vigilantes, were on the lists.

The campaign draws its momentum from President Duterte: Last Friday, he seemed to compare himself to Hitler and said he would be "happy to slaughter" three million drug addicts in the Philippines. But the campaign's efficiency depends on the lowliest officials in the country's barangays - its districts and villages.

"They are on the forefront of this fight," Dela Rosa told Reuters. "They can identify the drug users and pushers in their barangays. They know everyone."

MOTORBIKE-RIDING ASSASSINS

Interviews with local police, residents and barangay officials reveal the mechanics of an anti-drugs crusade that the popular Duterte has vowed to wage until next June in the face of global condemnation.

Barangay leaders, known as "captains", have been instrumental in drawing up the lists, say police.

Maricar Asilo Vivero is the captain of Pinagbuhatan, a Manila barangay with about 145,000 people, and says she is an enthusiastic supporter of Duterte's campaign.

"The war on drugs is good," she said. "It lowers crime. It identifies those who want to change."

The night before, said Vivero, motorbike-riding assassins killed two men who had been named as pushers on the barangay's watch list. Vivero said she sympathized with the victims' families but didn't feel responsible for the deaths.

People weren't included on the watch list with "the objective of killing them, or asking the police or authorities to kill them," she said. "Our objective is to guide them, to direct their lives to the better - not to kill."

Asked if people named on the watch list were more likely to get killed, Vivero replied: "No, I don't think so."

There were 323 suspected users and dealers on Pinagbuhatan's watch list, according to a computer print-out seen by Reuters. It had been swelled by people who had gone to the barangay office to admit to police they were users, a process known as "surrendering".

OFTEN A FAMILY AFFAIR

The origins of the barangay system predate the arrival of Spanish colonisers in the 16th century. In Manila, a barangay can consist of just two densely populated streets; in the countryside, it can sprawl for miles.

Each has a barangay captain and six kagawad, or councillors, who are elected in polls often dogged by allegations of corruption. And as with more senior posts in the Philippines, the barangay captaincy often passes between members of the same family.

The barangay office sits at the heart of the community and, on any given day, its hallways are clogged with people seeking so-called "clearances." These are certificates, signed by the captain, for people needing to establish residency, set up a business, apply for a job or enroll a child at a local school.

Barangay captains routinely attend the weddings, baptisms and funerals of constituents, and even victims of serious crimes will sometimes report to them first rather than the police.

"They trust us more and get an immediate response," said Eriberto Guevarra, who for 11 years was captain of Palatiw.

His wife Dinah now occupies the position, while Eriberto works at her side as a self-styled "peace and order czar".

"DRUG PERSONALITIES"

The Barangay Anti-Drug Action Committees (BADACs) play a key role in helping the police identify alleged drug dealers and users in each district.

Each BADAC's 6-10 members are chosen by the barangay captain, who also chairs the committee. They might be teachers, church workers, youth leaders or members of other civil society groups.

Each BADAC provides the names of what police term "drug personalities", meaning suspected users or dealers, most of them small-time. Police say they then "validate" these names in consultation with national anti-narcotics and intelligence officials. They also add names of their own.

First created by the government in 1998, BADACs were meant to convene every month, but for years many did little or existed only on paper. Duterte not only revived the BADACs, he made them the lynchpin of his war on drugs.

Duterte pioneered the nationwide campaign in the southern city of Davao, where he was mayor for 22 years.

There, barangay leaders and police compiled similar lists that were used by death squads to assassinate hundreds of alleged drug dealers, petty criminals and street children, said Human Rights Watch in a 2009 report. Duterte denied any involvement in the killings.

"A GRUDGE AND A GUN"

Officials say the watch lists are not arbitrary hit lists.

Metro Manila's list of 11,700 users and dealers has been "validated and revalidated by intelligence", said Kimberley Molitas, police spokeswoman for a region that has seen more than a quarter of the drug-war deaths.

Human rights monitors and some officials counter that the process is open to abuse.

Lists have included the names of people "who are not even drug users, never mind pushers," said Karen Gomez-Dumpit, a commissioner at the Philippines' Commission on Human Rights.

"It's an environment conducive to someone with a grudge and a gun to hunt you down," she said.

