TIL: Today I Learned... (Join in!)

[Crazedwraith]

Well that's depressing.

[J]

Apparently, you have to make the ice cream yourself. I could get behind the custard, coco pops and maybe the golden syrup ones though.

That's even worse! Ice cream flavours so revolting that you have to make them yourself!
What's next, a DIY excrement sandwich?

[Broomstick]

Pretty sure there's an on-line porn source for the sandwich - Rule 42 and all that.

[EnterpriseSovereign]

Pretty sure there's an on-line porn source for the sandwich - Rule 42 and all that.

You mean 2 girls 1 cup? Thank fuck I never saw that

[The_Saint]

Pretty sure there's an on-line porn source for the sandwich - Rule 42 and all that.

You mean 2 girls 1 cup? Thank fuck I never saw that

Pretty sure the >1hr film that the 2 girls 1 cup clip is from, is number 5 or 7 in a series.

So yea, there's plenty of material out there.



Today I (finally) learnt the difference between a mirrorless and DSLR camera. I mean, I knew the functional difference as it's right there in the name but I now know the ins and outs of the system.

[aerius]

Pretty sure there's an on-line porn source for the sandwich - Rule 42 and all that.

You mean 2 girls 1 cup? Thank fuck I never saw that

The actual name of the movie is Hungry Bitches. And I was paid by my government to watch it. It's not that bad.

[LadyTevar]

Actually, last night, but TIL coyotes do not bark, they yip and yowl and whine in the backyard as the dogs go nuts barking. I did not leave my bed because the sounds had me near-paralyzed, but I wish I had. It sounded like the coyote was defending itself, because I don't think it'd whine and yowl like that if it was the one winning the fight.

[EnterpriseSovereign]

Pretty sure there's an on-line porn source for the sandwich - Rule 42 and all that.

You mean 2 girls 1 cup? Thank fuck I never saw that

The actual name of the movie is Hungry Bitches. And I was paid by my government to watch it. It's not that bad.

Sounds like there's an interesting story in there I certainly wouldn't watch it for free I only know it by reputation and what I read on Wikipedia

TIL That 4K monitors are common, G-Sync monitors are less common, and even modestly sized 4K G-Sync monitors are really fucking rare.

[The_Saint]

TIL that I was supposed to collect the newspapers from the local newsagent this week for work. English department wasn't impressed. I wasn't impressed that no one told me.

TIL Last night I learned that Davinci Resolve has some really handy automatic colour grading features.

Recently I learned that a Google Community Manager does not actually have control of a Youtube Channel attached to the Google account even though that otherwise would seem to be the main use of a Community Manager.

[madd0c0t0r2]

TIL tampons are no-longer recommended first aid for gunshot wounds.

[EnterpriseSovereign]

Recently I learned that the Thoroughbred is an actual horse breed, and not just a word used to refer to any breed of purebred race horse, and that horse temperament was measured by terms like "hot-blood" and "cold-blood".

[Batman]

Wait Thoroughbred is an actual singular horse breed? I always understood it to just mean any purebred horse.

[EnterpriseSovereign]

Wait Thoroughbred is an actual singular horse breed? I always understood it to just mean any purebred horse.

So did I until I read it on Wikipedia. From the article:

The Thoroughbred is a horse breed best known for its use in horse racing. Although the word thoroughbred is sometimes used to refer to any breed of purebred horse, it technically refers only to the Thoroughbred breed. Thoroughbreds are considered "hot-blooded" horses that are known for their agility, speed, and spirit.

[Batman]

Until you posted it that was news to me too, though I knew of the hot blooded/cold-blooded thing (don't ask me where from probably some TV series or other) even though being mammals technically all horses are warm blooded.

[LadyTevar]

Recently I learned that the Thoroughbred is an actual horse breed, and not just a word used to refer to any breed of purebred race horse, and that horse temperament was measured by terms like "hot-blood" and "cold-blood".

