Bombs Mailed To Obama, Clinton, and CNN Building

[FireNexus]

Remember kids: Liberals Are The Angry Mob

Secret Service intercepts ‘potential explosive devices’ sent to Obama, Clinton

Mark Berman
Several suspicious devices sent to politicians, CNN


Authorities are investigating potential explosive devices addressed to former president Obama, former first lady Hillary Clinton, among other political figures. (Joyce Koh /The Washington Post)

October 24 at 11:21 AM
The Secret Service said Wednesday that it had intercepted packages containing “potential explosive devices” addressed to former secretary of state Hillary Clinton in New York and former president Barack Obama in Washington, while authorities also rushed to investigate a suspicious package sent to CNN’s headquarters.

The packages were discovered not long after an explosive device was found in a mailbox at the Bedford, N.Y., home of George Soros, the liberal philanthropist who is a frequent target of criticism from far-right groups. The devices sent to Clinton and Obama were found during screening and did not make it to them, officials said.

“The packages were immediately identified during routine mail screening procedures as potential explosive devices and were appropriately handled as such,” the Secret Service said in a statement Wednesday. “The protectees did not receive the packages nor were they at risk of receiving them.”

The Secret Service said the package addressed to the Chappaqua, N.Y., home of Clinton and former president Bill Clinton was recovered late Tuesday. The package sent to Obama’s Washington home was intercepted early Wednesday, authorities said.

Both packages were intercepted by Secret Service personnel working at off-site facilities near their homes in New York and in Washington, according to a person familiar with their work. All mail and packages addressed to former presidents and their immediate family are pre-sorted and screened by Secret Service personnel.

An Obama representative referred questions to the Secret Service. Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill said the package was “not in proximity to their residence" and also deferred other questions to the agency.

The devices sent to Clinton and Obama are suspected to be the work of the same person who sent a similar device to Soros earlier this week, according to two law enforcement officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. Soros, an 88-year-old holocaust survivor, has funneled much of his fortune into liberal projects around the world, making him a frequent target of rhetoric on the right.

Based on the timing and the material, law enforcement officials suspect the same person is behind all three devices, and officials are scrambling to determine if any other such devices were sent to anyone.

The devices sent to Clinton, Obama and Soros were all pipe bombs placed inside plain manila brown envelopes with the addresses typed on stickers, according to a law enforcement official. The return address address on the packages is a known public official, but authorities do not believe that person is involved, the law enforcement official said.

Authorities are scouring the mailboxes of public officials throughout government and urge anyone who receives a suspicious package to contact law enforcement, the official said.

CNN’s headquarters at the Time Warner Center in New York was also evacuated Wednesday morning due to a suspicious package found there. The network broadcast footage of its staffers outside on the Manhattan streets below, where anchor Jim Sciutto could be seen on a cellphone reporting that he was told a suspicious package was mailed to the CNN building.

Jeff Zucker, president of CNN, wrote in a letter to employees that the center was “evacuated out of an abundance of caution” after the package was found in the mailroom. He also told employees that CNN had checked on its other bureaus but found no other devices.

The New York Police Department said its officers were “investigating a suspicious package in Columbus Circle,” which is where the Time Warner Center is located. The NYPD was investigating the suspicious package at the network and working with federal partners on the investigations into what was sent to Obama, Clinton, Soros and CNN, according to a police official. As part of that, the NYPD was increasing patrols at areas linked to those three people and inspecting packages sent to locations tied to them. The police were also increasing patrols at high-profile areas, including media locations, in New York City.

As investigators continued to explore the devices and their origins, White House officials and others in Washington decried the string of packages.

“We condemn the attempted violent attacks recently made against President Obama, President Clinton, Secretary Clinton, and other public figures," Sarah Sanders, the White House press secretary, said in a statement Wednesday morning. "These terrorizing acts are despicable, and anyone responsible will be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. The United States Secret Service and other law enforcement agencies are investigating and will take all appropriate actions to protect anyone threatened by these cowards.”

Chelsea Clinton posted on Twitter: “Every day, I am grateful to the women and men of the United States Secret Service. Thank you.”

Suspicious letters and packages have been sent to numerous public figures, including President Trump’s children. Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, tweeted: “As someone whose family has directly been the victim of these mail threats I condemn whoever did this regardless of party or ideology. This crap has to stop and I hope they end up in jail for a long time.”

