democratic socialism and capitalism

[Sam Or I]

Communism

Pronunciation: 'käm-y&-"ni-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: French communisme, from commun common
Date: 1840
1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2 capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R. b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d : communist systems collectively


Socialism

Pronunciation: 'sO-sh&-"li-z&m
Function: noun
Date: 1837
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done



According to Karl Marx's theory Socialism does lead to Facism. I personally think Marx is wrong about alot of stuff, including the whole communism theory, so take it for what its worth.

Just a question sorta off topic, why is Fascism considered part of the "right"? Does it not share alot of common beliefs with Socialism? I am taking this from the Nazi (National Socialist Germans Workers) party of course, which appears to be a combination of radical right views AND radical left view. The Nazi Party advocated alot of what appears to be in the original post. For example (In no order):

We demand that there shall be profit sharing in the great industries.

We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, immediate communalization of the large department stores and their lease at a low rate to small traders, and that the most careful consideration shall be shown to all small traders in purveying to the State, the provinces, or smaller communities.

We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have (hitherto) been amalgamated (into trusts).

All were part of the Nazi Parties agenda, most likely to eliminate the threat of a corperation challenging the power of the State. Just something that I have always wondered. Personally I don't think politics are 1 dimensional. Sorry back to the original topic.

[Stuart Mackey]

You mean no common standards and massive costs? How the fuck do you make an 'artisan style' computer motherboard?

Paisly board with mock wood colourd ISA slots and pink SIMM's ..oh yeah SLOT A!..in bright green!

[NecronLord]

You mean no common standards and massive costs? How the fuck do you make an 'artisan style' computer motherboard?

Paisly board with mock wood colourd ISA slots and pink SIMM's ..oh yeah SLOT A!..in bright green!

I was thinking about "humm I think I'll put this port on...." random location.

[Stuart Mackey]

You mean no common standards and massive costs? How the fuck do you make an 'artisan style' computer motherboard?

Paisly board with mock wood colourd ISA slots and pink SIMM's ..oh yeah SLOT A!..in bright green!

I was thinking about "humm I think I'll put this port on...." random location.

It should be done blindfolded after a minimum of half a joint.