Minor Lesson in Equines, from a former Horse-Crazed Teen:

Thoroughbreds are a actual breed, and the one you see in the major races like the Derbies. Some also do Dressage and Polo.
Waaaaay back in their mutual genepool you'll find the First Arabian/Oriental Horses imported to England. EVERY SINGLE THOROUGHBRED can be traced back to the foals from those THREE Arabian Studs, which were bred to native English mares. This, of course, has had drawbacks.
The article says: "Thoroughbred racehorses perform with maximum exertion, which has resulted in high accident rates and health problems such as bleeding from the lungs. Other health concerns include low fertility, abnormally small hearts, and a small hoof-to-body-mass ratio. There are several theories for the reasons behind the prevalence of accidents and health problems in the Thoroughbred breed, and research on the subject is ongoing."
Gee... EVERY SINGLE THOROUGHBRED is probably at most 6 degrees of consanguinity from each other. Probably less than 4 degrees, as breeders in the past literally bred half-siblings together. Nah, that *couldn't* be the reason they have horrible health problems to the point they can literally fall over dead if spooked.


Hot-blooded and Cold-blooded are old terms for the difference between a racehorse (Hot) and a drafthorse (Cold). It's really all bunk, based mostly on the idea that Hot-Blooded Horses are small, fast, agile, high-energy (high-strung) creatures, while Cold-Blooded Horses are large, calm, steady, slow-plodding, gentle-giant farm animals. Look at the size and attitude difference between an Arabian and a Clydesdale and you'll get the idea.
There is also the "Warm-Blood", which is nothing more than the offspring of a Hot with a Cold, many of which became breeds of their own. The Morgan Horse, the Quarter Horse, and most Ponies are considered "Warm-Bloods", and you'll see them used in Dressage, Show-jumping, Western Rodeos, etc.

[Broomstick]

Waaaaay back in their mutual genepool you'll find the First Arabian/Oriental Horses imported to England. EVERY SINGLE THOROUGHBRED can be traced back to the foals from those THREE Arabian Studs, which were bred to native English mares. This, of course, has had drawbacks.
The article says: "Thoroughbred racehorses perform with maximum exertion, which has resulted in high accident rates and health problems such as bleeding from the lungs. Other health concerns include low fertility, abnormally small hearts, and a small hoof-to-body-mass ratio. There are several theories for the reasons behind the prevalence of accidents and health problems in the Thoroughbred breed, and research on the subject is ongoing."
Gee... EVERY SINGLE THOROUGHBRED is probably at most 6 degrees of consanguinity from each other. Probably less than 4 degrees, as breeders in the past literally bred half-siblings together. Nah, that *couldn't* be the reason they have horrible health problems to the point they can literally fall over dead if spooked.

That, and a focus on just speed-speed-speed when breeding.

Secretariat was remarkable in that his dam and sire were about as far apart genetically as possible within the breed. He also had an abnormally LARGE heart for any horse, which may have been one reason for his amazing performance. I'm not sure it's even possible to find such separate lines within the breed anymore.

There is a requirement that to be a registered Thoroughbred a horse must have been conceived via natural intercourse. This was instituted to prevent even more extreme inbreeding. Having to transport either dam or sire for "servicing" limits how many foals a horse can father in the next generation vs. artificial insemination where potentially one stallion could father most of a generation.

Thoroughbreds suffer from some of the human-induced problems of extreme dog breeds - focusing on a very limited number of traits instead of taking the health of the whole horse into account. Don't get me wrong - Thoroughbreds can be healthy. Back when I rode/worked at a horse farm one of my favorite mounts was a retired Thoroughbred, a former racer and father of many polo ponies who lived into his mid-20's and didn't seem to have any health problems. Then again, he wasn't being asked to perform on the level of an Olympic athlete, either. That's another reason for injuries.

Personally, I think using some non-Thoroughbred horses to add to the breed gene pool would be a really good idea, but that's not how livestock breeds work. Choose minimally related animals that also share desirable traits.