A letter was sent to Trump Jr.'s home earlier this year that resulted in his wife going to the hospital. A man later pleaded guilty to sending threatening letters with white powder to Trump’s sons and other public figures.

Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker contributed to this story, which will be updated.

[U.P. Cinnabar]

Mailed by some very fine people, no doubt.

[aerius]

Something doesn't add up. As a former Customs/Postal worker, something looked fishy to me. This article has a photo of one of the bombs.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... urce=twCNN

I'll link the photo here.


There are no cancellation marks on the stamps. Every piece of mail that goes through the mail system gets the stamps cancelled. This parcel never went through the mail system. It's claimed that it was delivered by a courier, but that raises more questions. Why are there stamps if it's mailed by a courier? If I mail parcels with FedEx or UPS they don't put stamps on them. Someone needs to find the courier who delivered that parcel and question the shit out of him. You don't walk around delivering parcels with non-cancelled stamps on them, it's suspicious as hell.

[Broomstick]

I'd say having a bomb in a package is suspicious as hell...

Maybe some perpetrator(s) hand delivered the packages but put stamps on them to defer suspicion/make it look like it went through the mail?

The Unabomber used to do stuff like hand-deliver packages, put fake return addresses on them, and stuff like that.

[FireNexus]

The bombs to the former Presidents were caught in transit. The Schulz bomb was Lisa dressed and returned t sender. All but the Soros bomb were definitely mailed, last I saw.

[Zaune]

Could also be that they were handed in at the post office because they wouldn't fit through the letterbox, but were flagged as suspicious before the staff got as far as stamping the cancellation marks on them. If you were a postal worker and a sketchy-looking guy handed you a large, heavy package addressed to George Soros or Barack Obama, wouldn't you set it down a safe distance from anything important and call 911 the minute he was out of sight?

[FireNexus]

The bombs to the former Presidents were caught in transit. The Schulz bomb was Lisa dressed and returned t sender. All but the Soros bomb were definitely mailed, last I saw.

Whoops, autocorrect fails. Also the Brennan package was delivered by courier and the Soros package was hand-delivered. The rest were mail. Safe to say our mad bomber is in the vicinity of New York City.

[The Romulan Republic]

Given the target list, its also pretty safe to say they're a Trumper. The targets are pretty much all drawn from a list of people Trump has marked as enemies of himself/his base/his version of America.

And given that Trump has made no secret of publicly advocating violence against his opponents and defending those who commit it (while labeling Democrats the violent mob that's too dangerous to be allowed to govern), I will hold Trump personally responsible for these attacks, and for any similar incidents that occur as long as he occupies the White House.

[Sea Skimmer]

There are no cancellation marks on the stamps. Every piece of mail that goes through the mail system gets the stamps cancelled. This parcel never went through the mail system.

This is false. Parcels have to be manually cancelled by a human rather then automatically by a machine and the USPS is so understaffed that it's routine for some stamps not to get cancelled for parcels left in drop boxes. Someone who manages a post office branch is telling me this over Discord.

It's claimed that it was delivered by a courier, but that raises more questions.

Who claimed this? The guberment is sure saying they were mailed. Why would someone put stamps on a courier delivered package?

[J]

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[aerius]

This is false. Parcels have to be manually cancelled by a human rather then automatically by a machine and the USPS is so understaffed that it's routine for some stamps not to get cancelled for parcels left in drop boxes. Someone who manages a post office branch is telling me this over Discord.

Human error is possible. However, i did a bit more looking to try & match up the stamps, as far as I can tell there's $3 of stamps on the parcel, unless there's multiple failures in the system which is of course possible with how incompetent they are, there's no way this parcel was delivered by the mail service.

It's claimed that it was delivered by a courier, but that raises more questions.

Who claimed this? The guberment is sure saying they were mailed. Why would someone put stamps on a courier delivered package?

CNN claims the parcel which was delivered to them was done so by courier. Says so in the article I linked. Someone needs to find that courier and apply the thumbtacks. This parcel was almost certainly hand delivered by someone who knows something. It didn't go through USPS, FedEx, or any of the usual mail/parcel services.

[The Romulan Republic]

What are you getting at, aerius? Because it sounds like you are implying that CNN/law enforcement are lying about the origin of the packages, without actually coming out and admitting that that is your argument.

