Mozilla takes a new path.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-02 04:08pm

http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html

They're abandoning the monolithic NS Communicator-esque program and moving to smaller, sleeker and swifter programs (Phoenix, Thunderbird/Minotaur) instead.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-04-02 04:21pm

Interesting...

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-04-02 04:47pm

I think this is a good thing. Mozilla is getting bloated.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-04-02 05:11pm

Dalton wrote:I think this is a good thing. Mozilla is getting bloated.

Is getting bloated? It is bloated. It's been bloated since .8 when I first started using it. It's only now beginning to slim down...

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-02 05:13pm

Since 0.8? Hell, it was bloated when fricking Milestone 9 was released (I've been a Mozilla user for a loooong time).

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-04-02 06:39pm

You have to remember that I'm used to Netscape and IE

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-03 10:46am

Dalton wrote:You have to remember that I'm used to Netscape and IE

NS Communicator wasn't bloated?

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-04-03 03:00pm

phongn wrote:
Dalton wrote:You have to remember that I'm used to Netscape and IE
NS Communicator wasn't bloated?

No, it was, which is why Mozilla seemed like a relief.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-04-03 03:05pm

IE is bloated?
I find it to be rather slim

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-04-03 03:06pm

Ummmmm....what's Mozilla and I use IE almost exclusively. Have a feeling that this is PRECISELY what a internet newb would say.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-04-03 03:10pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:IE is bloated?
I find it to be rather slim

That's because the vast majority of the bloat in concealed in the Windows OS itself. Which is also why a browser crash can take out your entire system!

Speaking of 'Crash', I hope they fix the whole 'Java Kill Mozilla' issue. It happened an hour ago and it just happened again a minute ago. I AM MOTHERFUCKING PISSED! Not so much the inconvenience of restarting Moz, but it completely kills all of the cookies (which makes me have to re-sign in to everything, and worse, it marks EVERY thread here at SD read!)

EDIT: Come to think of it, they just need to get rid of Java wholesale. Buggy-ass shit!

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-04-03 03:11pm

Stravo wrote:Ummmmm....what's Mozilla and I use IE almost exclusively. Have a feeling that this is PRECISELY what a internet newb would say.

An internet browser, like IE...well maybe not, but nonetheless.

Other than they are probably a lot more helpful in telling true differences...since I use it only somewhat.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-04-03 03:13pm

Aww I like Mozilla as it is!

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-04-03 03:18pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:That's because the vast majority of the bloat in concealed in the Windows OS itself. Which is also why a browser crash can take out your entire system!

I've had a few crashes in XP over the last year, 2-4 I think, none of them brought down the system, ofcourse XP is protected against that.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2003-04-03 03:53pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm using a P266, and I like mozilla the way it is. Long startup time does not bother me.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-03 06:08pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
His Divine Shadow wrote:IE is bloated?
I find it to be rather slim
That's because the vast majority of the bloat in concealed in the Windows OS itself. Which is also why a browser crash can take out your entire system!

Which is why most people set IE windows to run in their own process rather than the global Windows one.

Speaking of 'Crash', I hope they fix the whole 'Java Kill Mozilla' issue. It happened an hour ago and it just happened again a minute ago. I AM MOTHERFUCKING PISSED! Not so much the inconvenience of restarting Moz, but it completely kills all of the cookies (which makes me have to re-sign in to everything, and worse, it marks EVERY thread here at SD read!)

Odd, I haven't had a JRE crash in a long time. What are you running?

EDIT: Come to think of it, they just need to get rid of Java wholesale. Buggy-ass shit!

You have a better alternative? Most of the Java issues are probably from poorly-coded applets, not a fault of Java itself. Do you bitch about C because Microsoff makes buggy products with it?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-04-03 06:09pm

Stravo wrote:Ummmmm....what's Mozilla and I use IE almost exclusively. Have a feeling that this is PRECISELY what a internet newb would say.

Mozilla is the basis behind the next generation versions of Netscape. It is an open-source application and it is generally quite excellent, though still has some major issues even as it approaches v1.4.

Many feel that it is superior to IE6.