Hot-blooded and Cold-blooded are old terms for the difference between a racehorse (Hot) and a drafthorse (Cold). It's really all bunk, based mostly on the idea that Hot-Blooded Horses are small, fast, agile, high-energy (high-strung) creatures, while Cold-Blooded Horses are large, calm, steady, slow-plodding, gentle-giant farm animals. Look at the size and attitude difference between an Arabian and a Clydesdale and you'll get the idea.

I think it may also be that "hot blood" horse breeds tended to originate in warmer parts of the world and the "cold blood" ones in cooler regions. But yes, a lot of that is temperament and an old way of referring to it. Think of how you might describe a person as "hot-blooded". Given the size and physical power of draft horses you really don't want one that's "high strung", anxious, easily startled, or anything other than calm.

[LadyTevar]

There is a requirement that to be a registered Thoroughbred a horse must have been conceived via natural intercourse. This was instituted to prevent even more extreme inbreeding. Having to transport either dam or sire for "servicing" limits how many foals a horse can father in the next generation vs. artificial insemination where potentially one stallion could father most of a generation.

I did not know that. I'd seen a show a long time back demonstrating breeding via Artificial Insemination. What weirded me out was after they confirmed the mare was pregnant, they flushed the embryo out and re-planted it into "brood mare" so not to 'ruin' the mother.
I have to wonder if Thoroughbred breeders also flush and replant embryos into more suitable brood mares.

Hot-blooded and Cold-blooded are old terms for the difference between a racehorse (Hot) and a drafthorse (Cold). It's really all bunk, based mostly on the idea that Hot-Blooded Horses are small, fast, agile, high-energy (high-strung) creatures, while Cold-Blooded Horses are large, calm, steady, slow-plodding, gentle-giant farm animals. Look at the size and attitude difference between an Arabian and a Clydesdale and you'll get the idea.

I think it may also be that "hot blood" horse breeds tended to originate in warmer parts of the world and the "cold blood" ones in cooler regions. But yes, a lot of that is temperament and an old way of referring to it. Think of how you might describe a person as "hot-blooded". Given the size and physical power of draft horses you really don't want one that's "high strung", anxious, easily startled, or anything other than calm.

I was going to suggest the same idea of location, but I wasn't sure if it was true.
However most Hot-blooded horses are from the Mediterranean or Central Asia areas (Arabians, Alkal Teke, or the extinct Turkoman which was part of the Thoroughbred genepool).

[EnterpriseSovereign]

I learned that was because I was wondering why race horses were so damn fragile, since it seemed to me that falling = death for a horse when it comes to jump races, as well as the incidence of non-fatal but still career-ending injuries.

For all that, for me I've heard the word 'Thoroughbred' more in an automotive context (Top Gear) than an equine one, referring to supercars.

[Broomstick]

There is a requirement that to be a registered Thoroughbred a horse must have been conceived via natural intercourse. This was instituted to prevent even more extreme inbreeding. Having to transport either dam or sire for "servicing" limits how many foals a horse can father in the next generation vs. artificial insemination where potentially one stallion could father most of a generation.

I did not know that. I'd seen a show a long time back demonstrating breeding via Artificial Insemination. What weirded me out was after they confirmed the mare was pregnant, they flushed the embryo out and re-planted it into "brood mare" so not to 'ruin' the mother.
I have to wonder if Thoroughbred breeders also flush and replant embryos into more suitable brood mares.

No, they don't do that if they want the resulting foal to be a registered Thoroughbred. The folks in charge of the breed are probably more stringent about "natural conception and birth" than the Catholic Church. No artificial insemination and no embryo transfer allowed.

With "live cover" a stallion is doing really, really good to sire 30 foals in a year. Over 20 years of being a stud our heroic stallion might sire 600 horses, which is still a lot of offspring from just one male. (Secretariat sired 663 offspring and it's safe to say his genes were in great demand. None of his sons had a distinguished career although apparently his daughters gave rise to some decently performing grandsons) With AI one stallion could, potentially, sire 600 or eve 6000 foals in just one year.

