TF.net-ers "Know" Seismic Charges are Sonic Weapon

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-03-30 05:30pm

Go to the Senate Board--they do.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-03-30 07:03pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
phongn wrote:The usual explanation for sounds is that onboard sensors detect weapons fire and project a sound inside the ship to enhance situational awareness.
This is canon. From one of the radio dramas, IIRC.

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Pg. 286: HAN: Your sensors'll give you an audio simulation for a rough idea of where those fighters are when they're not on your screen. It'll sound like they're right there in the turret with you.
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-Star Wars IV: A New Hope Novellization

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-03-30 09:33pm

I object to the continued pollution of stardestroyer.net with links to such stupidity

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-03-30 09:46pm

But Great Leader, the Trektard Front and Fundie Front are in our favor.

Now we most challenge the Warsie Dipshit Front.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-03-31 12:20am

You're delving into the minds of morons who literally challenge are they of any intelligence or not.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2003-03-31 04:14am

Sounds in space in sci fi should be as easy to dismiss as music in space in sci fi.

Or are to supposed to believe that John Williams music plays whenever a battle occurs (played over the com channels of all ships by some omnipotent lover of JW tunes). ; )

I think the "controversy" about seismic charges is both in its use of rings and the "sound delay" and unique sound. You don't have to agree with it, but its definately unique as weapons in SW go.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-03-31 12:01pm

Kurgan, the word you're looking for is "non-diegetic sound".

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2003-03-31 02:57pm

Never heard of that word before. What does it mean?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-03-31 03:04pm

Diegetic Sound:

Sound whose source is visible on the screen or whose source is implied to be present by the action of the film:

voices of characters
sounds made by objects in the story
music represented as coming from instruments in the story space ( = source music)

Diegetic sound is any sound presented as originated from source within the film's world

Digetic sound can be either on screen or off screen depending on whatever its source is within the frame or outside the frame.

Another term for diegetic sound is actual sound

Non-Diegetic Sound:

Sound whose source is neither visible on the screen nor has been implied to be present in the action:

narrator's commentary
sound effects which is added for the dramatic effect
mood music
Non-diegetic sound is represented as coming from the a source outside story space.

The distinction between diegetic or non-diegetic sound depends on our understanding of the conventions of film viewing and listening. We know of that certain sounds are represented as coming from the story world, while others are represented as coming from outside the space of the story events. A play with diegetic and non-diegetic conventions can be used to create ambiguity (horror), or to surprise the audience (comedy).

Another term for non-diegetic sound is commentary sound.

Sound in space in film is non-diegetic sound.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2003-03-31 03:15pm

"sounds" good. ; )