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No. It's not an intelligent AI nor is it "living" by even the most sci-fi of definitions. Even then, just like playing out "rape fantasies" between consenting partners isn't illegal, I wouldn't think creating a simple program to say "no" based certain criteria would be illegal either. Creepy maybe.aerius wrote:Another friend also noted that the latest Real Doll models have AI speech recognition and will actually talk back to you. So obviously the next questions were "how sad would it be if your Real Doll says no?" and also "is it rape if you fuck your Real Doll after it says no?" Discuss, and feel free to ask questions you wouldn't ask in polite company.
Maybe they're Russian design?TheFeniX wrote:..................................... .... fuck it. Some of the higher end dolls have detachable genitals. For the mouth, I have no idea. Some have sleaves that are easy to remove. Use a condom. Also, the stuff isn't that hard to clean up as long as there's nothing around to absorb it. So, you're already fucking a toy, man up and use some water wipes to clean that shit out.
They could just either disconnect or remove the toys from their bodies.TheFeniX wrote:
Now here's a fucked up scenario about VR. If you crammed a sexdoll with a camera, speaker, mic, and other sensors and your (human) partner put on a VR helmet and you started going at it and SHE said "stop" and you didn't stop. What's the deal? Imagine there's some kind of toy on her end now? What if 100 other really weird shit that could crop up with Internet connections and vibrating things?
More German considering Krieger actually built the fucking thing (PHRASING, BOOM!*).General Zod wrote:Maybe they're Russian design?
That still leaves X amount of time of "rape" happening once consent is withdrawn. Just because you have an easy escape doesn't imply consent.Archinist wrote:They could just either disconnect or remove the toys from their bodies.
At one point I think Krieger remarked that he kills her every night.TheFeniX wrote:More German considering Krieger actually built the fucking thing (PHRASING, BOOM!*).General Zod wrote:Maybe they're Russian design?
Though Mitsuko is a good example (of the AI issue) because she seems self-aware beyond that of a simple response based AI. She loves Kreiger, but did he program her to love him? Is it actually a form of slavery? Would self-aware sex-dolls be the same? What if he had crammed her AI into Katya's reanimated Cyborg body?
I believe that falls under accessory to crime. But I am not a lawyer. If we lived in a more Orwellian you'd be charged with thought crimes and sent away for re-education since you've shown intent and willingness to carry out your intent on the victim. Once again, I am not a lawyer.TheFeniX wrote:Now here's a fucked up scenario about VR. If you crammed a sexdoll with a camera, speaker, mic, and other sensors and your (human) partner put on a VR helmet and you started going at it and SHE said "stop" and you didn't stop. What's the deal? Imagine there's some kind of toy on her end now? What if 100 other really weird shit that could crop up with Internet connections and vibrating things?
Since this is a board based on science and numbers and shit, I looked up the price of a Real Doll and the cost of hookers in my city. A Real Doll would cost me around $8000 whereas a hooker is about $300 an hour. This puts the break even point at a bit under 27 hours of use on the Real Doll, so all else being equal, if you plan on getting more 27 or more appointments with hookers in your lifetime, you'll be ahead if you get a Real Doll. Personally, I'd go with Fleshlights and hookers if I were stuck in that hypothetical scenario.General Zod wrote:For the price of a real-doll you're probably better off just getting a self-cleaning hooker.
On the other hand, it's a lot easier for most people to save up $300 than it is $8000.aerius wrote:Since this is a board based on science and numbers and shit, I looked up the price of a Real Doll and the cost of hookers in my city. A Real Doll would cost me around $8000 whereas a hooker is about $300 an hour. This puts the break even point at a bit under 27 hours of use on the Real Doll, so all else being equal, if you plan on getting more 27 or more appointments with hookers in your lifetime, you'll be ahead if you get a Real Doll. Personally, I'd go with Fleshlights and hookers if I were stuck in that hypothetical scenario.General Zod wrote:For the price of a real-doll you're probably better off just getting a self-cleaning hooker.
So what would happen if they set everything up so that they could request their partner to "stop", but their partner couldn't hear them and they recorded it?muse wrote:I believe that falls under accessory to crime. But I am not a lawyer. If we lived in a more Orwellian you'd be charged with thought crimes and sent away for re-education since you've shown intent and willingness to carry out your intent on the victim. Once again, I am not a lawyer.TheFeniX wrote:Now here's a fucked up scenario about VR. If you crammed a sexdoll with a camera, speaker, mic, and other sensors and your (human) partner put on a VR helmet and you started going at it and SHE said "stop" and you didn't stop. What's the deal? Imagine there's some kind of toy on her end now? What if 100 other really weird shit that could crop up with Internet connections and vibrating things?
