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Re: Israel orders mass 'evacuation' from Northern Gaza, humanitarian crisis certain to ensue

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It's probably a moot question. Netanyahu is presumably unlikely to travel to any country willing to arrest him.
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Crazedwraith wrote: 2024-11-23 08:32am It's probably a moot question. Netanyahu is presumably unlikely to travel to any country willing to arrest him.
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LadyTevar wrote: 2024-11-22 04:39pm Who in any of those countries is actually going to have the balls to arrest the Leader of a Foreign Nation.
To be honest Tev, I find your phrasing kinda odd. It implies that it would take a lot of courage on the part of, say, Ireland's government to do so. Warrants like this have issues with enforcement since the court doesn't have an independent army, but I don't see much reason why any country outside of bombing range would need to be afraid of Israel's wrath.
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Ralin wrote: 2024-11-23 04:21pm
LadyTevar wrote: 2024-11-22 04:39pm Who in any of those countries is actually going to have the balls to arrest the Leader of a Foreign Nation.
To be honest Tev, I find your phrasing kinda odd. It implies that it would take a lot of courage on the part of, say, Ireland's government to do so. Warrants like this have issues with enforcement since the court doesn't have an independent army, but I don't see much reason why any country outside of bombing range would need to be afraid of Israel's wrath.

Well... first, you have the whole problem of "Arresting the Rightfully Elected Chosen Leader of a Foreign Nation", which means you have just created an International Incident between your nation and Israel, as well as probably the USofA acting as "big brother".

Second, you have the issue of arresting a JEWISH Leader, which gets you accused of Anti-Semitism and gets condemnation from anyone with connections to Israeli, the Jewish Nation, or whom are Zionists (See USA).

It's going to be a political international clusterfuck that might rival the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
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Well, he's only the lawfully elected Prime Minister until the next election, which is not guaranteed to go his way.
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LadyTevar wrote: 2024-11-23 05:18pm Second, you have the issue of arresting a JEWISH Leader, which gets you accused of Anti-Semitism and gets condemnation from anyone with connections to Israeli, the Jewish Nation, or whom are Zionists (See USA).

It's going to be a political international clusterfuck that might rival the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
If you think people who support the Jews are that kind of power bloc in the good ol' US-Of-A like that, I have to wonder if you've ever met a Jew. I dated one recently, and she most def did not feel like she was that kind of welcome here. I think most of the reason she even went out with me is because I fucking love punching a Nazi.

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LadyTevar wrote: 2024-11-23 05:18pm
Ralin wrote: 2024-11-23 04:21pm
LadyTevar wrote: 2024-11-22 04:39pm Who in any of those countries is actually going to have the balls to arrest the Leader of a Foreign Nation.
To be honest Tev, I find your phrasing kinda odd. It implies that it would take a lot of courage on the part of, say, Ireland's government to do so. Warrants like this have issues with enforcement since the court doesn't have an independent army, but I don't see much reason why any country outside of bombing range would need to be afraid of Israel's wrath.

Well... first, you have the whole problem of "Arresting the Rightfully Elected Chosen Leader of a Foreign Nation", which means you have just created an International Incident between your nation and Israel, as well as probably the USofA acting as "big brother".

Second, you have the issue of arresting a JEWISH Leader, which gets you accused of Anti-Semitism and gets condemnation from anyone with connections to Israeli, the Jewish Nation, or whom are Zionists (See USA).

It's going to be a political international clusterfuck that might rival the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
That's funny, since the Fatherland has no qualms about arresting Jews who oppose the Gaza Genocide.
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And right on cue, IDF fluffers start flinging shit like zoo monkeys. Sen. Tom Cotton (imagine Timothy McVeigh if he could've afforded tuition) just threatened to use force against the ICC, as he and other senators did against the ICJ a few months ago. Since Cotton is too busy calling for the mass murder of protesters to look at a map, someone should remind that racist little prick that the Hague in in the Netherlands, a member of NATO. Under the terms of the NATO treaty, the US is required to use force if any member state is attacked.

