UKIP Leadership Race thread

[SpottedKitty]

We can't always rely on having a godsend like Maggie Thatcher being available to repair the damage.

<snrk>



Hold on... erm...



Sorry, wrong direction.

[Atia]

We can't always rely on having a godsend like Maggie Thatcher being available to repair the damage.

There are many words to describe her, this is not one of them.

God sends plagues too.

[Iroscato]

We can't always rely on having a godsend like Maggie Thatcher being available to repair the damage.

There are many words to describe her, this is not one of them.

God sends plagues too.

[madd0ct0r]

So the far Right in Britain has gotten to the point of murderous assaults on their own politicians?

No - it's the far left that does that. Or at the very least they're the only ones issuing death threats and bricks through windows.

You dishonest bilk. How long ago was it that mp Jo Cox was murdered?

[Captain Seafort]

You dishonest bilk. How long ago was it that mp Jo Cox was murdered?

By some random crackpot of uncertain political leanings beyond the fact that there have been suggestions that it may have been linked to the EU referendum, in which case you can toss a coin over whether he was a right- or left-wing crackpot.

In any event, the term "their own politicians" can hardly be used to describe a right-wing crank attacking a Labour MP.

[K. A. Pital]

His political leanings were quite certain. You're grasping at straws now. Expected, but still shameful.

[Captain Seafort]

His political leanings are all pure speculation.

Fixed it for you.

[jwl]

You dishonest bilk. How long ago was it that mp Jo Cox was murdered?

By some random crackpot of uncertain political leanings beyond the fact that there have been suggestions that it may have been linked to the EU referendum, in which case you can toss a coin over whether he was a right- or left-wing crackpot.

In any event, the term "their own politicians" can hardly be used to describe a right-wing crank attacking a Labour MP.

His political leanings are known, he's a neo-nazi:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... oup-claims
Although obviously this has no connection with Ukip.

[Iroscato]

So the far Right in Britain has gotten to the point of murderous assaults on their own politicians?

No - it's the far left that does that. Or at the very least they're the only ones issuing death threats and bricks through windows.

Also, I'm going to need a source backing that statement up. Failing that, a nice juicy concession will do just fine. We all say things in the heat of the moment, after all.

[K. A. Pital]

His political leanings were quite certain.

Fixed it for you.

I will stand above putting words in your mouth, but will keep mine the same - thanks. And good that other members already wiped the floor with you just below this silly attempt of yours at twisting the truth

Witnesses have confirmed that he shouted “Britain first” or “Put Britain first” as he attacked Cox, who was 41 and had two children. Britain First is the name of a far-right political party.

Whoops.

[jwl]

Well, I think the more relevant part was the bit below that which talks about Ich Kämpfe and the US National Alliance. As far as I'm aware there's no hard evidence that he's actually linked with Britain First the political party, from what it sounds like he would probably regard them as a bit soft.

[Zaune]

Does it matter? He was still part of the pro-Leave camp, for all that they've tried to disown him. I have yet to hear of a pro-Remainer committing a politically motivated crime worse than vandalism.

For better or worse.

[jwl]

Does it matter? He was still part of the pro-Leave camp, for all that they've tried to disown him. I have yet to hear of a pro-Remainer committing a politically motivated crime worse than vandalism.

For better or worse.

Of course he was, but I don't really see what this has do do with anything at all really.

[Zaune]

Me neither, but I'm not the one who brought it up.

[Captain Seafort]

Also, I'm going to need a source backing that statement up. Failing that, a nice juicy concession will do just fine. We all say things in the heat of the moment, after all.

Voila

[Alyrium Denryle]

So the far Right in Britain has gotten to the point of murderous assaults on their own politicians?

No - it's the far left that does that. Or at the very least they're the only ones issuing death threats and bricks through windows.

Hey, here's an idea. Dont derail the thread while ignoring people's posted sources to do so.

[Iroscato]

Also, I'm going to need a source backing that statement up. Failing that, a nice juicy concession will do just fine. We all say things in the heat of the moment, after all.

Voila

Weak. Your claim was:

No - it's the far left that does that. Or at the very least they're the only ones issuing death threats and bricks through windows.

Bolding mine.
Quite an outlandish claim, I'm sure you'll agree. So once again, I'm going to need to see a source backing up the statement that the far-left are the only ones who issue death threats and throw bricks through windows, or a concession. I'm a patient man, I'll wait.

[SCRawl]

I'm not feeling very patient just now.

Captain Seafort, you will provide evidence in favour of your assertion (note that the article you quoted does not meet that bar), concede that your assertion was untrue, or you will resign from this community. You will make one of these choices by midnight tonight EDT. A third way would be to ignore me and see what the administrators would do instead.

You've had several days to summon up a credible rebuttal or back down. You have a little over 15 hours left.

[Captain Seafort]

Captain Seafort, you will provide evidence in favour of your assertion (note that the article you quoted does not meet that bar), concede that your assertion was untrue, or you will resign from this community. You will make one of these choices by midnight tonight EDT. A third way would be to ignore me and see what the administrators would do instead.

Very well. I concede that my statement that the far left are "the only ones issuing death threats and bricks through windows" is not supported by the evidence provided, and the claim is therefore withdrawn.

[madd0ct0r]

Well, you were stupid to double down.

Did anyone see the bit mentioned on last week's Have I Got News For You that the lady who was leader for a matterr of days added (under duress) to her signing the leadership paper. Why would you need to force someone to be party leader?

[Crazedwraith]

Woolfe's now left the party altogether. I wonder if this incident will drive him over to the tories after all.

[jwl]

Woolfe's now left the party altogether. I wonder if this incident will drive him over to the tories after all.

Well, I was talking about him as a voter. Even if he doesn't join a new party he might have already decided to vote another party the next time an election comes round.

[Crazedwraith]

Woolfe's now left the party altogether. I wonder if this incident will drive him over to the tories after all.

Well, I was talking about him as a voter. Even if he doesn't join a new party he might have already decided to vote another party the next time an election comes round.

I was just talking in the context of him saying he'd considered defecting in a interview, which started the kerfuffle to begin with. Not our previous conversation about voters.

Though you're right, I'm sure he won't be voting UKIP now.