[Sea Skimmer]

Human error is possible. However, i did a bit more looking to try & match up the stamps, as far as I can tell there's $3 of stamps on the parcel, unless there's multiple failures in the system which is of course possible with how incompetent they are, there's no way this parcel was delivered by the mail service.

Checking the postage and cancelling the stamp would be the exact same act. In fact the person I was talking to was very clear that this happens all the time. Nothing gets checked at the office because they don't have the manpower to care. It just gets delivered because that's a matter of federal law that it happen, and if they refuse it for lack of postage they gotta return to sender, which costs money and time. If they collect proper postage or not is not meanwhile is whim of the postal service.

CNN claims the parcel which was delivered to them was done so by courier. Says so in the article I linked. Someone needs to find that courier and apply the thumbtacks. This parcel was almost certainly hand delivered by someone who knows something. It didn't go through USPS, FedEx, or any of the usual mail/parcel services.

Article? That's a little blurb in a new feed that has 31 subsequent updates, some of which state the FBI said all of them were mailed. The media always reports tons of wrong information in it's by the minute updates when any kind of incident like this happens. The idea that the person put a bunch of stamps on courier packages is a lot more absurd then the post office being shorthanded, and would be a far stupider act on the part of the bomber.

[aerius]

What are you getting at, aerius? Because it sounds like you are implying that CNN/law enforcement are lying about the origin of the packages, without actually coming out and admitting that that is your argument.

Go fuck yourself you worthless twat. You obviously have nothing better to do than imply that I'm a Trump sympathizer/Putin apologist or whatever the fuck is your buzzword of the day.

All I'm saying is find that courier and question the shit out of him because he's a possible lead to figuring out who the fuck's doing this shit. The fact that you're trying to read some kind of hidden message into what I'm posting in clear fucking text just points to the fact that you have fucking mental issues. Either that or you're pursuing a vendetta against me, which is clearly against board rules. Either way, go fuck yourself.

[aerius]

Article? That's a little blurb in a new feed that has 31 subsequent updates, some of which state the FBI said all of them were mailed. The media always reports tons of wrong information in it's by the minute updates when any kind of incident like this happens. The idea that the person put a bunch of stamps on courier packages is a lot more absurd then the post office being shorthanded, and would be a far stupider act on the part of the bomber.

I just went back and took a look again, holy shit it's a mess now. Wish I'd taken a screencap when I posted it, it was a lot clearer earlier on in the day.

[The Romulan Republic]

What are you getting at, aerius? Because it sounds like you are implying that CNN/law enforcement are lying about the origin of the packages, without actually coming out and admitting that that is your argument.

Go fuck yourself you worthless twat. You obviously have nothing better to do than imply that I'm a Trump sympathizer/Putin apologist or whatever the fuck is your buzzword of the day.

I asked you to clarify your position, because you appeared to be implying that CNN's report was false, what with saying "CNN claims" and insisting that it is impossible that the bombs were delivered by mail, while also saying that it doesn't make sense that it was a courier. Now, theoretically its possible that you were simply unclear, or that I misread your posts. But rather than clarifying or defending your position, you respond with yet another deluge of personal abuse and misogynist insults.

As for my suggesting that you are a Trumper/Putin apologist... well, you're the one who brought it up here, not me, but if it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and quacks doubleplusgood duckspeak like a duck...

All I'm saying is find that courier and question the shit out of him because he's a possible lead to figuring out who the fuck's doing this shit.

No shit Sherlock. I'm sure the Feds are doing exactly that.

The fact that you're trying to read some kind of hidden message into what I'm posting in clear fucking text just points to the fact that you have fucking mental issues. Either that or you're pursuing a vendetta against me, which is clearly against board rules. Either way, go fuck yourself.

I'm going to say to you what I say to every other person who has ever insinuated that I am violating board rules in an effort to smear or intimidate me: Either put your money where your mouth is and report me, or shut up. That is all.

[The Romulan Republic]

Just hours after a massive, coordinated simultaneous bomb attack* on top political, media, and intelligence figures, Trump spoke at a rally, where he again attacked the media and claimed that people need to stop treating their opponents as morally deficient if the violence is going to stop (this from the man who called Democrats a violent mob who want criminals to enter the country, and once called President Obama "a bad or sick man"). In other words, he blamed the victim. The message is clear: blame the victims, and (implicitly) defend the attackers.

According to CNN (I'm watching Don Lemmon right now), there is also already a theory going around that the attacks were a false flag by Democrats to boost their support before the midterms.