If you want to cross your other breed of mare with a Thoroughbred stallion then sure, you can use AI and all sorts of other things, it's just that the resulting horse will never be registered Thoroughbred.

[The Infidel]

Today I learned a lot about horses.

[Batman]

Today I learned a lot about horses.

Same here

[Broomstick]

I learned that was because I was wondering why race horses were so damn fragile, since it seemed to me that falling = death for a horse when it comes to jump races, as well as the incidence of non-fatal but still career-ending injuries.

Racing Thoroughbreds are exerting themselves at peak levels. Just as Olympic and professional level human athletes can be prone to injury and suffer severe injury more often than couch potatoes or even weekend warriors, professional racing horses are at greater risk due to the nature of what they do.

Likewise, horses in jumping competition are being asked to perform at a more extreme level than what they'd likely have encountered in the wild conditions of their ancestors. Wild horses do, of course, run at high speeds and leap obstacles. Sometimes they fall and are injured, but since the reason for their running is predators their end usually comes quickly after that. Because nature is a motherfucker at times and wolves and lions want to eat dinner, too. Wild horses don't have to run faster than any other horse in the world, they just have to run faster than the slowest member of their own herd.

Combine "demand peak performance from horse" with humans breeding for just speed and not overall health/robustness and you get animals that sure seem fragile.

During his Triple Crown run Secretariat was at one point clocked at 49 mph (because it happened in America) which is 78.8 kph. That is damn fast for an animal. With the stat that he weighed 544 kg and propelled himself that fast his legs and feet took a hell of a pounding and still stood up the stress. At that speed, though, it only takes one misstep for tragedy to occur. Lots of physical forces at play. If you watch a horse race past the initial finish you'll see that they do not try to stop those horses abruptly, they let them decelerate gradually to avoid injury.

There have been some recent advances in track surfaces that seem to be reducing the risk of lethal injury in racers, which is good. Track preparation is crucial for racing horses, and always has been. Improvements in training, diet, and medical management has also helped.

The typical horse runs at about 48 kph and with a LOT of training and building endurance might reach 65 kph for a brief period (maybe a kilometer, likely less). Compare to Secretariat's top speed (78 kph). Secretariat was, of course, an outlier - during his Kentucky Derby run he was famously still accelerating even as he crossed the finish line, meaning he never did get up to his full speed on that one. That's one reason his fastest speed ever was at the Belmont - it was a longer race, he had time to get up to full speed.

But he still doesn't hold the record for the absolute fastest horse ever - that goes to a filly named Winning Brew (also a Thoroughbred) who hit about 88 kph (55mph). Why didn't Winning Brew supplant Secretariat in racing history? Winning Brew couldn't keep that speed up over a longer distance. Secretariat wasn't quite as fast in a sprint but he ran longer distances. Actually, Secretariat never started a race in the top three, he just finished them better than anyone else. Lots of horses started faster than Secretariat, they just could not maintain the lead.

Secretariat's Belmont Stakes run is worth a watch - he blew the competition out of the water. Any other, more typical year, either the 2nd or 3rd place winner could have also been a Triple Crown Winner, they only look slow next to Secretariat. If you only ever watch one horse race in your entire life this is the one to watch. Heck, it's less than 2.5 minutes - go ahead. (alright, the entire video is slightly longer than that)

https://youtu.be/vfCMtaNiMDM

[muse]

Today I learned we are dangerously close to real life robot tentacle porn.

[The_Saint]

TIL .... some people thought a thoroughbred horse meant purebred.

Fun fact, a thoroughbred of today is almost nothing like a thoroughbred from 100-150 years ago in much the same way that olympic qualifying standards have drastically changed.

Sadly had a thoroughbred pass away late last year from a heart attack due to being hyped up and it was difficult to explain to the non horse people around at the time that that can happen.

[EnterpriseSovereign]

Isn't it great when single posts start fascinating discussions?

Today I learned we are dangerously close to real life robot tentacle porn.

I imagine those would be forever getting knotted up and needing to be manually untangled.

TIL the difference between baking soda and baking powder