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Post by **Vympel** » 2003-03-30 09:03am

15 US soldiers injured by truck attack in Kuwait

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82592,00.html

theski · Post by **theski** » 2003-03-30 10:02am

4000 Arabs in Iraq for "Martydom" this can't be good!!http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... martyrs_dc

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-03-30 10:53am

US Marines have apparently opened fire on a group of refugees fleeing over a bridge at Nassiriya. The group was crossing a bridge vital to Coalition supply lines. At least 12 people were killed. (At least, the author of the article i'm reading right now said he had counted the bodies of 12 dead Iraqi civilians.)

Here is a quote from the article, which can be found at www.sunday-times.co.uk (Note that this quote is typed straight from the newspaper):

As I walked away, Lieutenant Matt Martin, whose third child, Isabella, was born while he was on board ship en route to the Gulf, appeared beside me.
"Did you see all that?" He asked, his eyes filled with tears. "Did you see that little baby girl? I carried her body and buried it as best I could, but I had no time. It really gets me to see children being killed like this, but we had no choice."

Axis Kast · Post by **Axis Kast** » 2003-03-30 11:26am

It's war. These things happen.

Keep in mind that our soldiers are now deathly afraid - and rightfull so - that some of these civilians might just be packing a bomb under their clothes.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-03-30 11:56am

Axis Kast wrote:It's war. These things happen.

Keep in mind that our soldiers are now deathly afraid - and rightfull so - that some of these civilians might just be packing a bomb under their clothes.

That's exactly what Hussein wants. He has annihilated the American wet-dream of happy Iraqi civilians crowding around smiling US soldiers as they hand out food packets and chocolate bars. Every incident of this nature will harden the Iraqis against the invaders, and strengthen support for Hussein.

Axis Kast · Post by **Axis Kast** » 2003-03-30 12:15pm

Or cost American and British lives on the ground.

You need to understand, Wong, that it's a case of "choose your poison." If we let too many refugees move by unchecked, Hussein will pack their numbers with suicide bombers and that will be the end of that.

What would you do?

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2003-03-30 01:28pm

Axis Kast wrote:It's war. These things happen.

Keep in mind that our soldiers are now deathly afraid - and rightfull so - that some of these civilians might just be packing a bomb under their clothes.

I recognise the inevitability of these occurances, but that doesn't make me any less saddened by the deaths of innocents. What saddens me almost as much is the fact the the marines didn't have a choice, like you said, any one of them could have been a suicide bomber....

Axis Kast · Post by **Axis Kast** » 2003-03-30 02:20pm

In this, I agree.

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2003-03-30 04:56pm

Two things, guys....

KEEP THE DEBATING IN THE DEBATE THREAD.

and

INLINE YOUR DAMN LINKS!

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2003-03-31 03:57am

Russian analyses, 28th March:
http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/ ... ru_014.htm

Latest:
http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/ ... ru_015.htm

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2003-03-31 05:42am

Baghdad will be near impossible to conquer:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 25,00.html

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-03-31 08:01am

http://www.news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm ... 03&tid=518

Baghdad assault held off for 35-40 days?

theski · Post by **theski** » 2003-03-31 08:52am

Peter Arnett, Fired Again.. First Cnn last Gulf war, now NBC.. Can't keep his ego in checkhttp://breakingnews.nypost.com/dynamic/ ... CTION=HOME

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-03-31 09:14am

That guy cannot keep his mouth shut, can he...

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-03-31 11:43am

probing around baghdad[/url]

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-03-31 11:44am

continued advances

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-03-31 01:33pm

BoredShirtless wrote:Baghdad will be near impossible to conquer:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 25,00.html

Hey look, that article forgot to mention MOSCOW in the Winter of 1941 and
Stalingrad in the Summer-Fall of 1942

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-03-31 03:23pm

marines advance to cheers

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2003-03-31 04:52pm

This is NOT good news...

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-03-31 04:58pm

Warspite wrote:This is NOT good news...

No, it's not, but it's actually predictable. The previous suicide attacks have made US soldiers nervous, so any vehicle that doesn't promptly stop as ordered is likely to come under attack.

Axis Kast · Post by **Axis Kast** » 2003-03-31 04:59pm

The Army Times recently reported that 9 Marines had been killed and 8 gone missing during an attempt to free American POWs on 23 March.

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1- ... 724520.php

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2003-03-31 05:12pm

Ted C wrote:No, it's not, but it's actually predictable. The previous suicide attacks have made US soldiers nervous, so any vehicle that doesn't promptly stop as ordered is likely to come under attack.

Quite true, but being itchy is playing right into Saddam's intents. (And yes, I fully understand what you're saying.)

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2003-03-31 07:16pm

Warspite wrote:This is NOT good news...

See my comment on that story in the News Debate thread.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-03-31 10:24pm

iraq supporting al queda

well, this is amusing.[/img]

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-04-01 04:12am

U.S. Tank Falls in Euphrates; Four Marines Dead

Updated 3:43 PM ET March 31, 2003

AS SAYLIYA CAMP, Qatar (Reuters) - A U.S. tank carrying four U.S. Marines plunged from a bridge into the Euphrates River last week after the driver was killed in combat, apparently causing the other three crewmen to drown, U.S. military officials said on Monday.

The incident occurred on March 27 near the town of Nassiriya in southern Iraq, but the tank and the dead Marines were not pulled from the river until Sunday, U.S. Central Command said in a statement from its battle headquarters in Qatar.

Central Command said the tank driver was shot and killed while crossing a bridge and the M1A1 tank toppled into the river, landing upside down.

The other three crew were believed to have drowned, it said.

The statement did not name the river, but U.S. military personnel near Nassiriya, which has been the scene of heavy fighting since early in the 12-day-old war, told Reuters it was the Euphrates.

They said the incident occurred during a heavy sandstorm.

The names of the Marines were being withheld pending notification of their families

http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e ... iraqtankdc

Keep it on the debate thread, or the M1 thread.