So if Netanyahoo gets busted, Tom Cotton wants the US to attack... the US! :wtf: :lol: :wanker:
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Raw Shark wrote: 2024-11-24 06:42am
LadyTevar wrote: 2024-11-23 05:18pm Second, you have the issue of arresting a JEWISH Leader, which gets you accused of Anti-Semitism and gets condemnation from anyone with connections to Israeli, the Jewish Nation, or whom are Zionists (See USA).

It's going to be a political international clusterfuck that might rival the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
If you think people who support the Jews are that kind of power bloc in the good ol' US-Of-A like that, I have to wonder if you've ever met a Jew. I dated one recently, and she most def did not feel like she was that kind of welcome here. I think most of the reason she even went out with me is because I fucking love punching a Nazi.
Also, a lot of the protests that have happened in the past year have had Jewish people declaring "not in our name."
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LadyTevar wrote: 2024-11-23 05:18pm
It's going to be a political international clusterfuck that might rival the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
Okay now that's just silly. The only country which has any chance of doing some sort of military intervention over Netanyahu being arrested in the US, and then that is far-fetched. No it would not be on par with assassination that immediately triggered armies marching.
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*even that is far-fetched
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Gandalf wrote: 2024-11-24 04:11pm
Raw Shark wrote: 2024-11-24 06:42am
LadyTevar wrote: 2024-11-23 05:18pm Second, you have the issue of arresting a JEWISH Leader, which gets you accused of Anti-Semitism and gets condemnation from anyone with connections to Israeli, the Jewish Nation, or whom are Zionists (See USA).

It's going to be a political international clusterfuck that might rival the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
If you think people who support the Jews are that kind of power bloc in the good ol' US-Of-A like that, I have to wonder if you've ever met a Jew. I dated one recently, and she most def did not feel like she was that kind of welcome here. I think most of the reason she even went out with me is because I fucking love punching a Nazi.
Also, a lot of the protests that have happened in the past year have had Jewish people declaring "not in our name."
One of the co-authors of the warrant for Bibi the Baby Butcher is himself an Israeli. American Jews oppose the slaughter in Gaza more than most other minority groups. For decades, the most strident opponents of Zionist Lebensraum have been American Jews like Noam Chomsky, Greg Grandin, Norman Finkelstein and European ones like Gabor Mate.

It's faux-Christian fundies who want the Palestinians exterminated to make way for more American and European squatters so the Little Lord Jesus can throw them into the lake of fire. In other words, they want western Jews to migrate to the Holy Land in the same way lions want zebras to migrate to the savanna.
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Elfdart wrote: 2024-12-01 07:34amIt's faux-Christian fundies who want the Palestinians exterminated to make way for more American and European squatters so the Little Lord Jesus can throw them into the lake of fire. In other words, they want western Jews to migrate to the Holy Land in the same way lions want zebras to migrate to the savanna.
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I mean, you actually think that the guy whose death inspired your religion was part of your religion? Jesus Christ. Literally and figuratively. If there's one thing I've had to confront in the last month, it's that more of my fellow Americans than I thought are dumber than two bags of shit. I'm not going to allege that this election was stolen. This is how a grown-ass adult accepts a defeat. That shitbird won it fair and square because my people are fucking idiots.

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Probably my favorite John Oliver bit went like this:

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Their ideas don't even make sense by their OWN rules.

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I won'T go so far as to say it won fair and square, but I Currently have to admit it won 'legally'.And climate change CAN'T destroy the world. It can merely render it uninhabitable for humans. ALDERAAN was destroyed . EARTH will still be here for species hopefully smarter than us to evolve on.
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Batman wrote: 2024-12-01 10:28pm I won'T go so far as to say it won fair and square, but I Currently have to admit it won 'legally'.And climate change CAN'T destroy the world. It can merely render it uninhabitable for humans. ALDERAAN was destroyed . EARTH will still be here for species hopefully smarter than us to evolve on.
That's fair. Maybe this series of events will be better for the other terrestrial animals.

I mean, even if we somehow managed to blow the whole fucking thing up, it'd probably pull itself back into a roughly spherical shape and reset because gravity. This is what passes for optimism for me right now.

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