Oh NOOO Saddam forcing children into combat

[NecronLord]

First of all, "imposing a fundamentalism" would be going against any semblance of common sense. (not that common sense is abundant these days)

Concession Accepted

Fundamental Islamicists are howling for American dead wherever and however they can be killed.

Incorrect. Oman, Saudi and various other governments co-operate with the US despite being Theocratic Monarchies

Why in the hell would the U.S. want to install a rabid theocracy?

Ease of control. Heaven forbid the leader you have spent years bribing might be replaced. I never said rabid, that is a deliberate distrotion. They will impose something like Oman. Quiet and does as it's told.

There will be attempts to place as secular and non-controversial a government as possible in place once the smoke starts to clear.

Nice crystal ball you have there. Non-controversial middle eastern govts are so common aren't they? As for secular, need I remind you your current leaders don't believe in secularism? This isn't FDR this is GWB

Please don't accuse me of not being able to see past "We're the good guys", history's my hobby,

Ditto. And an appeal to authority to boot!

and this is hardly the first time the U.S. has been the the one to initiate hostilities.

What the fuck! When did I say any such thing? I never said this was the first time the US has attacked a soverign nation. The point is they are likely to install the govt that will keep the area quiet and do as they say. That is a fact.

[Frank Hipper]

Incorrect. Oman, Saudi and various other governments co-operate with the US despite being Theocratic

And their citizens despise us, and openly cheer dead Americans. Have you ever seen an interview with Saudi HS students? Sept. 11 was a great thing that cheered many a Saudi's heart.

Ease of control. Heaven forbid the leader you have spent years bribing might be replaced. I never said rabid, that is a deliberate distrotion. They will impose something like Oman. Quiet and does as it's told.

Distortion? You were the one who said "impose a fundamentalism". And now you"re making my argument for me.

Ditto. And an appeal to authority to boot!

Wow! I'm an authority? Thanks.

What the fuck! When did I say any such thing? I never said this was the first time the US has attacked a soverign nation. The point is they are likely to install the govt that will keep the area quiet and do as they say. That is a fact.

You accused me of not being able to see past the U.S. being the nice guys, and I countered that with a historical example that clearly shows that I do not think that. And again, you make my argument for me with the "keeping the area quiet" bit. How "imposing a fundamentalism" is supposed to achieve that is beyond me.

[fgalkin]

Only link in Swedish

Aftonbladet

Apparently USA is accusing sadamn of serius war crimes, Keith Garvin an ABC News reporter in Iraq have vitnessed Iraqi troops using Women & Children as shield and giving children arms.

Fuck this ain't good

He's getting despertate. Unfortunately, the worst is still to come.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

[Vympel]

I would hardly call this propaganda as more refined than the bullshit that is fed to populace's about the enemy since well- always. 90 years from now people will read this bullshit and shake their heads asking themselves "how could anyone believe such crap?"- simultaneously oblivious that the govt is still sticking it's propaganda cock up their ass, excuse my baby-eating German.

[generator_g1]

I saw on TV those Iraqi civilians firing on the Tigris River, thinking that there were downed US pilots there when the camera panned over the crowd, I saw some kids brandishing handguns, probably given to them by the grown-ups.

[NecronLord]

baby-eating German.

Don't forget to render down the corpses of your enemies to make soap.