Imagine if, after 9/11, Bush had come out and said that the actions of the US were responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Sure, some people might agree with that sentiment, but if the Commander in Chief of the United States had said that on September 10th., I'd bet that he would have been swiftly removed from office.

The Constitution defines Treason as "levying war against the United States, or offering aid and comfort to its enemies." Though I very much doubt that a legal case for Treason could be made against Trump, his attempts to blame the victims of a terrorist attack on American soil are certainly treasonous in spirit.


*For this reason, I think it very likely that this attack is being conducted by a group of multiple individuals.

[aerius]

Checking the postage and cancelling the stamp would be the exact same act. In fact the person I was talking to was very clear that this happens all the time. Nothing gets checked at the office because they don't have the manpower to care. It just gets delivered because that's a matter of federal law that it happen, and if they refuse it for lack of postage they gotta return to sender, which costs money and time. If they collect proper postage or not is not meanwhile is whim of the postal service.

Holy christ your postal system is even more broken than I thought it was. It was already bad back when I was working in Postal/Customs and dealing with the US side every day, but it sounds even worse now than it was back then.

[FireNexus]

CNN claims the parcel which was delivered to them was done so by courier. Says so in the article I linked. Someone needs to find that courier and apply the thumbtacks. This parcel was almost certainly hand delivered by someone who knows something. It didn't go through USPS, FedEx, or any of the usual mail/parcel services.

NYC has a lot of couriers who move things around the city by bike. Given that the Soros letter was hand delivered, I think it’s safe to say the bomber is based in it around New York, and likely have used one of those couriers. He probably had no idea he was hand delivering a bomb. But I bet the guy who handed it off has a Russian accent.

[The Jester]

Holy christ your postal system is even more broken than I thought it was. It was already bad back when I was working in Postal/Customs and dealing with the US side every day, but it sounds even worse now than it was back then.

Be kind. It's still not Italy.

[The Romulan Republic]

CNN claims the parcel which was delivered to them was done so by courier. Says so in the article I linked. Someone needs to find that courier and apply the thumbtacks. This parcel was almost certainly hand delivered by someone who knows something. It didn't go through USPS, FedEx, or any of the usual mail/parcel services.

NYC has a lot of couriers who move things around the city by bike. Given that the Soros letter was hand delivered, I think it’s safe to say the bomber is based in it around New York, and likely have used one of those couriers. He probably had no idea he was hand delivering a bomb. But I bet the guy who handed it off has a Russian accent.

It might surprise some to hear this, given my views on Russian interference, but I am inclined to think that this is a homegrown guy (or ring). If only because I suspect that the GRU could build (or buy) bombs that work.

[AniThyng]

CNN claims the parcel which was delivered to them was done so by courier. Says so in the article I linked. Someone needs to find that courier and apply the thumbtacks. This parcel was almost certainly hand delivered by someone who knows something. It didn't go through USPS, FedEx, or any of the usual mail/parcel services.

NYC has a lot of couriers who move things around the city by bike. Given that the Soros letter was hand delivered, I think it’s safe to say the bomber is based in it around New York, and likely have used one of those couriers. He probably had no idea he was hand delivering a bomb. But I bet the guy who handed it off has a Russian accent.

It might surprise some to hear this, given my views on Russian interference, but I am inclined to think that this is a homegrown guy (or ring). If only because I suspect that the GRU could build (or buy) bombs that work.

I mean if you go down the rabbit hole there's no reason the GRU needs the bombs to work, they merely need them to sow division.

[The Romulan Republic]

Yeah, but that's getting pretty speculative on no real evidence (unlike Russian election interference/collusion, which has a great deal of evidence behind it).

[Broomstick]

All I'm saying is find that courier and question the shit out of him because he's a possible lead to figuring out who the fuck's doing this shit.

You do realize that the average courier doesn't have a clue what's in the package he/she is delivering? They pick stuff up, take it to the destination, then on to the next package. The courier could give information on who ordered the delivery, but doesn't have to be in on the conspiracy if they're part of a third-party delivery service, like the bicycle couriers you see in big cities, anymore than the postal system needs to be in on the conspiracy.

[U.P. Cinnabar]

According to CNN (I'm watching Don Lemmon right now), there is also already a theory going around that the attacks were a false flag by Democrats to boost their support before the midterms.

That didn't take long for that to start circulating.