In one high-profile case, the bullet-riddled body of Mark Culata was found in Cavite, a province south of Manila, on Sept. 9. It bore a placard identifying him as a drug dealer.

Culata's mother Eva told local media that her 27-year-old son had nothing to do with drugs and had been heading overseas to start a job. Police told Reuters in a statement that investigators were considering the "illegal drug trade and love triangle" as a possible motive.

Four officers involved in the case have been moved to administrative positions pending an investigation by the National Bureau of Investigation, the Philippines equivalent of the FBI. Culata's death was raised as a possible extrajudicial killing in a Philippines Senate hearing on Oct. 3.

Police told Reuters that watch lists are confidential. But so-called "knock and plead" operations, in which police visit drug suspects at their homes and urge them to mend their ways, means inclusion on a list is often public knowledge.

Drug pushers and users are also urged to "surrender" to the police at barangay meetings that are, again, public. Their names are added to the watch list.

The process resembles a mass arrest. The so-called "surrenderers" are questioned by police, who ask for details of their dealers and fellow users. This information can be used to identify other drug suspects, police said. The names of surrenderers are later added to a national database so they can be watched even if they move to another barangay.

After the questioning, the users are fingerprinted and pose for a mugshot holding a whiteboard bearing their name and that day's date. Raising their right hands, they then swear to stay away from drugs and support "the government and the police in their noble campaign."

In the following weeks, said barangay captain Vivero, surrenderers are expected to do community service such as painting walls, unclogging sewers or picking up trash.

INTENDED TO CHANGE

Former barangay leader Eriberto Guevarra said he tried to avert the killing of pedicab driver Celestino. The dead man, Guevarra said, was just a small-time dealer and user, not the "notorious pusher" police dubbed him.

"He was endangered because he was on the watch list," he said.

Guevarra said he had warned Celestino to stop dealing and using drugs. Three days before his death Celestino had attended a three-hour "drug awareness" seminar run by police and barangay officials.

"It was his intention to change," said Guevarra.

John Patrick Celestino, 17, one of Celestino's four children, trembled as he recalled the night his father died.

The dogs began barking at about 9 p.m. There were armed men at the door who showed John Patrick a photo on a cellphone. "Is this your father?" they demanded.

When he said it was, according to John Patrick, the men rushed upstairs and kicked open the door to a small room where Celestino was hiding.

John Patrick, who had followed them to the room, said: "The men kept shouting, 'Where's the shabu?' Where's the shabu?'" referring to the local name for crystal methamphetamine, a highly addictive drug widely available in the Philippines.

He told them his father was unarmed and begged them not to shoot. But one gunman fired three rounds into the room, and the teenager heard his father gasp with pain.

The gunman then ordered John Patrick to flee. As he ran downstairs, he heard five more shots.

Police said they found a .22 revolver and three sachets of shabu on Celestino. His wife Zandey, 38, denies this was the case.

"My husband had already surrendered, so why did they kill him?" she asked. "Why didn't they give him one more chance?"

Sitting around his coffin, relatives told a Reuters reporter of a long-running feud with another family, who they blamed for telling the police that Celestino was a drug dealer. Reuters was unable to independently verify this claim.

"NEFARIOUS ACTIVITIES"

Celestino was on the watch list as a drug dealer, confirmed Chief Superintendent Romulo Sapitula, director of the Eastern Police District of Manila.

"The information came from the community," he said. "It was given by barangay officials and validated by the police."

The "best information" comes from the neighborhood itself, he added. "Most of the watch lists which came from that place are true and correct."

Celestino's surrender as a drug user didn't put him above suspicion, said Sapitula.

"There are some on the watch list who surrender but continue their nefarious activities," he said. "They pretend to embrace the program, but in reality ... they are still doing their old thing. And there are some who surrender as users when they're really pushers."

Sapitula confirmed the operation was carried out by seven or eight members of the anti-narcotics police. He rejected the family's claim that drugs were planted on Celestino. An internal investigation, he said, had concluded that the police opened fire in self-defense because Celestino had "opted to shoot it out".

Sapitula said family members shouldn't be afraid to file a formal complaint, but only "if they're innocent" and not involved in criminal activities.

