An awkward meal on Susworld (RAR!)
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An awkward meal on Susworld (RAR!)
This is based off some speculations involving Zootopia before clarification. Please note that this is kinda weird...
Basically in this scenario you end up in an alternate version of earth where evolution went a little differently. As such the dominant species on the planet is basically this...
...or a less cartoony version there of. For a complicated list of reasons that would be of great interest to any biologist a strain of pigs became bipedal, their fore-legs became hands and they became sapient tool users. There are a few billion of these creatures living at a level of technology comparable to ours in general terms. In short: anthropomorphic pigs.
The ones that you come across are in fact decent in their way, recognize you as a sapient being with inherent rights and fundamental dignity and all that. Your picked up by some of their scientists who keep you in room in a facility that is quite comfortable, if confined. They're glad to teach you their language, work out means of communication, ask you questions about their earth and answer your questions about their world and so forth. They do tend to skirt around some subjects. They also tend to be uncomfortable when they put a bunch of food in front of you to see what you would eat if you look at the stew.
In any case, eventually they tell you something. Basically there are hominids on this planet. Several species of which across Eurasia and the Americas. They never got over the hump on this world and their intelligence did not noticeably advance. Even so, there are a lot of them. There is a fast breeding strain of said hominids with shovel like hands, a heavier jaw but otherwise looks hauntingly human which 12,000 years ago the sapient pigs in what on our earth would be the Yangtze River valley rounded some up, put them in pens, fed them their peelings, fish guts and other kitchen scraps, waited for them to breed and then slaughtered them for their meat and hides. As it stands, there are currently about a billion of them living in farms around the world. They had been stepping around this subject because they did not know how you would respond to this.
How would you respond to this?
Zor
Basically in this scenario you end up in an alternate version of earth where evolution went a little differently. As such the dominant species on the planet is basically this...
...or a less cartoony version there of. For a complicated list of reasons that would be of great interest to any biologist a strain of pigs became bipedal, their fore-legs became hands and they became sapient tool users. There are a few billion of these creatures living at a level of technology comparable to ours in general terms. In short: anthropomorphic pigs.
The ones that you come across are in fact decent in their way, recognize you as a sapient being with inherent rights and fundamental dignity and all that. Your picked up by some of their scientists who keep you in room in a facility that is quite comfortable, if confined. They're glad to teach you their language, work out means of communication, ask you questions about their earth and answer your questions about their world and so forth. They do tend to skirt around some subjects. They also tend to be uncomfortable when they put a bunch of food in front of you to see what you would eat if you look at the stew.
In any case, eventually they tell you something. Basically there are hominids on this planet. Several species of which across Eurasia and the Americas. They never got over the hump on this world and their intelligence did not noticeably advance. Even so, there are a lot of them. There is a fast breeding strain of said hominids with shovel like hands, a heavier jaw but otherwise looks hauntingly human which 12,000 years ago the sapient pigs in what on our earth would be the Yangtze River valley rounded some up, put them in pens, fed them their peelings, fish guts and other kitchen scraps, waited for them to breed and then slaughtered them for their meat and hides. As it stands, there are currently about a billion of them living in farms around the world. They had been stepping around this subject because they did not know how you would respond to this.
How would you respond to this?
Zor
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Re: An awkward meal on Susworld (RAR!)
If they're eating hominids it's not cannibalism, and since these hominids are not my particular species of hominid my consumption isn't technically cannibalism, but it's a little close for my comfort. I'd tell them that I'd prefer not to eat such close relatives and could I please have some fish, thank you very much.
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Re: An awkward meal on Susworld (RAR!)
If the hominids aren't intelligent, just their version of our worlds pigs right down to intelligence level, then I really don't a problem. Probably wouldn't eat them but I doubt I'd eat ape or monkey either. Too close to human for me to feel comfortable chowing down.
Like Broom I'd probably go for the fish.
If no way home to where I can eat bacon and ham without feelings weird can be found I would like to be let free from the facility assuming the people of the world don't mistake me for the people-pigs. I'd reasonably expect to spend some time in some scientific facility if for nothing else then to quarantine me to make sure I don't bring over swine flu or something that is going to wipe out their species leaving me stranded in a world with no bacon and nobody to talk to but farm animals that look like people but nothing long term.
Like Broom I'd probably go for the fish.
If no way home to where I can eat bacon and ham without feelings weird can be found I would like to be let free from the facility assuming the people of the world don't mistake me for the people-pigs. I'd reasonably expect to spend some time in some scientific facility if for nothing else then to quarantine me to make sure I don't bring over swine flu or something that is going to wipe out their species leaving me stranded in a world with no bacon and nobody to talk to but farm animals that look like people but nothing long term.
Re: An awkward meal on Susworld (RAR!)
No I wouldn't eat any hominid and would ask them if they'd eat their wild cousins. Then I'd ask for some bacon, pork chops and rump roast.
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Re: An awkward meal on Susworld (RAR!)
Fish and chicken for me, please. I'm not too attached to red meat to begin with. I don't eat rabbit if I can avoid it and the ones I had in my care were non-sapient. Calmly and carefully explain that their closest equivalent is also non-sentient. Then explain that "they" are in the same role as the hominids, with varying levels of care and have fairly abundant wild relatives.
Other than that, look forward to a life of constant awkwardness. Not to mention dating.
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Re: An awkward meal on Susworld (RAR!)
At first I'd probably avoid it. But, if it's as popular on their world as pig meat is here, their media will eventually break down any apprehension I have about trying it until my curiosity wins.
I'll just stay away from the farms.
I'll just stay away from the farms.
Re: An awkward meal on Susworld (RAR!)
Meh. We eat monkey and ape meat here, so why not?
Anyway, I hate fish.
Anyway, I hate fish.
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Re: An awkward meal on Susworld (RAR!)
I'd explain the situation, have a few awkward laughs about the irony of it all, and then--as others have said--mostly avoid hominid meat. I wouldn't think there's anything ethically wrong with either them or me eating it, but it would add an unsettling emotional element to my meals that I'd rather avoid. There are plenty of other meat sources, like fish, poultry, and all the other mammals, so I'm sure I could have a diet with plenty of variety.
I'd miss home more than I'd miss pork products.
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Re: An awkward meal on Susworld (RAR!)
Already being vegan makes this transition easier for me, because I wouldn't eat the meat regardless of its source anyway.
How they treat these hominids is not materially different from how we treat livestock IRL, so this really doesn't change much for me. I will just continue as I already do: not eating animal (hominid) products myself, but not being obnoxiously preachy about it to non-vegans. The only thing impacted is my social/sex life, because now I need to figure out how to have sex with anthropomorphic pigs.
How they treat these hominids is not materially different from how we treat livestock IRL, so this really doesn't change much for me. I will just continue as I already do: not eating animal (hominid) products myself, but not being obnoxiously preachy about it to non-vegans. The only thing impacted is my social/sex life, because now I need to figure out how to have sex with anthropomorphic pigs.
Re: An awkward meal on Susworld (RAR!)
Miss Piggy would knee you in the sack if she heard you say that. Best not to mess with her.
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Re: An awkward meal on Susworld (RAR!)
Miss Piggy is an anuraphile - what would she care what a talking ape thinks?
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. Leonard Nimoy.
Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
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Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.
If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy
Sam Vimes Theory of Economic Injustice