New business idea: Sex doll rentals. For half the price of a hooker, you can rent a Real Doll to satisfy your needs. Just don't damage it. I wonder how much of a market there is for sex doll rentals, and how much people will pay for this service. Cleaning the damn things is going to be a bitch though, I'll need to hire someone to do that part for me.General Zod wrote:On the other hand, it's a lot easier for most people to save up $300 than it is $8000.
No thanks. The clap is the clap, whether you get it from an escort or a hunk of silicone. And yes, it can happen. There's an Ig Nobel prize for that.aerius wrote:New business idea: Sex doll rentals. For half the price of a hooker, you can rent a Real Doll to satisfy your needs. Just don't damage it. I wonder how much of a market there is for sex doll rentals, and how much people will pay for this service. Cleaning the damn things is going to be a bitch though, I'll need to hire someone to do that part for me.General Zod wrote:On the other hand, it's a lot easier for most people to save up $300 than it is $8000.
That's why a professional cleaning service/procedure is needed. Dunking the sex doll in isopropyl alcohol should do the trick, or maybe I'll go high tech and use the the power of radiation.Elheru Aran wrote:No thanks. The clap is the clap, whether you get it from an escort or a hunk of silicone. And yes, it can happen. There's an Ig Nobel prize for that.
Nah, that wasn't me. At least there's no evidence it was me. I don't remember it and a search doesn't pull up anything so I'm pretty sure it wasn't me. Also, everyone knows that you shouldn't bury bodies in your basement, it leaves voids in the concrete and that can really screw up the foundation. Here in Canada, we leave the bodies in the forests to feed the bears.Col. Crackpot wrote:Someone refresh my memory as it has been at least a dozen years... was it Aerius who pondered the question as to who squeegeed up the spunk off the holodeck floor?
Isn't pretty much everything related to sex toys illegal in Texas? I thought they had a dildo ban in that state for fuck's sake.TheFeniX wrote:I don't know why I "think" I know this, but I'm pretty sure at least in the sad state of Texas: resale of sex toys is illegal due to (probably Religious) "health concerns." Though I can't say I disagree with that.
Alabammy is the one with the dildo ban. You can't buy alcohol until past noon on a Sunday in Texas, though.aerius wrote:Nah, that wasn't me. At least there's no evidence it was me. I don't remember it and a search doesn't pull up anything so I'm pretty sure it wasn't me. Also, everyone knows that you shouldn't bury bodies in your basement, it leaves voids in the concrete and that can really screw up the foundation. Here in Canada, we leave the bodies in the forests to feed the bears.Col. Crackpot wrote:Someone refresh my memory as it has been at least a dozen years... was it Aerius who pondered the question as to who squeegeed up the spunk off the holodeck floor?
Isn't pretty much everything related to sex toys illegal in Texas? I thought they had a dildo ban in that state for fuck's sake.TheFeniX wrote:I don't know why I "think" I know this, but I'm pretty sure at least in the sad state of Texas: resale of sex toys is illegal due to (probably Religious) "health concerns." Though I can't say I disagree with that.
A: I'm sure there's an automated system for thatCol. Crackpot wrote:Someone refresh my memory as it has been at least a dozen years... was it Aerius who pondered the question as to who squeegeed up the spunk off the holodeck floor?
I had a rough Friday/Saturday and I didn't have the chance to go to the liquor store until it was closed.phred wrote:How much alcohol do you drink that you can't just stock up on Saturday?
That got overturned a while ago. I still don't know why I think resale of used sex toys is illegal though.aerius wrote:Isn't pretty much everything related to sex toys illegal in Texas? I thought they had a dildo ban in that state for fuck's sake.
Pfft, you beer and wine guys and your complaints ring hollow. Imagine a three-day weekend and not realizing until Sunday morning you're out of Whiskey. So, you either buy up some swill like Mike's Hard Lemonade or you just don't drink. Either way, it's painful.General Zod wrote:Alabammy is the one with the dildo ban. You can't buy alcohol until past noon on a Sunday in Texas, though.