The Celestinos told Reuters there was little point appealing to the same people who had killed their relative. Zandey said she feared not only for the safety of her children, but for other members of her extended family who, like Celestino, had "surrendered" to authorities.

Her older son, Cedric, 19, was so traumatized by the killing that he has stopped talking, she said.

"IT WILL BE BLOODY"

Some local leaders plead with the police to spare lives.

In the Manila slum of Tondo, barangay captain Erick Simbiling said two policemen recently told him they had "scheduled to kill" a local man who was a small-time but persistent drug dealer.

"I spoke to the policemen and said, 'Please give him a chance,'" Simbiling said.

He then visited the dealer and urged him to surrender to the authorities. The dealer did so, like hundreds of thousands of others nationwide, and then fled the barangay.

The barangay captains are under pressure from the president himself. Duterte has vowed to publish a list of a thousand elected officials suspected of drug ties. Prominent among them are captains who have connived with terrorists and drug lords, he told reporters on Sept. 18.

But not all barangays have toed the line. Police in central Luzon told Reuters that 31 of the region's 3,100 barangays had not supplied a watch list.

Romeo Caramat, police chief of Bulacan province in central Luzon, said these barangay officials were probably either allied to Duterte's political opponents or bankrolled by drug traffickers.

"Actually, one of the barangay captains who was uncooperative got killed," said Caramat. The man was shot in early August in San Jose Del Monte city by unidentified assassins on a motorbike, he said.

"One barangay chairman runs out of luck!" added Caramat, laughing. He described the man as "a well-known drug pusher and user" who had not included himself on his barangay's watch list.

The dead captain, Damaso Santiago, was a drug user, not a dealer, said his younger brother Arman Santiago. "Anyone you ask, they will say he does not peddle drugs. He was just a victim of drug use," said Arman.

Police chief Caramat described his province's 17,000 drug dealers and users as "a walking time bomb". For him, the death toll in his province is a measure of the campaign's success.

"It will be bloody," he said. "You have a problem with dengue. You think you can solve it without killing mosquitos?"

(Additional reporting by Clare Baldwin, Manuel Mogato and Neil Jerome Morales in Manila; Editing by Martin Howell)

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Flagg wrote:but it sounds like a large portion if not a majority of the Philippines' population support this barbarism. If that's not the case please fucking tell me.
Perhaps not support, in as much as they're used to it by now, three decades after Marcos, coupled with political instability and at least one or two attempted coups, one of which, IIRC, was led by the commander of the Philippines' Scout Rangers.
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U.P. Cinnabar wrote:
Flagg wrote:but it sounds like a large portion if not a majority of the Philippines' population support this barbarism. If that's not the case please fucking tell me.
Perhaps not support, in as much as they're used to it by now, three decades after Marcos, coupled with political instability and at least one or two attempted coups, one of which, IIRC, was led by the commander of the Philippines' Scout Rangers.
People can get accustomed to anything, regrettably. Where I used to live in Nigeria, Presidential coups were matter of course for a couple of decades after independence. It never particularly impacted the smallfolk very much apart from whose picture went up on the Post Office wall. I'd expect a certain degree of that applies to the Philippines.

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Things resembling US-style frontier justice, impatience for a bogged down justice system, corruption in all branches of the government and all that means that for a lot of the population, considerations on the rights of accused criminals are really... something that they barely consider on first glance.

Duterte got 40% of the vote in an election with 5 candidates - two other moderate candidates got 20-something-% of the votes. That means actually 60% of the populace or so opted to vote for someone else.

But still, his supporters have significant numbers and a lot of them are loud and as my ramblings previously stated, the Duterte phenomenon has elements both organic grassroots and astroturf.
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So someone living nearby my place just got assassinated in his own house.
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Wow.

Do you think you're relatively safe?
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:So someone living nearby my place just got assassinated in his own house.
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Hope you manage to stay safe and it wasn't a close friend or relative

Maybe this thread should be moved to a more private forum ?

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I have utterly no idea. I don't really know the details of what happened either, just that the guys who stand by in the neighborhood were recounting what just happened, I didn't even hear it myself, my housemate did whilst walking the dogs...

Oh Stas I'm totally removing some of the cool media we had when you dropped by. Just to be safe.
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And I think this thread should just stay where it is. For gripes to be shared.
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